Latest MJ upgrades require Thin Clients with 512/512 memory?

Jibu · Post by **Jibu** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:34 pm

Hi, I'm sorry if this has already been posted, but it's been so hard for me to find the final word on this. I just ordered a thin client with 256/256 memory (a newbie to TCs). I was wondering if all of these audio/directx/etc problems have been resolved so that I won't have to upgrade my memory to 512 or above. Does anyone know what the final word on this is? Thanks.

Delta-9 · Post by **Delta-9** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:37 pm

I bought a 192/256 TC and upgraded it to 1gb DOM / 512mb RAM and its working flawlessly with the MJ software.

I would recommend this setup (1gb DOM vs 512mb DOM) as it allows for extra "wiggle" room.

Jibu · Post by **Jibu** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:38 pm

Delta-9 wrote:I bought a 192/256 TC and upgraded it to 1gb DOM / 512mb RAM and its working flawlessly with the MJ software.

I would recommend this setup (1gb DOM vs 512mb DOM) as it allows for extra "wiggle" room.

Do you think it would still work with a 256/256 setup? BTW, how much did you pay to upgrade to that setup?

Delta-9 · Post by **Delta-9** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 10:52 pm

Memory = $0 (took it from an older laptop that I "gave" to my father, he rarely uses the laptop)
1gb DOM was like $30 from transcend http://ec.transcendusa.com/product/Item ... 1GDOM44H-S

I tried for the better part of a week to get mine to work on 192/256 before I gave up. You can try, but its worth the $$ to upgrade and avoid the frustration.

Jibu · Post by **Jibu** » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:46 pm

Thanks for the link, Delta. Do you know what is necessary to upgrade to 512 - the DOM or the RAM? Or both?

kulumbaa · Post by **kulumbaa** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:04 am

my MJ works flawlessly on a 256/256 TC with the latest upgrade, no directx , no audio issues.

Jibu · Post by **Jibu** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:05 am

kulumbaa wrote:my MJ works flawlessly on a 256/256 TC with the latest upgrade, no directx , no audio issues.

kulumbaa, that's great to hear! Do you have an HP T5710 TC?

booyah5 · Post by **booyah5** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:55 am

I got a 5700 256/256, and MJ failed to even load. I'm in the process of upgrading it. Just waiting on shipping.

I might go with full blown XP since I'll be using a 4 gb micro drive rather than flash.

PTravel · Post by **PTravel** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:47 am

No need for the 1GB DOM -- I've got a MagicJack that's working fine with 512k. As for RAM, it's more a function of room for software installation (the temp files that Windows use for the purpose are pointed to the Z-drive, which is RAM). Plug in a USB stick, change the temp variables (Device Manager/Advanced/Environmental Variables) to point to the USB stick, do your installations, change the environment variables back to the Z-drive, commit and re-boot. You can then unplug the stick and everything should work just fine.

Delta-9 · Post by **Delta-9** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:26 am

PTravel wrote:No need for the 1GB DOM -- I've got a MagicJack that's working fine with 512k.

Agreed, 1gb is not necessary.

That being said, the extra 512mb makes the process a little easier since you have much more wiggle room. Since the OP said he currently has a 256mb DOM and needs to upgrade regardless, which was my exact situation. I found the $5.90 price difference between 512 and 1G to be negligible and completely worth it to have a little more space on the thin client. That extra space can be used for other applications on the TC down the line.

booyah5 · Post by **booyah5** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 3:43 pm

booyah5 wrote:I got a 5700 256/256, and MJ failed to even load. I'm in the process of upgrading it. Just waiting on shipping.

I might go with full blown XP since I'll be using a 4 gb micro drive rather than flash.

I finally got it to work stock but with an echo. See post here: http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/post20041.html#20041

Jibu · Post by **Jibu** » Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:12 pm

I just wanted to give an update and let you guys know that I now have the MJ working perfectly on my 1.2 GHz T5710 TC using 256/256 memory (even better than it was on my laptop via powered USB hub). The issues I was having before was not related to the Thin Client, but rather other issues that the MJ servers are having and they are working on it now (issue being that I am not able to call out of area code cell phones at the moment). Other than that, all I have left to do now is to wire this baby through my home wiring and we'll have a complete home phone replacement and $600 annual savings!!

A BIGGG THANK YOU to the extremely helpful users on this forum for the great TC stickies - especially VaHam!!

insanitor · Post by **insanitor** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:42 pm

I've got a t5700 1ghz 256/256 and I have got the magicjack to work fine.

I only needed to do several things.

Uninstall all of that extra stuff to save hard drive space, set the tc to login as administrator, remove that sygate security agent, and install that usb driver.

My friend now says that the audio quality is so good, he cannot tell the difference between the mj and a real landline.

All of this thanks to this forum because before I came here, I did not even know what the heck a thin client was.

Thanks guys!

jeepsterguy · Post by **jeepsterguy** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 12:08 am

A t5700 may work right now with just 256mb/256mb if you uninstall a lot of unnecessary stuff, but you have to remember that MJ does updates all the time. If you want to stay current with the features, you would be better served by going with a TC with 512Mb/512Mb. With that much memory, you will have some time before the TC/MJ combination will not work correctly anymore. You can try to implement with less, but may run into problems. I upgraded mine after I could not get mine to work correctly with the 256/256 combination. There are other custom firmware available that would require you to have more than the 265m/256m memory combination.

insanitor · Post by **insanitor** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:38 am

I realize that. However, I have uninstalled so much stuff that even after the mj is installed, I still have 36.6mb of free space left.

It will take quite some time before my mj stops working.

And when that happens, there is still a lot more stuff I can uninstall, plus files I can delete to save even more space.

tony · Post by **tony** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 11:50 am

insanitor wrote:I realize that. However, I have uninstalled so much stuff that even after the mj is installed, I still have 36.6mb of free space left.

Wow, that's encouraging, MJ working with a 256/256. My TC should be arriving any day now. It's a 1GHz T5700 with 256/256. I've separately ordered 512/512 but it'll take another few weeks to get here.

Can you summarize what you left on the TC and what you took off and yet still have a functioning TC? Did you delete stuff by trial and error, one at a time, then reboot to see if the TC still works? I plan on using HolmanGT and Jeepster's detailed instructions. But Jeepster's requires 512 DOM minimum setup.

thanks.

jeepsterguy · Post by **jeepsterguy** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 1:06 pm

insanitor wrote:I've got a t5700 1ghz 256/256 and I have got the magicjack to work fine.

I only needed to do several things.

Uninstall all of that extra stuff to save hard drive space, set the tc to login as administrator, remove that sygate security agent, and install that usb driver.

My friend now says that the audio quality is so good, he cannot tell the difference between the mj and a real landline.

All of this thanks to this forum because before I came here, I did not even know what the heck a thin client was.

Thanks guys!

Maybe you should start a thread with the instructions on how to get a 5700 with 256/256 working, detailing the stuff you removed to get it to work. I am sure there are several people out there who would like to know what you did to get it to work correctly. One question, do you have TeamViewer or some other remote access solution installed as well or do you have to monitor and keyboard up each time you want access to the box?

tony · Post by **tony** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 2:05 pm

[quote="jeepsterguy" One question, do you have TeamViewer or some other remote access solution installed as well or do you have to monitor and keyboard up each time you want access to the box?[/quote]

I see several people using teamviewer. I'm using RealVNC (free) on various computers in the house. I plan on using Maxivista on the TC as the TC will be running my extended monitor. Maxivista can drop into remote control mode. But I think Maxivista only works within the same network (served by the same router), it's not meant to traverse over the Internet. RealVNC I'll be able to control the TC over the Internet. Is there an advantage of teamviewer over RealVNC? Teamviewer is limited to controlling one PC. No limit with RealVNC with port forwarding.

jeepsterguy · Post by **jeepsterguy** » Thu Nov 20, 2008 3:07 pm

I am not sure there is any real advantage to using Team Viewer over a solution line RealVNC. I used it because after reading over many of the threads in the MJ on a Thin client forum, there were many examples of successful installation on the t5700. I didn't want to spend any more time to try to work out any problems with another product.
Team Viewer is a free for non-commercial use product as well and will allow for VNC off network connections as well, I believe.

insanitor · Post by **insanitor** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:08 pm

tony wrote:
insanitor wrote:I realize that. However, I have uninstalled so much stuff that even after the mj is installed, I still have 36.6mb of free space left.
Wow, that's encouraging, MJ working with a 256/256. My TC should be arriving any day now. It's a 1GHz T5700 with 256/256. I've separately ordered 512/512 but it'll take another few weeks to get here.

Can you summarize what you left on the TC and what you took off and yet still have a functioning TC? Did you delete stuff by trial and error, one at a time,

thanks.

I first did a complete reinstall, then I logged in as admin and set the thin client to always login as admin and changed that stupid thing that undoes the changes upon reboot.

I removed .net messenger, acrobat reader, citrix ica, media player, multiple components, sygate security agent, and teemnt.

Then I installed the MJ and insalled the usb driver and voila!