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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:03 am    Post subject: Run As A Service?

Is this is possible?
Seems it would be nice to not have to be logged on, just have the computer on with MJ connected.

I guess on the old forums there were directions, but that was before my MJ time.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject:

This is c/p from old forum...good luck




RUN MJ AS SERVICE
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mackgriggs



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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject:

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Ok....got past that error with the help of this page ->

support dot microsoft dot com/kb/259733

I went to the services tab, then magicjack service, then went to the log on tab...then changed it to "log on as: Local system account" instead, and it works fine! Not sure if that is ideal or not with security?

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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject:

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Lets just say for the sake of this discussion that the user account as opposed to "Local System" is more in line with recommended "best practices".

I think that the reason your service originally failed is because it probably has a blank password value. Try adding the password for user "magicjack" and see if that solves the logon issue. User "magicjack" should also have the "Logon as Service" privilege but that usually occurs automatically when you add the password using the services snap-in.

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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 7:47 pm Post subject:

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Ok! Got everything to work now. Thank you to everyone who has collaborated on this project. Now magicjack runs as a service, is completely invisible, starts up automatically on boot, and I don't need fast-user switching enabled, thus it takes up no memory caused by virtual desktop programs or autosizer, and has 0 focus problems. Here is my current step by step to get this setup ->

1. Download rktools.exe from here -> www dot microsoft dot com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9d467a69-57ff-4ae7-96ee-b18c4790cffd&displaylang=en

2. Extract it.

3. Create a user account named "magicjack", temporarily assign admin privilege. Also create a password for this account.

4. Login as “magicjack”, and install the magicjack under this profile.

5. Install the magicjack as a service, using the tutorial here ->

support dot microsoft dot com/kb/137890

After you create the service, if you export the registry value from regedt32.exe, it should look similar to this ->



Code:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\magicJack]
"Type"=dword:00000010
"Start"=dword:00000002
"ErrorControl"=dword:00000001
"ImagePath"=hex(2):63,00,3a,00,5c,00,50,00,72,00,6f,00,67,00,72,00,61,00,6d,00,\
20,00,46,00,69,00,6c,00,65,00,73,00,5c,00,57,00,69,00,6e,00,64,00,6f,00,77,\
00,73,00,20,00,52,00,65,00,73,00,6f,00,75,00,72,00,63,00,65,00,20,00,4b,00,\
69,00,74,00,73,00,5c,00,54,00,6f,00,6f,00,6c,00,73,00,5c,00,73,00,72,00,76,\
00,61,00,6e,00,79,00,2e,00,65,00,78,00,65,00,00,00
"DisplayName"="magicJack"
"ObjectName"=".\\magicjack"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\magicJack\Enum]
"Count"=dword:00000001
"NextInstance"=dword:00000001
"0"="Root\\LEGACY_LINE1\\0000"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\magicJack\Parameters]
"Application"="c:\\Documents and Settings\\magicjack\\Application Data\\mjusbsp\\magicjackloader.exe"


Note: the ImagePath string value is really something like "c:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\Tools\srvany.exe"

6. Delete the two cdloader entries for MagicJack in the registry. Using regedt32.exe, logging in from both of your user accounts, delete this entry from ->

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

7. Change the magicjack user account to be a user account instead of an admin account.

8. Enjoy!

Notes: Now, when I did this the magicjack service still wouldn't start, so I went to Control Panel->Administrative Tools->Services->MagicJack and tried to start the service from there, but I got this error ->

"Could not start the service on Local Computer. Error 1069: The service
did not start due to a logon failure"

So, I went to the log on tab (still in the magic jack service tab) and put in the password, and everything works beautifully!

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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:28 pm Post subject:

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Glad to here of your success. I believe this solves many problems for many people. In my case, I have 4 kids that share a single "community" computer as well as the MJ phone line. At first, getting the MJ was far more trouble than it was worth. My biggest problem was with the older kids sabotaging the softphone so the younger kids couldn't use it. The second problem had to do with punishment, if I revoked someone's phone privilege, they figured out they could just delete the call log and I would never know any better. Well, now that it runs as a service I was able to easily "hide" the call log so they can't find it in order to delete it. The MJ always works and my house is so much more peaceful now!

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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:09 pm Post subject:

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Frank Zappa wrote:
Glad to here of your success. I believe this solves many problems for many people. In my case, I have 4 kids that share a single "community" computer as well as the MJ phone line. At first, getting the MJ was far more trouble than it was worth. My biggest problem was with the older kids sabotaging the softphone so the younger kids couldn't use it. The second problem had to do with punishment, if I revoked someone's phone privilege, they figured out they could just delete the call log and I would never know any better. Well, now that it runs as a service I was able to easily "hide" the call log so they can't find it in order to delete it. The MJ always works and my house is so much more peaceful now!


That will work until one of them finds out how to hack the passwords....

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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 9:39 pm Post subject:

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That will work until one of them finds out how to hack the passwords....


Taking inventory here, 27 years of hands-on computer experience, a BSEE from Texas Tech University, an MSCS from the University of California at San Diego; I should have the advantage for at least another week or two, hopefully!

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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:17 pm Post subject:

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Frank Zappa wrote:
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That will work until one of them finds out how to hack the passwords....


Taking inventory here, 27 years of hands-on computer experience, a BSEE from Texas Tech University, an MSCS from the University of California at San Diego; I should have the advantage for at least another week or two, hopefully!


But children have almost unlimited time to solve a problem and a huge peer network of unindited co-conspirators. A week is probably a reasonably good guess.

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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:50 pm Post subject:

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But children have almost unlimited time to solve a problem and a huge peer network of unindited co-conspirators. A week is probably a reasonably good guess.


Now , after reading your commentary; I worry I have a false sense of security.

I will create an SSL VPN socket to a secure, off-site data vault and export the call log every 15 seconds. Meanwhile, that should buy time while I develop a truly sinister, permanent solution.

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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:05 pm Post subject:

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Frank Zappa wrote:
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But children have almost unlimited time to solve a problem and a huge peer network of unindited co-conspirators. A week is probably a reasonably good guess.


Now , after reading your commentary; I worry I have a false sense of security.

I will create an SSL VPN socket to a secure, off-site data vault and export the call log every 15 seconds. Meanwhile, that should buy time while I develop a truly sinister, permanent solution.


If you are lucky they will not develop an interest in how computers work and all will be well.

When I run into someone who is having all kinds of computer problems I suggest that they call the local Junior High School and hire the local computer wizard.

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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:13 pm Post subject:

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When I run into someone who is having all kinds of computer problems I suggest that they call the local Junior High School and hire the local computer wizard.


That's the best idea I've heard yet. I could probably obtain the services of a crack security expert for no more than the cost of sponsoring an internship.

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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:16 pm Post subject:

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Can your kids access the usb phone drive? How long till they figure out they can delete the call log by deleting the call log file on the usb phone drive?

Gary

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Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:20 pm Post subject:

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Frank Zappa wrote:
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When I run into someone who is having all kinds of computer problems I suggest that they call the local Junior High School and hire the local computer wizard.


That's the best idea I've heard yet. I could probably obtain the services of a crack security expert for no more than the cost of sponsoring an internship.


Very likely. There is a lot of hidden talent out there. Unfortunately some of it ends up with their picture in the newspaper.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:35 pm    Post subject:

Unfortunately don't have time right now to read all of it. You scared me at first I thought maybe you wrote all of that from memory!

Anyone running it as a service still?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:38 pm    Post subject:

First, why sticky only 2 replies, router tips has 20 replies and thats not sticky....? Secondly, I do not understand why you would want to run it as a service. Can someone please explain to me?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:45 pm    Post subject:

kumar wrote:
First, why sticky only 2 replies, router tips has 20 replies and thats not sticky....? Secondly, I do not understand why you would want to run it as a service. Can someone please explain to me?
Thanks
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Running MJ as a service makes it transparent so it does not interfere with other programs and starts automatically(think about fullscreen games etc.)

I did not make the router thread sticky because I did not feel it was really on topic for MagicJack. If another Mod makes it a sticky I will respect their opinion.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 11:08 pm    Post subject:

Yep no prob about sticky I was just curious.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:04 am    Post subject:

I just started running it as a service. Basically what I did was:

1) Created the Magicjack admin account & logged into it.

2) Installed the NT resource kit as listed above

3) Unplugged & plugged back in MJ so it detected it.

4) Created a reg file of the above exported registry value & imported it into the reg file (THANKS snafu2).

5) Rebooted the machine

6) Went in under my normal acct & changed the MJ acct to a user

7) Went to services & had MJ login as the magicjack acct & password for the MJ acct



Before this I was having problems with MJ, that it would stop working (no dial tone, would be silent) & the only way to start it back up was to unplug it & plug it back in. Hopefully now, I'll be able to just restart the service if it does the same thing.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:34 am    Post subject:

It sure would be a nice change if MJ did not take up the screen for a minute every time we startup. Even a minute once a day x 365 days is over 6 hours of time per year spent watching the always on top MJ picture. Why not startup in the background like everyone else?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:32 pm    Post subject:

hey guys, i am have alot of trouble with this tutorial. i am having alot of problems with getting the service started. i provide the path to the files but "not recognized" any help?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:48 pm    Post subject:

It's good for the experts to share the hack, but meanwhile, why not have MJ fix the problem?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:27 am    Post subject: Vista

I believe I have put everything in as needed in Vista for this to run as a service. However, I only get dial tone, and can not make phone calls.

WHen I go to the services and click on Properties it says: "Configuration manager: The specified device ID is not a valid Device ID". My phone doesn't work Sad

please help.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:55 pm    Post subject:

MrSandman wrote:
hey guys, i am have alot of trouble with this tutorial. i am having alot of problems with getting the service started. i provide the path to the files but "not recognized" any help?


When installing as a service, you must first do a standard installation logged on as the user whose account will be used in running the service. If you don't do this first the permissions to access the usb device do not get set. In some cases it is useful to have the UTSCSI service running during the installation phase of the service installation to ensure that the usb device is accessible to a reduced-privileged user. After successful installation the UTSCSI service can be disabled. (highly recommended)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 2:18 am    Post subject:

Has anyone made this work with Vista Premium? Does this tutorial work for Vista? The Microsoft links don't include Vista as a supported OS.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:06 pm    Post subject:

Am I missing something or is the purpose of running as a service to bypass the 1 minute lockout by MJ where an image is displayed and we can't do anything else. Seems very arrogant from MJ standpoint - why can't MJ load in the background like all the other 50 or so programs that are loading when we start up.

At present, because of this annoyance, my poor solution is to not plug the MJ in until I'm ready to use it and then be locked out for a minute. Hope someone from MJ is monitoring this discussion. This has to be the feature I dislike the most about MJ.

A minute may not seem like much, but 1 minute x 365 days (if be reboot only once per day) = 6 hours wasted or almost an entire day lost each year for every MJ user which is unnecessary - just load in the background.

I think I saw someplace that there were 50,000 MJ users. 50,000 x 6 hours per person = 300,000 hours lost. 300,000 hours lost / 8 hours per day / 250 work days per year = 150 man years of effort wasted with this irritating feature for the MJ community each year.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2008 10:09 pm    Post subject:

Denver Dave wrote:
I think I saw someplace that there were 50,000 MJ users. 50,000 x 6 hours per person = 300,000 hours lost. 300,000 hours lost / 8 hours per day / 250 work days per year = 150 man years of effort wasted with this irritating feature for the MJ community each year.


i get lost in all that new math, but you're right it is annoying.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reviving this Sticky

Hi Gang,

Can anyone explain in better detail how to run MJ as a service? I'm running XP Home and have installed the rktools.exe, created the MagicJack admin account but am totally lost after that. I went to microsoft and tried to follow their instructions, and that's where I have problems. I'm not computer illiterate; however, I don't know dos, nor do I mess around with the registry much Crying or Very sad . I can follow simple instructions and would be very appreciative if someone would detail the process step by step.

Thanks in advance,
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 12:01 am    Post subject:

Sorry I don't know the answer. I've seen discussion on this topic. Just curious - why do you wish to run MJ as a service?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:46 pm    Post subject:

check out the app here as an easier way to get up and running (it's got a GUI and it's free!)

http://carpcnet.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownloaddetails&lid=79
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:50 pm    Post subject:

Thanks OBM,

If that works as well as it appears, it will be very helpful for lots of things!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:59 pm    Post subject:

I just used it and it worked a treat Wink
it didn't seem very happy to copy the scrany and instsvr programs into the \windows\system32 directory so I did that manually but it set up the service etc perfectly.
the one thing that bugs me is on a reboot MagicJack Setup says it failed to update... I can't work out how the setup is trying to run Sad
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:06 am    Post subject: Touch tone issues running in service mode

I had mine running on my Win2003 SageTV server, but it would randomly stop working. I installed it on my main desktop (XP SP2) as a service using these instructions and it works great. I do have a question though related to touch tones.

Before I had it as a service, certain automated systems would not recognize the touch tones correctly. The workaround was to type in the touchtones through the magicjack softphone screen. Since that screen is no longer present with the service hack, is there any workaround?

EDIT: I just tried one of the automated systems I had issues with and it worked fine in service mode. I tried this system (revolution card) several days ago while not running in service mode and it did not recognize the touchtones without using the magicjack interface software to type them in. I wonder if the service mode somehow fixes the issue or if its something else?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 11:10 am    Post subject:

kumar wrote:
First, why sticky only 2 replies, router tips has 20 replies and thats not sticky....? Secondly, I do not understand why you would want to run it as a service. Can someone please explain to me?
Thanks
Kumar


yeah I run mj as a service and it works perfectly. Much better than out of the box way.

Here is another link talking about service installation.
http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/run-magic-jack-as-a-service-simplified-t928.html?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:21 pm    Post subject:

I set this up tonight on my 5 day-old MJ. It worked right away, the instructions were a snap. If I do want to see the pop-up window with the phonepad, how can I get it back? I had to max the volume up in the pop-up each time I started the app prior to making it a service. I now can't get to the volume controls, as I need to turn them up. I just spoke with someone who said I was hard to hear.

Thanks in advance!!!

I've got spoofing and am running it as a service! Life is good, just need to get the sound quirks fixed yet.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 11:29 am    Post subject:

offbeatmammal wrote:
check out the app here as an easier way to get up and running (it's got a GUI and it's free!)

http://carpcnet.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownloaddetails&lid=79


Nice post. Makes it easier for the lay-man.
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PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2008 11:43 pm    Post subject:

TRY THIS. Very easy.

http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/post11077.html#11077
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:42 am    Post subject:

sbb wrote:
TRY THIS. Very easy.

http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/post11077.html#11077


I have used that before .... but FireDeamon ain't free.
Plus, the other methods simply just install the service in the OS with nothing else to install. Less programs the better.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 8:00 pm    Post subject:

So what are the correct procedures for this? there not clear in the forum
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 12:19 pm    Post subject:

Ok. about 3 weeks ago I installed my Magicjack as a service. All went well for a while. Now it won't work. If I go to the services tab and check to allow it to interact with desktop it gives me a verification tab that I have to log onto. Once I log on it loads the softphone to the desktop. Anybody know a way to make this thing auto log on? Right now it is running as a local account which was enabled through the registry. This thing just started this this morning, maybe a new update?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:51 am    Post subject:

Yep. an update has come through that broke my service as well.... trying to figure it out....

Anyone that can help, please do!
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 4:56 pm    Post subject: IT WORKS

THANKS TO YOU ALL It was fun and easy to do Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:23 am    Post subject:

I had MJ run as a service for about a month and just 3 days ago, I had no dialtone so I rebooted my XP Professional machine and left it. About 30 mins later, still no dialtone and my pc was in the login screen (have multiple user accts on this pc). So logged in where I had MJ installed on the initial setup, checked MJ service and it was running but still no dialtone. I clicked on the MJ icon on my desktop and that run MJ softphone and only then did I get a dialtone.

Something happened and I don’t recall any upgrade that I installed on the MJ but I think there was one time that I run magicfix (I don’t know for what reason).

How can I get MJ to give me a dialtone even at a login screen? What do I have to change/modify in the current MJ service to bring it back to where it was?

Please advise and thank you.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: recheck

Recheck Services,post registry for MJ,REinstall service MJ
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:15 pm    Post subject:

Can anyone confirm if this still works? I'm about to try it when I get home but I want to know if it'll still work.

I run magicjack on a PC in my house and sometimes I remote-desktop into that machine and use it. When I log out of the remote session, magicjack stops working until i get home and log in to the computer. Hoping this corrects that issue.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 8:16 pm    Post subject:

Yes, it still works, even after the latest update on 1/13/2009, though I prefer the method descibed in semicharms:
http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/magic-jack-as-a-service-a-better-way-t1364.html
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