what would happen if u use ATA and usb stick at same tiime?

[nakamoniel]

I have my linksys router configured with sip settings and allllllllll working good. I was just wondering what would happend if i plug in usb magicjack into my pc to use it with other applications like yahoo? would i loose my magicjack services at all? or both on pc and in router will keep working good?

[synchron]

Just tried it. Doesn't seem to work. As long as there is Voip light on ATA all I get when using the dongle is an eventual dialtone. *67 trick doesn't work either.

What's a little scary is that I disconnected power from the ATA and it still doesn't want to dial out on the mj usb dongle. I'm hoping that the registration timeout from the ATA is on MJ's servers so, in my case this is set to 3600 (1 hour.) I'd rather not mess with these settings so anyone who is knowledgeable feel free and step in if you know what the deal is..

Edit - seems to be a fluke as it works as of today but I wouldn't recommend it.

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[trek101]

I have my linksys router configured with sip settings and allllllllll working good. I was just wondering what would happend if i plug in usb magicjack into my pc to use it with other applications like yahoo? would i loose my magicjack services at all? or both on pc and in router will keep working good?

Since you have configured your SIP settings for MJ loaded to your ATA router and if you plug the dongle in to your PC the you will lose services on your ATA and the possibility when the registration server sees that there is a two sip credentials being used at the same it may cause it to have the proxy user password to rekey.

Since the MJ dongle is designed for their services and you are utilising an network ATA, it would be best to keep it safely in the desk drawer. If you are planning to take it with you on a trip where you will be utilising the dongle, just make sure to disable the line on your ATA first...

[tillithz]

I have had both working at the same time. unknowingly thought but it did work. both of them.

[nakamoniel]

Understood, I was afraid of same thing of getting caught using 2 devices at same time and Loosing service, What i really want to do is use usb dongle with other services, is there a way to remove MAGICJACK application from usb dongle as long as i keep using my ata, and when i plan to TRAVEL or my password gets changed, i can disable ATA and put that software that i removed from magicjack( and ofcourse saved in some folder on PC) back into USB dongle for as long as I use it? Is it possible? Has anyone successfully done it?

[aakimenko]

I opened device manager (winKey+Pause=>hardware), and disabled USB MagicJack Devices under DISK DRIVE & CD-ROM/DVD => then selected USB audio device in instant messenger apps (may be called TigerJet) - works like a charm for VOIP apps (like instant messenger). When i need to use MJ as intended by developers, I simply anable the disabled devices, and MJ app loads.

[Cybernaut]

I have a question along the same lines. What if you have an ATA running with the MJ's sip credentials at home and you also want to have a VoIP phone such as a Linksys WIP330 with the same sip credentials to take on the road. Can you have both devices running at the same time? Or would you have to get a second MJ and use it's sip credentials in the VoIP phone? Or would one need to disable the ATA before leaving the house? Oh and the above would be with the MJ itself away in a drawer.

[synchron]

I would tend to agree with trek101 and unplug your ATA and avoid having them both up simultaneously.

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[xxM5xx]

Trek101 gave the best answer. DO NOT have two devices register(ed) to MJ servers simultaneously. Even if it does work (now) it is so easy for Dan to have software to detect this and shut off your account. If I were Dan, I would do that. It is probably just a matter of time before he adds that to his system.

The less you do to raise any "flags" to your activities, the better off you'll be. Don't tempt your luck and do something as silly as have the MJ Dongle plugged into (and registered on) a computer in Cleveland, OH and have an ATA registered in Dallas,TX. This is bound to get you in hot water...if not today...at some future time.

Take Trek101's advice. If you use and ATA, put your chrome MJ Dongle in your sock drawer. If you use several computers, and soft phones, or several ATA's, be smart-and-don't allow any of them to register to MJ while one of the other ones is already registered to MJ.

xxM5xx

[synchron]

Well said, M5.

In the interests of "science", I tried once running MJ without dongle while the ATA was on. It was OK for one call only, then any call out would get 3 steady busy signals and call terminated. Shutting the ATA off then killing MJ and restarting caused it to work fine again. Interestingly enough, doing it the other way by turning the ATA on with MJ (dongleless) on and working had no effect, that is, ATA always got authenticated. MJ would crap out after the 2nd dial out call again.

So can I take a guess from this experiment and say that ATA hardware always has the ability to authenticate whereas MJ authenticates/"deauthenticates" for every call??

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[trek101]

I have a question along the same lines. What if you have an ATA running with the MJ's sip credentials at home and you also want to have a VoIP phone such as a Linksys WIP330 with the same sip credentials to take on the road. Can you have both devices running at the same time? Or would you have to get a second MJ and use it's sip credentials in the VoIP phone? Or would one need to disable the ATA before leaving the house? Oh and the above would be with the MJ itself away in a drawer.

In my personal opinion it is not a good idea to have an ATA and the Linksys WIP330 with the same SIP credentials due to the fact in human nature we sometimes do "forget" which one we have active or the other. As stated before the risk of having two active SIP's at the same time will cause their proxy servers to start flagging your account. I personally have 2 MJ numbers: 1 on the ATA and 1 on the WIP330. I just utilise the no answer transfer to my WIP330's number vice versa.

Besides I picked up 2 MJ's during the "Black Friday" sale last year and with the "family resemblance discount special" I received another 10% off. So my total cost was just shy of $60 USD and if I want to renew it for another year for $40 USD on both numbers.

Since I bounce the usage between the ATA and the WiFi handset along with both are utilising two completely different SIP credentials it works out fine in the end.

In closing, it will be less of a hassle to purchase another MJ and register for another number and not have to worry if you remembered to deactivate the ATA just as you are switching on your WiFi phone. For rough break down of $3.33 USD a month for the first year. Is it worth the risk of having of the same credentials crashing into their servers with the potential of having your account terminated over it? The path is yours for the choosing...

[Cybernaut]

Thanks, that's what I figured.

I just utilise the no answer transfer to my WIP330's number vice versa.

Could you elaborate on what this is and how it works? I don't have the WIP330 yet but I do want to get one. How do you like it? Any problems? Thanks for the help.

[trek101]

Thanks, that's what I figured.

I just utilise the no answer transfer to my WIP330's number vice versa.

Could you elaborate on what this is and how it works? I don't have the WIP330 yet but I do want to get one. How do you like it? Any problems? Thanks for the help.

The no answer answer transfer work within the ATA's regional calling features. Currently I am using a Linksys SPA2102. While I was attempting the grasp the learning curve of programming it. I found the calling features codes which appears to be a telco standard. i.e. *72 is activate call forwarding and *73 is to deactivate (this feature does not work, so you will have to use MJ's web interface on your account to activate hard call forwarding). However *92xxxxxxxxxx does work for the no answer transfer mode. (x's referring the 10 digit number you wish to have your call to be forwarded to) *93 to deactivate it. I am not sure if this feature available on all ATA's but I do know that the Linksys SPA2102, PAP2, and the PAP2T has it.

As for the WIP330 WiFi phone; works rather well than I expected. There are some latency issues that I have to contend with especially in a wireless environment. Overall, I really don't have any complaints about it besides the price tag. I have utilised the phone in open hotspots including airports. One feature I like is the built-in web browser since most hotspots will reroute to their TOS page and you will have to click and agree to grant access to their network. Just as long as they don't block the UDP ports we need to access MJ's network you are able to make and receive calls without too much issue.

The way it works for the moment, I have my no answer transfer activated to my WiFi phone number. If I don't get to the ringing ATA number in about 5 or so rings it will forward to my WiFi phone. In order for the no answer transfer to work the ATA must be active and registered to MJ's proxy server. In a nutshell if you powered it off by mistake or the NET goes down for some reason. It will not work. In the mean time; everything is working better than I expected and the hackneyed cliché goes as follows: If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Just leave it alone.

I am going back my friendly neighbourhood retailer down the ways and purchase another MJ and tinker from there. Amazing that there is so much to learn on a $40 USD device and have lot of fun experimenting and hopes not to get into too much trouble...

One more note: Bear in mind that WiFi resides in the ISM band and there is alot of networks out there which may cause it undesirable operation including 2.4 GHz cordless phones, A/V video monitors, etc. Including the possible leaky nuke-o-matic (microwave oven) in the kitchen. It operates in the radio frequency of 2.450 GHz, so if wonder why your WiFi network mysteriously crashes when you heat up something in the microwave that is the reason..

[Cybernaut]

The way it works for the moment, I have my no answer transfer activated to my WiFi phone number. If I don't get to the ringing ATA number in about 5 or so rings it will forward to my WiFi phone. In order for the no answer transfer to work the ATA must be active and registered to MJ's proxy server.

This sounds great, how is it setup? My ATA is a PAP2.

[MrVile]

nakamoniel,
Would you mind pointing me in the right direction to properly configure my unlocked Linksys WRTP54G to use my MagicJack service? I used MJinfo to obtain the following information from my MagicJack:

ProxyUserName
ProxyUserPassword
SIPproxyURI (IP)
SIPproxyURI
SIPport

Do I need any other information? I must be putting the information in the wrong place or something because I can't get a dial tone and, on the status page registration has failed. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.