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Ann.Cal
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ann.Cal wrote:
Diggs wrote:
Use the OS from here -

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=12454&prodSeriesId=439748&prodNameId=439749&swEnvOID=1058&swLang=13&mode=2&taskId=135&swItem=vc-51791-1

When you run this program just tell it to format your USB stick, not ISO or Deploy. Then boot your thin client from the USB stick. It sounds like your thin client could already be set to boot form USB which is what may be causing your boot problems when you have a USB device attached without an OS to boot from on it. If in doubt read the first page of this thread carefully especially about 2/3 of the way down the page where it talks about flashing the OS onto the thin client.



I try the link
This webpage is not found.

No webpage was found for the web address: ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp36001-36500/sp36064.exe

any otrer link to dowload

Thx for your help


the only way i get to the file was

using the link ftp://ftp.hp.com/pub/softpaq/sp36001-36500

and get to the file


clik 2 times and finaly get it to dwnload to my pc

thx for the help

Ann
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 3:09 pm    Post subject: I need hp t5710 256mb flash image already tweak and running Reply with quote

Hello i need 256mb flash image already tweak to run magic jack. I only need the 256mb flash for i only have 256mb flash.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:07 pm    Post subject: Re: I need hp t5710 256mb flash image already tweak and runn Reply with quote

kengarreth wrote:
Hello i need 256mb flash image already tweak to run magic jack. I only need the 256mb flash for i only have 256mb flash.


After magicJack's latest upgrade (or is that downgrade?) I don't believe this is possible. You will probably have to increase the size of your FLASH C: drive. to at least 512 MB.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 6:58 am    Post subject: MJ stopped working. Please help! Reply with quote

HP T5000
XPe Ver 2002 Service Pack 2
256MB RAM

I use this thin client as a dedicated machine to run MagicJack (MJ).

MJ was working fine until a couple of days ago. When I plug it in it seems to do the upgrade and initially was stopping saying "can't connect to internet".
But i can use (and yes it functions just fine) the same MJ from my win7 laptop that is also connected to the same router - thus it can't be a router (port) problem, correct?

Earlier at one point it did say not enough disk space; but that doesn't seem to happen any more.

No MJ Disks show up in explorer and when the shortcut for MJ on the desktop is clicked it starts to load, then stops and disappears.

Help!! I need to get this running on my thin client once again.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you check this "dialpad does not appear" thread, your problem "MAY" be lack of memory.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldtimercurt wrote:
If you check this "dialpad does not appear" thread, your problem "MAY" be lack of memory.

OTC


It's not usually memory that is the problem. Even after the latest upgrade, 256 MB of RAM memory is more than enough. It is the C: FLASH memory that is the problem and needs more than 256MB. You can also control what starts up very easily in RAM on a thin client by using Mike Lin's Startup Control Panel. It's only about 35 KB and is free.

http://www.mlin.net/StartupCPL.shtml

I've used the Startup Control Panel for years. Very small, simple yet effective.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This should be the 512MB C:/ flash drive for it:
http://ec.transcendusa.com/product/ItemDetail.asp?itemid=TS512MDOM44H-S
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:51 pm    Post subject: Not for beginners Reply with quote

These thin clients are not plug and play, and not for beginners to set up the magic jack upon. I have been using one for a couple of months now, t5700 with 256 for storage and ram. Lots of problems. Right now I am reinstalling the operating system again. The MJ program has been hanging right at the end, saying please wait, yet never loading the contacts. Put the MJ back into my desktop computer, works great! And even step one, on the thin client, reimaging the operating system, that is a problem too, windows starting up then just a blank blue screen with a large arrow, WTF? So now I am reinstalling it again. Definitely not plug and play more like plug fail fail pray fail and give up. This site is great, thanks for the help, but everyone keeps using the wrong terms for storage and ram. "I had to buy 512 HD space" to quote a recent post, but most posts tend to be confusing with everyone using ambigious terms--hey it's all flash and it's all memory, how about not using those words? Maybe block them like a$$ and etc are blocked. And several have said you need 512 to run MJ now, yet most posts have not been amended; is this true or not?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is the "storage" RAM that is your problem. Your storage is a type of memory known as FLASH RAM (which is your C:\ drive). It is a type of memory know as EEPROM (electrically erasable programmable read-only memory). It remembers what it's contents are when powered down (unlike the other type of memory in your thin client that is lost as soon as it is powered down). The FLASH memory needs to be more the 256 MB after MJ's last update. (512 MB is the next increment up.)

After you add the 512 MB FLASH and install the OS by booting from a USB memory stick per HP/Wyse, the thin client will truly be plug, play and forget. I run an HP t5710 with 512 RAM and 1 GB of FLASH. I added MS Windows firewall. It is set to reboot once a month just for good measure. I have not touched it for a very long time and MJ phone service is excellent.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diggs wrote:
It is the "storage" RAM that is your problem. Your storage is a type of memory known as FLASH RAM (which is your C:\ drive). It is a type of memory know as EEPROM (electrically erasable programmable read-only memory). It remembers what it's contents are when powered down (unlike the other type of memory in your thin client that is lost as soon as it is powered down). The FLASH memory needs to be more the 256 MB after MJ's last update. (512 MB is the next increment up.)

After you add the 512 MB FLASH and install the OS by booting from a USB memory stick per HP/Wyse, the thin client will truly be plug, play and forget. I run an HP t5710 with 512 RAM and 1 GB of FLASH. I added MS Windows firewall. It is set to reboot once a month just for good measure. I have not touched it for a very long time and MJ phone service is excellent.


OH don't I wish. Make me laugh more silly you. You still need the USB driver, it's not include in the OS image files. You have to find the file, USBAudio.driver.zip, it has 368 KB and why is it not included in the image file, I don't know. I guess Bill Gates has a law, thou shalt not install an operating system unless you spend the next three hours trying to discover the missing driver files. Yeah, I know I am the only one in the universe with this problem, cry me a river...

I have installed a 1 gig DOM and it keeps having problems starting up MJ, like it's grunting and groaning, totally illogical. It tries, then says out of virtual memory. Then it finally gets started up, but I cannot choose phone, it only works through the speakers. Because it did not install the drivers correctly when it ran out of virtual memory! Which is a phantom pain from DOS 1.0 back when the processors ran at 640K and the storage was 640K, in Bill Gates first attempt to confuse us, he is a great fan of the tower of babel. I have always wondered, if the first DOS was actually stolen from aliens, because it seems to still be there in every Billy Gates new operating system--they write millions of lines of code to make it work better and hide it, but deep under it all, you have this bit of magic code that can not be replaced or fixed, because no one really knows why it works. So try all you want to update the drivers on the MJ, windows says hey no way, you already got plenty of drivers no can do fail. It's a big game. You have to now delete the MJ files, reboot, try again. It eventually realizes you are not going to give up and go back to paying $89 a month for phone service, and asks if you want to install a new device. You lead it by the broken little client hand to where you have the files on a jump drive, and magically it installs them, there are about 8 or more, you will see it happening--if it just flicks and says DONE like your teenager when you ask if they cleaned their bathroom, no way it's not done. Then, reboot. After 3 or 4 more reboots, MJ illogically works! See, plug and play! If this thing stops working in the next six months I'm taking a hammer to it!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 2:36 pm    Post subject: Upgrade needed for RAM Reply with quote

Diggs wrote:
It is the "storage" RAM that is your problem. Your storage is a type of memory known as FLASH RAM (which is your C:\ drive). It is a type of memory know as EEPROM (electrically erasable programmable read-only memory). It remembers what it's contents are when powered down (unlike the other type of memory in your thin client that is lost as soon as it is powered down). The FLASH memory needs to be more the 256 MB after MJ's last update. (512 MB is the next increment up.)

After you add the 512 MB FLASH and install the OS by booting from a USB memory stick per HP/Wyse, the thin client will truly be plug, play and forget. I run an HP t5710 with 512 RAM and 1 GB of FLASH. I added MS Windows firewall. It is set to reboot once a month just for good measure. I have not touched it for a very long time and MJ phone service is excellent.


If you want plug and play, or just play no problems, you need 512 RAM MEMORY in addition to 512 flash STORAGE DOM (why don't we just say Transcend Push-on memory module? ) Go ahead get the one gig DOM for $5 more.
I have been running one gig FLASH STORAGE DOM for a week successfully. But now I am getting out of memory shutting down the program errors. 256 memory is not working--yes I have deleted all programs possible.
Fortunately I have unlimited time to work on this problem, unlike most of you. If you are buying a TC I would get one from the guys on ebay that guarantee it will work with MJ and then hold his feet to the fire when it doesn't work. So far I have bought a TC 5100 $50, DOM $28, and a larger power supply $18 not needed it worked find on 1 amp but posts here indicated I needed the 3.3 amp. Due to uncertainty with software upgrades graciously given randomly by the MJ gods, if you have problems you should upgrade a level above what works today.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just thought I'd add in here that I found the 1GB Transcend flash DOM for a cheaper price than transcend.com - after doing a lot of looking around!

I just ordered one from Memory.com at this link:

http://www.memory.com/ts1gdom44h-s.html

It was $15.70 with free shipping and no tax. The company is based in Texas so I suppose there isn't any tax in the other 49 states. Be sure to select the "free shipping" option on the checkout page before submitting the order, because it defaults to FedEx ground shipping, which is expensive (almost $7, in my case).

(note: I am not connected to memory.com in any manner, just thought I'd pass this on since I couldn't find a lower price anywhere)

I suspect they'll use USPS for shipping since the module is small and flat, in their terms it states they may choose different methods of shipping for the free shipping orders. I have no idea how long it'll take to receive the package. Meanwhile, MJ is running on my home PC.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Got my cf2ide card and cable. Connected my 4gb hitachi microdrive. Bios recognized correct size of flash disk. After installed xpe from HP, it would not log in says something like can not accuratel verify something and keeps giving the same message. Went back to check asset tag it was blanked. Made another flash drive with full xp pro, but the installation stopped at install devices or drivers when the screen says 34 min remaining. While searching an anwser, put back orginal 256mb flash and MJ. Have not tried antiwpa but wondering, does xpe allows safemode? If yes, that mode hooks up usb? As I am away from my t5710, not able to try if safemode is available. What is the easiest way to load xpe to my 4gb microdrive? VaHam's pdf instruction is very nice but it does not mention this unable to login issue. Any suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Roundabout wrote:
I just thought I'd add in here that I found the 1GB Transcend flash DOM for a cheaper price than transcend.com - after doing a lot of looking around!

I just ordered one from Memory.com at this link:

http://www.memory.com/ts1gdom44h-s.html

It was $15.70 with free shipping and no tax. The company is based in Texas so I suppose there isn't any tax in the other 49 states. Be sure to select the "free shipping" option on the checkout page before submitting the order, because it defaults to FedEx ground shipping, which is expensive (almost $7, in my case).

(note: I am not connected to memory.com in any manner, just thought I'd pass this on since I couldn't find a lower price anywhere)



WOW! Very Happy That's a helluva great price. Thanks for sharing that Roundabout!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

XPe from HP for many of their thin clients will fail to install if the C: FLASH drive is bigger than 1 GB. This issue is covered somewhere in this thread I believe. There may be a work around but I don't know of it.

You should be able to install the full edition of XP without any problems.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

V-Man wrote:
Roundabout wrote:
I just thought I'd add in here that I found the 1GB Transcend flash DOM for a cheaper price than transcend.com - after doing a lot of looking around!

I just ordered one from Memory.com at this link:

http://www.memory.com/ts1gdom44h-s.html

It was $15.70 with free shipping and no tax. The company is based in Texas so I suppose there isn't any tax in the other 49 states. Be sure to select the "free shipping" option on the checkout page before submitting the order, because it defaults to FedEx ground shipping, which is expensive (almost $7, in my case).

(note: I am not connected to memory.com in any manner, just thought I'd pass this on since I couldn't find a lower price anywhere)



WOW! Very Happy That's a helluva great price. Thanks for sharing that Roundabout!


Glad to help. I'll be waiting for it to come (hopefully soon). I haven't opened my TC (t5710) since I got it a couple of years ago. Now that it has to be updated, I figured I may as well have a larger DOM to avert any future SNAFU's from MJ updates. Smile)
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 1:33 pm    Post subject: Which Compact flash to use? Guru's, I'm listening. Reply with quote

New to this thin client business and I can feal my mind expanding faster than the Universe. I installed the 1gb ddr So Dimm. Ordered two female to female 6" IDE cables, On my desk sits the CF adaptor that i purcased like the one mentioned in this thread from hong kong i think but I'm paralized with indecision when it comes to the compact flash can I use an 8 GB what about speed are there limitations I was considering a 8 to 64GB transcend @ 600x but will I be able to utilize that much speed? Trancend tech support said thin client wouldnt accept anything over 2GB, is this so? Is there a work around? I want to create something outragios in that I've built a moster of a P.C. and have run out of things to spend money on it and took up this project. I want to make this thing as outragios as it can be to serve not only as magic jack but, other things I've seen in several diffrent blogs. I'm interested in your experince and accumulated knowledge.

Thanks,
Paul Buck

Running a Pissed off! 1090T on Asus Crosshair Formula IV, 16GB Corsair XMF Ram, Coolit Systems liquid cooled Processor with 2 Excalibur fans in push pull configuration. GTX480 video card, Crucial Crucial 256GB SSD 1GB WD Cavier Black, Antec 1200 watt PSU Plextor Blue Ray Burner, AFT PRO-55U card reader Asus ROG Overclocking Station. All housed in a Silverstone Raven RVO1. 7.6 sec boot.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 3:10 pm    Post subject: 1 GB PC2700 DDR 333MHZ on a t5710 1.2Ghz thin client Reply with quote

I just read somewhere in this thread that the t5710 wont accept a 1 ghz ram does this still hold true? Is there a work around, bumed cuz I already bought it. is there anything bigger than 512 I can use that will work.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 4:23 pm    Post subject: Re: 1 GB PC2700 DDR 333MHZ on a t5710 1.2Ghz thin client Reply with quote

Paul Buck wrote:
I just read somewhere in this thread that the t5710 wont accept a 1 ghz ram does this still hold true? Is there a work around, bumed cuz I already bought it. is there anything bigger than 512 I can use that will work.


I didn't know that to be an issue. Although I run 512 in mine, it can't be the form factor as the 1 GB memory chip is the same identical size as the 512 MB. Does the OS fail to install or what keeps it from working? I thought 1 GB/1 GB units were common.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 7:58 pm    Post subject: To Quote Stroths; Reply with quote

"RAM
The t5700/t5710 series runs on 200pin PC2700 DDR RAM. It has a single slot which will take up to 512mb RAM officially. I have personally tried a 1GB module which would boot to the HP BIOS logo and freeze.
(NOTE: 8 or 16 MB of system RAM is reserved for processor usage.) 256mb is perfectly adequate for running the MagicJack, but 512mb will allow the system to be a bit more responsive and less likely to have performance issues.
- VaHam suggests these http://www.pcmemorystore.com/HP_Compaq-Thin_Client_Series-T5710-ram.htm - Current price $25.75 + shipping. They are verified to work on the t5700 series.
- I bought a pair of these (1 for each of my thin clients) Samsung 512MB PC2700 DDR from a seller on eBay for about $18.50 shipped each and they work fine in my t5710 and t5700.
If you want to buy from a well known store then go with pcmemorystore. If you want to save a few bucks, go with mine or a similar one on ebay."

Now I'm not sure whether it's system limitations or the model or the brand of ram that was incompatable will have to wait for an answer from one of the resident geniuses.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:01 am    Post subject: Stroths 1.2 Custom Software Reply with quote

I have a TC 75710 800Mhz 265/256. I am about to upgrade to 1Gb/512 does anyone know if stroths 1.2 will work on my system since it it 800Mhz and not a 1.2Ghz.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I BOUGHT ONE ON EBAY I THINK ITS MANUFACTURED BY TRUMP heres a link to the seller it works on my T5710 1.2ghz
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330489149900&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VaHam wrote:
Creating Your Own Flash Image

There is a utility in control panel to do this but I was never able to get it to work correctly.



The utility in the control panel DOES work and i found out after playing with the boot order in the bios. you MUST set the usb to boot first and then the ata flash drive. Boot up the computer without a flash drive plugged into the usb port, then go into the control panel in windows and select thin client imaging tool and follow the directions on screen. once selecting the usb drive
it will restart itself and then boot into the same blue screen that you normally see when reflashing the unit, except it states that its copying the flash image to your usb drive.

just thought id post this bit of helpfull info for anyone wanting to make their own flash image they can easily install on multiple machines.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:13 pm    Post subject: My recent upgrade with 4gb microdrive and tip Reply with quote

Got a T5710 from CL with 256/256mb of flash/memory right after the latest block from MJ to get rid of ATA. Was able to delete a lot of unused files to make it work. Since I have a 4gb hitachi micro drive taken out from my palm lifedrive, after read this thread, bought an adaptor and a cable, the upgrade was a success. Recently, got a 512mb memory chip out of the bay. After put it in I decided to reload the xpe. It was a night mare I had to admit. After few try and err, finally made it work.

Here is some tip may be of interest for those having similar issues.

1. Restore official image by following the instructions at the begining of this thread. If you do have similar issue like me that a message indicates that somethinglike can not accurately verify the licence, you need the following steps.

2. Boot into safe mode(FCool. Log into using Administrator/Administrator (hold shift). Update microdrive by following the instrctions in this thread by VaHam, then shutdown.

3. With the flash drive you used to restore xpe, put some utilities for dos in it. You will need diskgen, pmagic to fix partition, ghost to make backup. Reboot from flash drive. Use pmagic to do the partition. It seems the primary partition can not be too big. Less than 1gb seems work.

4. It should work after the partition job is done. Tweak the system if you want and reboot into the usb flash drive. Run ghost to make an backup image of your disk. Save it to the same flash drive.

You are done. The ghost image makes restore like a breeze.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 12:27 pm    Post subject: Hello,Stroths Reply with quote

I can't download the programs from megaupload or rapid share these sites show the programs but I cannot click on them.Am I supposed to buy something from these people?I thought this was freeware?

Ed
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am sorry if my question that not seem to be too advanced or lacks the basics. What is meant by thin client? Any help would be really appreciated.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A search for thin client might lead you to this http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/hp-thin-client-and-magic-jack-t685.html among others.

Google gave me this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thin_client

Message is a little effort goes a long way.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 1:50 pm    Post subject: Problem writing the img file Reply with quote

Hi guys, i have a problem with t5700, when i try to write the flash.img , it tells me :
"The system was not shipped with the image OS "

I upload a screen shot here:


Uploaded with ImageShack.us

any ideas ?

Thank You !
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It sounds like you may have the wrong OS. Each HP thin client has a specific version. Yours should be here -

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareIndex.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=379363&prodSeriesId=339208&swLang=8&taskId=135&swEnvOID=1058
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Diggs, thanks for the quick replay, i already try this, and with an older version to, but the same problem, the system was with shipped with Windows xPE I'm 100% shore, but i erase the flash and put linux... and now when i try to put the image back I can't Sad

Any ideas ?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2012 4:44 pm    Post subject: HP Compaq T5700 Thin Client 1G 192/256 XPe/IE US T5000 Reply with quote

Hi, Evey one Just got a
HP Compaq T5700 Thin Client 1G 192/256 XPe/IE US T5000
I want to reinstall the Win XPe
Can someone tell me which exact file do i dnld from HP site .
Thanks Janet
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That would be here -

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=0&prodSeriesId=339208&prodNameId=379363&swEnvOID=1058&swLang=8&mode=2&taskId=135&swItem=PSG_I22384-106947
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i got the same unit. i upgraded the flash to a 2gb Transcend CF model TS2GCF133 and i am using with an IDE adapter. It works ok. I can see it in BIOS as primary IDE i can flash it with the image from HP but after it loads up, right before logging in it gives me this error about license.
What can i do? what are the steps?

... I made sure windows sees my Cf as a fixed drive .. and still didn't work
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You upgraded the flash but what about the RAM? 192 is not enough which is stated in "system requirements" on the link above.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have 256 Megs of RAM. I understand that stroths version is not working on 256. My problem becomes bigger when i tried to flash it using an HP release. Everything flashes ok ... boots up... but it doesn't pass the license screen. There is an error that won't allow me to login to windows. I can login into safe mode WITHOUT networking to make some changes. as soon as i enable networking i get the same license error.
Any ideas? Thanks
Diggs wrote:
You upgraded the flash but what about the RAM? 192 is not enough which is stated in "system requirements" on the link above.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:40 am    Post subject: T5730 Windows XP Professional Drivers NEEDED! Reply with quote

I installed a 40gb 2.5 hard drive w/ 44pin ribbon in my t5730 and installed Windows XP Professional SP3. Everything is working except there are two devices in the device manager. The "SM Bus Controller" and The "Video Controller (VGA Compatible)". I know there's got to be something out there that will work, I just can't find it. Please Help!
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:07 pm    Post subject: T5710 800/512/256 XP Pro SP3 Drivers? Reply with quote

@rbentley42 - good question. Been trawling this & other forums for ages looking for the answer

Picked up 2x T5710 800/512/256, awaiting IDE-CF Adapter from China, in the meantime decided to put a 40GB HDD in the second and installed XP Pro SP3, but for the life of me can't find a handful of drivers:
WLAN
VGA
Multimedia Audio
& a couple of others I can't remember right now

Put the latest XPe softpaq from HP on the second and all fine with relevant drivers etc, but not sure how, or if, am able to extract drivers from that ISO/disk image

So where has anyone else found drivers for a standard (or lite) version of XP install?
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:30 am    Post subject: Extracting Drivers-RESOLVED Reply with quote

@ rbentley42 & others

After making this post, had a think & although don't know how to extract drivers from an iso image I realised as I have 2 units I could extract the drivers from one to transfer onto another - if you only have one unit eg HDD with XP full version on, then simply put the original DOM in with XPe, extract the drivers, save the extracted drivers to a USB flash drive, swap the DOM & HDD back over, then restore the drivers you saved

This is made very easy by using Driver Magician, can be found here:
http://isohunt.com/torrents/?ihq=driver+magician

Install the program
When running the program, the default view is non-Microsoft drivers only, but you can change that to view ALL drivers by selecting from the text menu:
Driver Backup > Search All Drivers

This then shows ALL drivers on the system.
Select All (bottom right), then Start Backup & you will be prompted to select where to save the Drivers Backup folder. Select the USB flash drive

Once this is done, you can then power off, swap the DOM back over with your HDD

Install Driver Magician onto HDD
Run the program, select 'Restore Drivers' and then navigate to the USB flash drive folder where you saved the drivers backup

Once this is done, all should be good and your new XP installation will have all the relevant drivers

i have had a lot of success with this and it is a very easy process

NB. As I downloaded this program as a torrent, my security said it was an infected file, I chose to ignore this as most torrents I get it states the same - have left the program on and am not getting any issues

If you are unsure either:
A - don't download the program. or
B download, use, then uninstall

Regards
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just bought a T5720 512/512 and I had a couple of questions,

1. Is there a way to prevent MagicJack from automatically running an update? My fear is that my 88mg of free space might not be able to handle it.

2. I notices that when I unplug the unit and plug it back it, it doesn't always respond to the power buttone to turn it on. It seems like I have to keep it unplugged for a but of time any one else notice this?

3. Is there a setting in the BIOS that I need to set to make sure this thing powers back on if the power is interrupted?



Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello.

http://gasnik.pl/tmp/port.PNG

For what is this connector? I have it on my T5700. I can't find the description in manual.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been following the Thin Client usage for MJ. I have several of these and have successfully upgraded two TC's to run MJ...one with a larger solid state disk and another with a 6 gig thumbdrive. One of the TC's also runs Internet Radio and the output goes to a Ramseys FM25B broadcaster for my whole house usage.

If anyone knowledgeable is still following this thread, what ports/programs do you have opened on your security for just the MJ to operate? What services do you have enabled/disabled?

I think it is SO cool to use the TC with the USB MJ! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not knowledgeable to much of a degree, but have been using MJ on a Wyse TC for 2.5 yrs. Fabulous call quality, virtually no issues.

I recall setting up my modem with two ports specified for MJ, but I don't recall which ones, and I'm not home to check just now. I seem to recall MJ themselves provided the port info on their website. Other than that, I have FBWF on the Wyse, but no other active security beyond what a basic router setup provides.

Since cheap thin clients became more than capable of handling the current MJ devices, this forum has seen a big drop in interest.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spoolin01 wrote:
I'm not knowledgeable to much of a degree, but have been using MJ on a Wyse TC for 2.5 yrs. Fabulous call quality, virtually no issues.

I recall setting up my modem with two ports specified for MJ, but I don't recall which ones, and I'm not home to check just now. I seem to recall MJ themselves provided the port info on their website. Other than that, I have FBWF on the Wyse, but no other active security beyond what a basic router setup provides.

Since cheap thin clients became more than capable of handling the current MJ devices, this forum has seen a big drop in interest.
I do not have great call quality...I have a lot of echo issues. I've tried many different solutions but they are still there. That's one reason why I was wondering about the port setup. Maybe my Internet speed is an issue, but most things are pretty fast.

Also, which cheap TC devices are you referring to?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I've had call quality issues related to my hardware, it's always been stuttering - holes in the stream. In 2011 when I started with MJ, the sub-$75 thin clients were VIA C3 or AMD Geode CPUs at sub-1GHz, often with 512MB or less flash and 512MB or less RAM, and the MJ dongles and software were evolving from more primitive levels as well. This forum was popular for the tweaks that helped those marginal components come together. With the subsequent VIA C7 and 1GHz AMD Sempron models, the XPe versions typically had the MJ-adequate minimum 512MB of flash and RAM, and I think the hardware requirement issues became a past matter. MJ came out with the + at about that time, and that may have also been why the TC interest dwindled. For awhile now you can get a Wyse V90L/V90LE (C7) and the HP T5730 (Sempron) for $25 now on eBay and the better Wyse C90LE (C7) or HP T5740 (Atom) for $50 or so. I have a 4th Gen dongle on a C90LEW. I've only once seen a problem with it in more than two years, and that was recently when I downloaded a torrent that hogged all my network bandwidth. I have medium level DSL service through ATT, but don't do much that uses network bandwidth, so I can't speak to that factor, aside from the extreme torrent experience.

I'm not savvy enough to speculate about the echo you get, are you running on a TC?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

spoolin01 wrote:
...are you running on a TC?
Yes. 1 Ghz HP w/512 and a way-over-sized 6 GB thumb drive. Took me three weeks to figure out how to adapt the drive to the TC. I have forgotten how I did it!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, I just tested it with a friend about 400 miles from here. It only echoes when the speakerphone is on! As I switched between speaker, the echo and "stuttering" followed the speaker! I am gonna gamble that is the issue. Maybe a test further away would be in order?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know how to set up the Sygate firewall for MJ?

That is the source of my echo.

When I disable it, the MJ works perfectly.

I have added the MJ files to the advance rules but it would still echo.

Maybe there is something else???
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2014 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does anyone know how to properly set up the Sygate firewall for MJ?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FlaTC wrote:
Does anyone know how to properly set up the Sygate firewall for MJ?
Any responses out there?
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