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Re: 100% FREE PHONE-DUKA DIAL

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saxman wrote:http://labs.jaduka.com/dukaDial

Free phone calls anywhere in the US -you need a local phone. You dial on their softphone and it rings your home phone then goes through to the number dialed. Good for people with local phones that want to make free long distance or local calls. I didn't get too good of connection with it using MJ but it does work good and there is no charge at all-



I seen you post this and let me tell you it makes MJ magic. I called at least 4 friends in 4 different states and what a difference in audio quality and no breaking up etc. Now my MJ has been 99.9% since day one the way i use it. So i seen this post and made a free account and tried it. On my end it makes my magicJack 110%. Thank you! :D
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The problem with Ooma is their customer service. If you have an issue and need to reach them, be prepared to hold forever, and/or be disconnected multiple times. I myself enjoy a bargain, but not at the expense of good customer service when a problem arises.
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Post by saxman »

Thanks Krieg and Liquor--So Now we have another phone option-Man if some one would put all the pieces together we would have one great free phone!
Krieg-my service used to be good as well but for some reason it's no more. Dan sent me a new one but I need to change my number and I don't want to do that and I've deided to just go ahead and get the Ooma-I've heard stories about the customer service but when I emailed them they emailed back the next day.-not bad.

I hope they improve that, I'm sure they will but most people never need to contact them anyway from what I heard.So, I keep my prepaid cell for backup still and get Ooma and never apy a thing again-nice-

Ya know I kinda hate saying goodby to MJ as they did save me a lot of bucks over the last 3 years, but I have high blood pressure and the call quality has gotten bad on every call now and people are telling me to make it stop! So, this gets my BP up and thats not good.

Question-Does anyone know what to do with old MJ s? I have 2 MJS -can I give them away or do they want them back? Any idea? I may give them to a friend if possible but will that work and will my friend beat me up in 3 months after he has fully experienced the Magic Jack version of echo mountain?
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saxman wrote: Question-Does anyone know what to do with old MJ s? I have 2 MJS -can I give them away or do they want them back? Any idea? I may give them to a friend if possible but will that work and will my friend beat me up in 3 months after he has fully experienced the Magic Jack version of echo mountain?
If you have an old ATA laying around, you could get the SIP credentials and put them on it. Should give you pretty decent call quality if you want something to play around with.

Otherwise, I am sure your friend would enjoy them. Another option is invest in a slingshot and use the MJ's as ammo :D
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Well, I can't remember the way it works overseas. If I give him both of them and he sneds one to his wife in England, he;s in Spain will it work and does he need a local number from Spain -and still free right?-
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saxman wrote:Well, I can't remember the way it works overseas. If I give him both of them and he sneds one to his wife in England, he;s in Spain will it work and does he need a local number from Spain -and still free right?-
They would have the US numbers attached to them. They could call each other's MJ or any number in the US for free.
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Post by saxman »

Yea-thats it-well that would work. But the numbers are my numbers. Now I don't want thos numbers when I switch to Ooma so I suppose he could take my old numbers too-
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Going to make the switch

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I read the attached review yesterday.
http://www.dogatemyfinances.com/2009/02 ... -ooma.html
Also received my February Costco magazine where they feature "ooma" and read their reviews, along with those posted on numerous sites
After a really spotty weekend--choppy audio, echoes, calls going to dial tone--I've decided it's time to try a new mouse trap.
Went on line to Costco.com and bought it.
Will try "ooma" and MJ for a month and compare the results.
If "ooma" gives me the kind of service like I've read about, I will be a former MJ customer.
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Re: Well, Sort of...

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For those of whom are interested in a deeper evaluation of Skype's inner workings, consider exploring the Skype protocol Wikipedia article and An Analysis of the Skype Peer-to-Peer Internet Telephony Protocol; both of which I have found interesting and helpful.
There is also a good paper by a colleague of mine on the security of Skype:

http://www.skype.com/security/files2005 ... uation.pdf
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Post by JohnnyFreightTRAIN »

Ooma is too expensive, and only makes calls to the USA.
I live in Canada so that makes it COMPLETELY USELESS.

Not to mention, they reserve the right to start charging for phone calls after 3 years.
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JohnnyFreightTRAIN wrote:Ooma is too expensive, and only makes calls to the USA.
I live in Canada so that makes it COMPLETELY USELESS.

Not to mention, they reserve the right to start charging for phone calls after 3 years.
That would take care of my concern that Ooma (as "free lifetime calls") is a Ponzi scheme. $200-$250 for three years of free service sounds more believable, followed by a choice of plans.

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Gators-looks like you paid $220.00 for yours at Costco right? I got mine online for $210.0, that's with $15.00 for shipping. Both good deals. I should have mine in a few days. Lets compare notes. It may take me a little while to get it setup right. I need to figure out where the Hawking Broadband Booster and switch go in the setup. I may need to spend time on their tech forum or attempt to get through by phone and I hear thats real tough to do. I do think we will be getting some clear calls real soon though.
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Here we go with the Ponzi scheme again-lol-well, lets see, if they start charging me in 3 years that means that because I paid $210.00 for it, devided by 36 months is about $5.00 a month to call all over America and actually have a clean clear sounding phone. I think thats worth 5 a month.
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Post by saxman »

Johnny Freight t-the cost to call Canada is 1.4 cents per minute-Chile is 5 cents-China-2.5 cents-Columbia is all of 3.9 cents per minute-I'd say that's pretty reasonable for clear calls.
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Post by sligg111 »

saxman wrote:--"He'll either be happy or he'll come back under a new name so as not to be embarrassed about the raving..What a lame statement!- I don't change names. I've had the same name on here for 3 years idiot. and if you read the reviews by the owners of Ooma you wouldn't even say something so stupid. And if your not having any trouble with MJ what are doing surfing the MJ tech forum for? I know, just looking at all the people with problems right? lol-or maybe a date!

The thing gives you as much trouble as it does everyone else complaing in these forums. So, tell it like it is. The thing has lousy audio and I know what I'm saying after three years of trying everything possible to get a clear call I can count on. I guess it just boils down to what your willing to put up with and you just don't mind the background noise, echos, etc. that happen on alot of calls. My system is top of the line and I keep the MJ set to high priority . I use Hawking broadband booster and I use the email address of the owner and 5 of his top tech support people over the
years to fix numerous problems. So, grasshumper, you can go on paying for 3rd world phone service. Some people are just not willing to pay a little more for alot better service-but many people are.

The rest of the world is improving and moving on.When technology improves, you need to catch up. And in the case of VOIP there's a much better mouse on the market. Just as soon as I can get one I will. That company has goldmine on their hands and they are making alot of money. My local Walmart can't keep enough stocked. They are not having any money problems at all and if I had something to sell people for $250.00 a pop and no overhead I wouldn't be too worried about the future either. So say what you want, Ooma is a new voip phone that actually delivers clear calls EVERYTIME!-ANYTIME-MJ only neede to invest in R+D and they could have done the same thing and had a good product but they took the low road and choose to keep it as is, which is getting worse everyday. The call quality is worse and last night I couldn't even use my phone for a few hours. I could not make any outgoing calls-server overload? who knows-

I'm in your boat. I had MJ for eighteen months and the best I can say about my experience was that it was a horror show.

I'm using Ooma about five months and the best I can say is that I'm not aware of the device. The hub just sits there waiting to receive or send a phone call. It has worked flawlessly.

Just think about MJ-no more five hour chat sessions with zero results. Compared to Ooma, MJ is just a toy.
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Post by saxman »

Sligg-I can't find a page that has setup diagrams for Ooma-Do you know of one? Maybe you can tell me how it's set up. The internet inputs straight to Ooma and then you plug Ooma to the phone but where do you plug into the modem and pc? Is there an output on the Ooma that goes to the pc or do I need a splitter to seperate the signal? Mine was mailed today and I should have it in a few days and I'd like to know if I'll need any addtional hardware like a splitter.thanks
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Post by murphy »

The documentation is available from here:

http://www.ooma.com/support/documentation.php
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Post by saxman »

Thanks Murphy-that tells me everything I need to know. This comes with all the hardware I'll need-nice!
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Post by dims24 »

Please keep us updated on your Ooma experience.

My MJ died a couple of months age and I've been looking for an alternative...... I like the idea of the phone working with the pc off....... I'll just sell my thin client to help pay for the cost of the Ooma.

Please keep posting here...... Thanks! Mike
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Post by dims24 »

I don't understand how to use multiple phones with Ooma.
With MJ you just run a phone line from the MJ to the wall and disconnect the old phone line coming into the house. Then I can use all 3 phones with MJ.

With Ooma, it sounds like you need the little extra hardware thingy.......is that true?

Some please explain how to use more than one phone with Ooma.
Thanks alot! Mike
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Dims-the Ooma Hub is the main box-the brains, and it also has a really nice answering machine in it. The Ooma Scout is a smaller box that goes in another part of the house and lets your other family members talk at the same time. In other words, your getting two seperate phone lines, all going through the main Hub and you pay for only the hardware. Thats it-250.00-nothing more-ever! I got mine online without the Scout because I have a cordless phone as well as a corded phone and with a cordless you can put the second one anywhere and it needs nothing to work. But, it does not give you a second phone line like the Scout-If you have other people and need a second line you definetly want the full package for 250.00-well worth it. This thing is so fine it's amazing! After three years with MJ, I kick myself for putting up with it. Ooma sound is just crystal clear every time WITHOUT the computer on!-Best get one before they raise the price.
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Post by az2008 »

saxman wrote:Thats it-250.00-nothing more-ever!
Earlier in this thread[1] it was said Ooma reserves the right to charge for usage (undefined) in 3 years. Is that true?

Personally, if that's not true, Ooma fits the classic definition of a Ponzi Scheme. If it is true, then it sounds like a reasonable service (what you'd expect to get for $250). But, I wouldn't say "you don't have to pay nothing more ever."

[1] http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/post31522.html#31522

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Post by saxman »

You again-you MUST work for Magic Joke. No more money is needed-who knows what will happen in three years. If they do charge something, it won't be much and it will be worth it-This thing sounds amazing! People actually like it when I call them again!!
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Post by msiam »

Sax, If you are so thrilled with your ooma, why are you still here?? Are you fishing for people to follow you?? I don't get it.. :? In your earlier posts, your Magicjack was the end all of solutions , then came the Hawkins BB Booster, now, MJ is crap and the newest "End all" solution is the ooma.. Without getting all defensive and going into a tangent, please explain why you haven't just dropped the MJ completely and just moved on.. :?
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Post by az2008 »

saxman wrote:You again-you MUST work for Magic Joke.
I keep detecting a lack of balance. Everything is hot/cold biased with you. There's no middle-ground, where something has good and bad points. Just because I see good points with MJ doesn't mean I work for MJ. (Anyone who's read my criticisms would know how fallacious your assertion is.).

And, just because I add some balance to your uncritical depictions of Ooma doesn't mean I have to work for a competitor. If you're going to say "never pay anything again for the rest of your life" you might at least mention that Ooma (apparently) went out of their way to disclose that they may charge a yet-to-be-disclosed amount after 3 years of service.

That's not the same as "who knows what they'll do next month." They (apparently) really indicated they may do something after 3 years of service.

Personally, that gives me a warmer feeling about Ooma than "a lifetime of free service," which is completely unreasonable.

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Hey-AZ, The sky is falling, run for your life man! lol-look, the truth is, we don't have any idea what the future holds for this company or Magic Joke or Chevy or Ford right? So why worry about things you have no control over. I'm saying that right now, at this time, this phone system, Ooma is by far, the very best deal out there. Now, if your happy with your "dongle" then stick with it. But my message is for those on this forum that are tired of the bad calls and no service. Mj has not improved their product since it came out over 3 years ago, and as you know, I rode it out and tried everything they and others have said to get cleaner, clearer calls, and in the end, it still had way too many problems.

Maybe not for you, but for many others. So, to compete in the telecommunication market you need to improve on the one thing people pay for, good quality audio. Ooma did, MJ, have not. -it's that simple and if it ends up costing me a few bucks more in 3 years so what? I paid $2oo.oo for a great phone that I can count on to delivery clean, clear calls, everytime. If you get a chance, go listen to it.

When MJ first came out, I got one and the sound was ok for a long time. But now, like you and others here have said, they may have oversold the thing and the pipes are clogged. O well, they need to fix it or quit.
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saxman wrote:the truth is, we don't have any idea what the future holds for this company or Magic Joke or Chevy or Ford right? So why worry about things you have no control over.
I agree. But, that's different than disclosing to customers that Ooma has apparently disclosed an intention to do something other than "free calls for life" after 3 years of service.

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MSIAM-As the original author of this thread I am also subscribed to it. So, when theres a post, I get an email. I'm sure you know how that all works right? Well, one of the posters just asked how Ooma works and the same poster asked for me to let them know how I liked Ooma once I got it. So, there's your answer of why I come back on here. If people want to know about this new phone system and I can tell them anything about it I will. It's called being helpful.

I don't work for Ooma or anyone else, I'm happily retired and just like telling people about good things I find. I did the same thing with MJ when it was new. At that time, it was giving me good service. That's before they started selling 300,000 a month, (or so they say).I also like honesty and entegrity and with all the times I emailed Dan and his tech support people to get mine to deliver a clear signal, I think I did plenty to try to get the thing working as advertised. It dosen't-Ooma does.

If MJ was really that reliable it would be in Walmart and Best Buy and Costco and a million other places. It's not-Ooma is. And this stupid statement about it being some "Ponzi Scheme" is just someones wild imagination and I would say they have been listening to Bill OReilly and Rush way too much! Those guys see darkness where others see light. They make money off of doom and gloom senarios. Ooma has already proven itself and has a great rating from all consumer groups, magazines and others. Just do a little research and check the user reviews on this thing. I trust this company to not go belly up or raise the rate. Well, actually there is no rate now. It's free. So far this has been the smartest $200.00 I ever spent.

If Dan decides to invest in the audio quality and if he gets it right, I'll plug mine back in. But only if Ooma decides to start charging in 3 years. Which I really doubt. Who knows, right now I have a great new phone system and love it!
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az2008 wrote:
saxman wrote:the truth is, we don't have any idea what the future holds for this company or Magic Joke or Chevy or Ford right? So why worry about things you have no control over.
I agree. But, that's different than disclosing to customers that Ooma has apparently disclosed an intention to do something other than "free calls for life" after 3 years of service.

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So what should I do-worry about what they may or may not do in 3 years? Why? Why not plop down the money to get a perfect sounding phone that works free now? It's a no-brainer!-For $200.00 this thing will be paid for in 1 year and cost me the whopping amount of $16.00 per month for those 12 months. Then the the next 2 years are free.

Then lets say they do decide to charge a small amount after that. So what? It will have been well worth it for the past 3 years of completely free calls, anytime, anywhere in the US-(2 cents per minute to Canada)-I'm paying for call quality and I now have it, on each and every call. I have tested this thing by talking for an hour at a time and there has been not one problem. No fluctuations, echo, clicking, beeping, or any other white noise. I like the fact that the computer can be off and it works perfect.

The people I call have all said how much better this sounds and when your talking to some good looking female that is very busy, this makes a big difference. When a call has any distortion, people tend to want to get off the phone asap. Like a bad cell connection, people don't want to stay on. I don't know if your aware of this but, when it comes to the ladies, you need time to get the ball rolling and with a bad connection, it's a waste of time. So, I will go out on a limb here and say with Ooma, your love life will improve! lol-
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Post by az2008 »

saxman wrote:So what should I do-worry about what they may or may not do in 3 years?
When cheerleading to the uninitiated, relate that Ooma has indicated they'll charge for the service after three years?

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saxman wrote:Hey-AZ, The sky is falling, run for your life man! lol-look, the truth is, we don't have any idea what the future holds for this company or Magic Joke or Chevy or Ford right? So why worry about things you have no control over. I'm saying that right now, at this time, this phone system, Ooma is by far, the very best deal out there. Now, if your happy with your "dongle" then stick with it. But my message is for those on this forum that are tired of the bad calls and no service. Mj has not improved their product since it came out over 3 years ago, and as you know, I rode it out and tried everything they and others have said to get cleaner, clearer calls, and in the end, it still had way too many problems.

Maybe not for you, but for many others. So, to compete in the telecommunication market you need to improve on the one thing people pay for, good quality audio. Ooma did, MJ, have not. -it's that simple and if it ends up costing me a few bucks more in 3 years so what? I paid $2oo.oo for a great phone that I can count on to delivery clean, clear calls, everytime. If you get a chance, go listen to it.

When MJ first came out, I got one and the sound was ok for a long time. But now, like you and others here have said, they may have oversold the thing and the pipes are clogged. O well, they need to fix it or quit.

Amen!
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saxman wrote:MSIAM-As the original author of this thread I am also subscribed to it. So, when theres a post, I get an email. I'm sure you know how that all works right? Well, one of the posters just asked how Ooma works and the same poster asked for me to let them know how I liked Ooma once I got it. So, there's your answer of why I come back on here. If people want to know about this new phone system and I can tell them anything about it I will. It's called being helpful.

I don't work for Ooma or anyone else, I'm happily retired and just like telling people about good things I find. I did the same thing with MJ when it was new. At that time, it was giving me good service. That's before they started selling 300,000 a month, (or so they say).I also like honesty and entegrity and with all the times I emailed Dan and his tech support people to get mine to deliver a clear signal, I think I did plenty to try to get the thing working as advertised. It dosen't-Ooma does.

If MJ was really that reliable it would be in Walmart and Best Buy and Costco and a million other places. It's not-Ooma is. And this stupid statement about it being some "Ponzi Scheme" is just someones wild imagination and I would say they have been listening to Bill OReilly and Rush way too much! Those guys see darkness where others see light. They make money off of doom and gloom senarios. Ooma has already proven itself and has a great rating from all consumer groups, magazines and others. Just do a little research and check the user reviews on this thing. I trust this company to not go belly up or raise the rate. Well, actually there is no rate now. It's free. So far this has been the smartest $200.00 I ever spent.

If Dan decides to invest in the audio quality and if he gets it right, I'll plug mine back in. But only if Ooma decides to start charging in 3 years. Which I really doubt. Who knows, right now I have a great new phone system and love it!
Amen again!!
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It is all simple economics and on what place on the quality-price curve you wish to sit.

MJ costs $20 for the dongle and $20 per year for service. ooma has cost saxman $200 (others typically pay $250). Most ATAs can be had for $40-60, so he has paid about $140 for the service part of the deal. Assuming quality is the same, ooma needs to live 7 years before planned obsolescence or additional fees bring it down to cross MJ on the price curve. If it dies before its 8th birthday or if ooma begin charging after 3 years, its price curve rises and will intersect with MJ's farther down the life cycle.

However, that is not how most of us calculate payback. Most of us calculate the payback of these two bottom-priced packages by comparing them to the $20 per month folks at the top of the curve. By that measure, MJ's payoff is after the second month (including the cost of hardware) and ooma's payoff is after the 10th month (for saxman's $200 investment), or a bit longer if you make a lot of calls to Canada. Either way, when measured like this, both packages have an incredibly short return on investment.

As to the value we put on quality, that is both objective and subjective. The objective piece is what saxman has addressed by replacing the MJ softphone with the ooma ATA. Regardless of which service you choose (and I have used dozens), call quality is generally significantly better when terminated on a hardware ATA than on a softphone. I posit that he could have gotten similar improvement in quality by replacing the MJ dongle with an ATA, but that process is more involved than he cared to pursue (my reading). The subjective part is in the human brain. Just as in fighting a cold or disease, much of the fight comes from the brain. If you believe in recovering faster, you will. So, too, if you believe that quality is better, it is.

There is room in this marketplace for products/services to enjoy success at both points on the curve. I hope that saxman gets to enjoy his ooma for more than 7 years. I hope that MJ lives that long, as well. Either way, both camps are "living free" in very short order.
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Well said mberlant. Beautiful way to put things in perspective.


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Post by saxman »

Thats funny stuff! I really had a great laugh from that-Thank You! Now, the real deal is this folks. Ooma works great!! It does not sound ANYTHING like MJ-It sounds as good or better then your old land line and if it cost me $ 200.00 for that, which is paid off in one year at the rate of a tad over $13.00 big ones a month. I win

! The audio quality is fantastic and I never again have to wonder how my next call will sound or if it will even work. Look, I did some leg work before plopping down the dough. I don't have alot of money and none to waste for sure. So I asked a few other people with MJs that live near me, how their service was. I wanted to be sure it wasn't some problem with my pc. It wasn't. They had nothing good to say at all about their MJ. It's not me, it's not you, the sound is bad and it's all about MJ and their not fixing it.

So, it comes down to just how many bad calls you want to listen to or how many people on the other end want to listen to it. Eventually, you'll realise that it's just not worth the cheap price to put up with it. In a perfect world, 20 bucks would get you a free phone, but there's always a catch. Now, in the case of Ooma, the company is completely honest and upfront about the fact that in three years there is a possibility that they may have to add a small fee, but they are trying to not have to do that.

If they do, it won't be much and it will be cheaper then any other "real phone system" out there. So, take it or leave it but I would get one now just in case they do go up, but then if you don't it may keep it coming through super clear and not go MJ on us and clog the lines. Here's a statement from a company rep on the way it works and the cost:

In reply to an earlier post on Dec 31, 2007 3:11 PM PST
Dennis P says:
I am head of the product group at ooma and I would like to take this opportunity to clarify a few things about our product.

Distributed Termination is a patent-pending technology that leverages peer-to-peer communications to eliminate cost barriers and enables ooma to offer unlimited calling in the US with no monthly fees. There are some common questions about how our technology works, which I will address below:

Is it legal? Yes. Although telecom regulations in the US are complex, we spent considerable time and resources securing the opinion of several leading legal authorities. They all agreed that we could offer our new ooma service in the way in which we are offering them.

Is it safe? Yes, ooma uses sophisticated technology to ensure the security and privacy of our customer's communication. Unlike other residential VoIP service providers, all traffic over the Internet is encrypted with state-of-the-art cryptographic algorithms. We also have algorithmic and hardware counter-measures to detect and prevent line-tapping. Rest assured, no one will be listening to your phone calls.

Will my number ever be shown for someone else's call? Under no circumstances would a subscriber's phone number be revealed to an end-user on a call that they did not make. We take the privacy of our customer and their communications seriously and go to extraordinary measures to safeguard it.

Will I still be able to make and receive calls? Yes, the technology works transparently and our customer's ability to make and receive phone calls, even multiple calls with our Instant Second Line, is never affected by Distributed Termination.

Do I need a basic landline? No. Early customers of ooma enjoy the same benefits whether or not they choose to use it with or without a landline. By using it with a landline, a customer retains traditional 911 service and enjoy the peace of mind that the landline will be used as a backup automatically if they lose power or their Internet connection drops. If these are not important benefits, the product can be used without a landline and ooma will provide E911 service that works over the Internet.

How much does a basic landline cost? Costs vary by locale, but averages around $15 per month (plus taxes/fees). This includes the Call Forward on Busy feature that enables the Instant Second Line and the Broadband Answering Machine to function properly. By forgoing the need for voicemail, call-waiting, 3-way calling, a second-line and other services offered by the phone company, our customers can easily save $30-$60 a month. Many customers may also have DSL where a basic landline is often bundled/required.

How long does service really last? The service and the ooma Hub and Scout are designed to be as or more reliable then the current generation of phone service and equipment. With a novel business model of including phone service within the price of the hardware, we wanted to retain the option to charge a fee for service after three years. But we hope to generate sufficient income from international calling, value-added services, and new hardware sales so that we never have to exercise that option.

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saxman wrote:Distributed Termination is a patent-pending technology that leverages peer-to-peer communications to eliminate cost barriers and enables ooma to offer unlimited calling in the US with no monthly fees.
Good grief. For a dozen postings you couldn't grasp the concept of distributed termination. Then you denied Ooma was doing it. Then you produced an email purporting to be from someone at Ooma saying they stopped doing it (even though their FAQ hadn't been changed to reflect that change in activity).

Now you've posted another email where Ooma seems to profess that they're doing it again.

So, is Ooma using the landlines of customers (who have landlines) to place calls for other Ooma customers?

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Hearing saxman describe ooma reminds me of an old Saturday Night Live parody commercial.

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And listening to fools that have no idea what their talking about gets real boring. So I'll let you listen to other users. I could care less if you or that other idiot ever get a "real phone" again. Your probably doing the world a favor when they can't understand you anyway, cause you make no sense anyway. Until you have tried something, you should never talk about it. Your comments are meaningless!

For others that have finally thought about switiching to something reliable here's some reviews:

have been a Vonage customer for three years and suffered through all of their growing pains. At $25 a month though for unlimited service I thought I would check to see what other options were available and decided on giving Ooma a try.

The Ooma hardware is well designed, with thoughtful touches like a built in speaker for listening to voicemail and a brightness control so that you can turn down the brightness of the unit in a bedroom. The hardware comes wonderfully packaged like a product from Apple and includes just about any of the cords you might need to get everything connected with your existing service.

Setup was quite easy. You have to get online and activate the Ooma Hub unit by entering the MAC address on the bottom of the unit and telling Ooma what kind of service setup you are doing, such as whether you will use Ooma with an existing line, get a new phone number, etc. They don't even need your credit card and you are activated.

If you are getting a new phone number then you are essentially done at this point. You get a new phone number to use, and you connect the Ooma hub to your home network. Ooma recommends you put the Ooma hub between your Cable or DSL modem and your home router (if you have one). The reason for this is that it allows the Ooma unit to manage your outbound internet traffic and make sure your phone calls are optimized ahead of other traffic, so that phone calls always have priority, sound good and work properly.

If you have a more sophisticated home network router than can do traffic shaping, recognition of IP audio, etc (some of the top of the line D-Link models have these "QoS" features built in) then you can simply plug the Ooma hub into such a router and get good results.

After plugging in the Ooma to your home network you simply connect a home phone to the Ooma unit and you are pretty much ready to go. There is an "ooma music" dial tone you will hear when you make or receive a call. This is one of the ways Ooma lets you and others know you are using their system and is sort of a free advertising that lets people know you are using this service.

You can plug the Ooma hub back in to one of your home wall jacks and then connect the Ooma scout unit in to another jack in the house so that you can use a 2nd phone there. The scout can even be configured to only ring on a 2nd line, have it's own voicemail, etc... this is possible because the Ooma hub has a built in DSL network system in it that allows it to communicate with the scout units over your home phone wiring. This is very sophisticated compared to other VoIP vendor offerings. You can add up to about 20 scouts on the system and keep adding lines, etc, but obviously there are bandwidth and practical limits that you might run into in such a scenario.

If you are porting a number things get a bit more complicated. After indicating I wanted to port my number I was informed on their website that I needed to call them to complete the porting process. The agent I reached was a bit confused and kept insisting I should just use my existing phone service with Ooma. About the 3rd time of telling him I just wanted to get my number ported he got the paperwork started up. They email you some forms a few days after activation that you need to fill out and fax in to get your number ported, which takes a few weeks. In the interim you are assigned a temporary number to use and you can plug your existing line into the Ooma hub and it will take your inbound calls and route them through the Ooma system. There is a $40 charge for porting your existing number but Ooma will waive this fee if you sign up for the $99 premier service that includes a 2nd phone number plus additional features. Ooma advertises that you can keep your original home service as a backup line, so that your phone works even if the Internet is down, but in my experience Internet service is at least as reliable as my old school home phone line. Anyways, it's your choice.

In my case I elected to port my number, but didn't connect my old line to the Ooma Hub (as the agent insisted I do), I simply forwarded the number to the temporary phone number that Ooma assigned to me during the porting process.

Ooma offers a full suite of software features such as "simulring" (ring a cell or 2nd line at the same time your Ooma phone is ringing), magical "2nd phone line" from another phone on the system when the 1st line is busy, etc. You can control your entire Ooma system from the "Ooma Lounge" which is basically a web page you can access from anywhere that lets you control your Ooma system, features, additional numbers, caller ID, etc. You can learn a lot more about these features on Ooma's website so I won't go into them in great detail since this review is long as it is.

Sound quality on the Ooma is very very good. My mom who is used to hearing me talk on my Vonage line immediately noticed how much better the service was. Sound quality should be excellent provided you connect the Ooma equipment properly.

I would strongly recommend this service to anyone with even a basic technical ability. If you simply need the "basics" of phone service such as call waiting, caller ID and voicemail, Ooma will be a one time purchase. Their premium services are also very nice and reasonable at only $99 a year (sure beats paying Vonage $300 a year for similar features).

One question that keeps coming up is how Ooma can make money with this model. The answer is that Ooma makes money when you buy the system hardware and also makes money when you subscribe to the $99 premium service. There's no saying that they won't increase the price of the premium services at some time in the future. Also, I wouldn't be surprised to see Ooma come up with new tempting hardware offers down the road such as better "scout" and "hub" units that offer features such as video calling between Ooma subscribers.

I am a voice over IP engineer and can certainly recommend the Ooma service, it's a great option compared to spending $30-$60 a month for basic phone service with your local phone company. Ooma supports E-911 for emergency calling, and if you are really worried about having a phone line during a power outage simply connect your cable modem, Ooma Hub and cordless phone system to a UPS Battery Back UP and you will have power for at least an hour during a power loss since all those devices will be running on battery.

I highly recommend this product and the model that Ooma are starting to put together to move beyond the "bell head" phone system that we all grew up with.

12/16 update//

I wanted to provide an update to my review and answer a few additional questions. My number port was completed by Ooma almost exactly three weeks after the request which is fantastic. When the porting request is completed you start to log into the Ooma Lounge with your "real" phone number versus the temporary one that Ooma assigns to you.

I had no issues setting up my 2nd line either. Simply select from available numbers in the area code of your choice and tell Ooma how you want the call handled when it comes in (if you want it to ring to a particular hub/scout, have its own voicemail, etc). Now on to a few questions and/or mis-information I have seen about the Ooma system.

1. I have seen a lot of posts comparing Ooma to Magic Jack. There is no comparison. Magic Jack is a USB adapter that requires a PC running 24/7 to handle your phone calls. PC crashes, no phone. Want multiple lines/scouts... too bad. The Magic Jack is a toy compared to Ooma. Additionally Ooma's basic features are far superior to Magic Jack and requires NO FEES! With Magic Jack you do have to pay annual fees for unlimited calling. So Ooma will actually be cheaper in the long run for most users!

2. I have also seen reviews indicating that Ooma works well, but choppy voice is experienced when using the Internet. This is caused by incorrect installation of the Ooma hardware. Ooma hub must be installed BETWEEN your cable modem and your home router or it cannot prioritize your telephone calls for good quality! The only exception is if you have a home router that prioritizes your voice traffic, such as some higher end models. If in doubt you must put the Ooma directly behind your Cable or DSL modem to get the optimum performance!

3. I have also seen people comment that you can't use multiple phones with the Ooma system. This is only partially correct. If you want to use scouts and the features they offer (have a 2nd or 3rd number ring in to a scout, etc) then yes, you would need a scout for each phone you want to use with Ooma. However, if you just want a "shared line" (like regular home telephone service) then you can simply plug your Ooma Hub into your home phone jack and plug in as many other phones as you want. This will prevent some of the advanced features from working, but will basically work like a Vonage system, etc. Obviously many people have multiple handset wireless systems these days so they will just plug their wireless base station into the Ooma Hub and use scouts for other phones.

4. Someone asked me the question if I work for Ooma since I've commented in many reviews. The answer is no, I don't work for Ooma but I am a very satisfied customer and a voice over IP engineer with 13 years of industry experience. Ooma is the best residential voice over IP system I've ever seen and I very much would like them to succeed and offer their superior service for decades to come. The only way this will happen is with strong word of mouth advertising from professionals such as myself! Help other customers find the most helpful reviews
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101 of 108 people found the following review helpful:
8+ Months of use and Loving It. Details below, August 17, 2008
By Tarun Chachra "Tarun Chachra" (Hillsborough, NJ) - See all my reviews


01/20/2009
QUICK NOTE: Jason M. Page has a great review above my review...you should read it also.

UPDATED 12/17/2008
We dropped DSL and moved OOMA's to Cable Modem Service...

ORIGINAL REVIEW:
Hello All,
I bought an OOMA about 8+ months ago with one scout (added a 2nd system later on). Here is our setup.
1. NO LANDLINE required.
2. Using with Cable Broadband on Comcast.
3. Two OOMA Hubs (personal and business) and 2 OOMA Scouts.
4. 2 x 2 Line Panasonic Cordless system to use dual line capabilities.
5. Wired into home wiring so as to avoid unsightly clutter of hardware.

FIRST SYSTEM (Personal Use):
The OOMA hub is plugged in to our Apple Extreme Basetation, out of sight out of mind. Gave the OOMA internet access through the router and voila...phone service is live. NO land line is required. I know OOMA says you can use your existing land line, but it is not a necessity to use this system. They will issue you a new number or port your number over if you do not have or want a land line.

We took line one of the OOMA hub (marked home) and wired it into our home wiring (line 1 - our home is wired for 2 lines)....again very easy and no problem - the phones in the house starting working at once.

Challenge - we have a 2line phone system - so how can you use OOMA with a two line system and use the 2 line features of OOMA.

Since line one was wired and working we needed to get line 2 wired. I took the line 2 out of the ooma hub (marked WALL), wired into home wiring (line 2 jack in the basement), and used the ooma scout to complete the phone line network this system creates.

Line one was already going into the panasonic, so the scout now allowed us to plug in line 2. Voila - 2 lines on a 2 line system with one scout and one telephone number. Its like call waiting on steroids.

NOTE: You can also get multiple numbers with different ring patterns to make this more effective.

The panasonic system has 4 handsets - so now no matter where we are we have a 2 line phone system without the need for more scouts.

The scout itself does everything the OOMA hub does in a small package....so its easy to put in the kitchen and or bedroom and have it look somewhat decent.

SECOND SYSTEM:
Simply used near a telephone in the basement/home office...no fancy setup...works great with a 2 line Panasonic System.

I hope this helps you in deciding to purchase this system. Please let it be known that I am a consumer...not affiliated with OOMA....I simply LOVE this product. I no longer have monthly bills and thus we have recovered the cost of this system already.

UPDATE 12/17/08
Still going strong. WE now have two ooma hubs and two scouts at home. One for personal use and one for business. Works great...no complaints yet. Our broadband is now all cable - about 10-12mbps down (comcast) and 1.5mbps up...sometimes more on down/up in burst mode.

OOMA has also added a bunch of new features for people on the premier plan...ie. community black lists. Basically a GREAT feature.....they have created a blacklist that is shared by all members so that we can all contribute to block useless telemarketing calls etc.....you send them directly to voicemail or block them all together. AWESOME!.

People have emailed me and asked if this system works for faxing....I dont know that I can answer that since I have not really tried sending/receiving faxes with it. Please do chime in and let us all know if it works.

I have also had questions about what I think of OOMA and the business model...while I do not know the specifics, I am not afraid of using it as there seems to be enough people contacting me about purchasing it...I feel that it will be around long enough for everyone to recover the cost of the system.

If you have specific questions, feel free to ask me via email at [email protected]. I will try and help....and just to be clear..I am not affiliated with OOMA at all....just a consumer via AMAZON!

QUICK NOTE: (THANKS DAVE)
It is important to understand that you should disconnect the wiring from the local telephone company coming into your house before you wire any VOIP device into your home wiring. Basically the phone company wiring carries current into your house and OOMA also outputs some level of current to your phone lines....too much could cause an issue.
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59 of 63 people found the following review helpful:
Amazing device!!!, July 17, 2008
By Steven (Virginia Beach, VA) - See all my reviews

I was a Vonage user for two years, and loved it; but how could I not try something which after 8 months would buy itself and would provide me free phone service, so I switched from Vonage to Ooma. The packaging for the device is fantastic: the device, packaging, and the manual looks like something Apple would make. The installation was very easy. Before you install the device, you need to go to Ooma website to activate the hub and setup a new phone number or transfer your current number. Everything is very simple. My choice was to pick a new number. I followed the simple instructions in the quick start guide. Ooma took about 2 minutes to go through initialization, and the device was up and running in no time. The voice quality is fantastic: to describe it, it's like having the person you are talking to on the phone standing next to you. It seems like the company has done its homework. The scout was easy to install as well: I just plugged it in a phone jack, and it automatically found the hub. The initialization took about a minute. I called Vonage to cancel, and they gave me 2 free months of unlimited calling. I used it to my advantage by automatically redirecting all of the calls from my old number to the new Ooma number for 2 months! You do not have to have a land line at all, which I think confuses some buyers. I am very pleased with my new service and would most definitely recommend it. Help other customers find the most helpful reviews
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122 of 141 people found the following review helpful:
Ooma Lies about Unlimited Minutes (They Are Limited, And There's a Fee), December 21, 2008
By J. Fisher - See all my reviews


In the terms and conditions for the ooma phone, it clearly states that you are limited to 3,000 minutes per month (which would be easy to go over with multiple family members using the same phone line):

"In addition you agree that any usage of more than 3,000 minutes per month will be deemed dispositive proof of Prohibited Use. In the event you engage in Prohibited Use, ooma reserves the right to terminate service without notice or, at ooma's sole discretion, to charge you at a rate specified on our Web site for calls that exceed the 3,000-minute per month limitation. This rate may be modified on our Web site from time to time."

See: [...]

However, everywhere else on the website says you get "unlimited" calls (without even an asterisk refering you to the terms and conditoins). To me this seems completely dishonest and misleading, to say nothing of false advertising.

Even in the ooma knowledge base where they explain "ooma Pricing Information" there is no mention of the 3,000 minute limit. "In order to make the ooma system affordable to as many customers as possible, we're now offering the ooma Hub for the one-time price of $249. This gets you unlimited US calling and bundled features with no monthly fees!" "Unlimited" is repeated everywhere on the website. Also, I cannot find anywhere on the website where they specifiy the fee you will be charged for going over 3,000 minutes. That's not really reassuring either.

ooma seems like an intriguing product. But it seems crazy to use a service, where you implicitly agree to pay a fee, even though you're told you get unlimited use, and then you don't even know what the fee is that you have been misled into agreeing to. Shame on ooma. Help other customers find the most helpful reviews
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66 of 75 people found the following review helpful:
Great "free" phone service: 3 - 5 stars, depending on configuration, September 8, 2008
By Debbie Lee Wesselmann (the Lehigh Valley, PA) - See all my reviews


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The Ooma Core offers the ability to use internet technology to talk over a real phone, at no charge within the entire US, to landlines and cell phones. You can move freely about the house with your ordinary cordless phone. All you need is a high-speed broadband connection and a phone.

I was terrified about making the plunge to switch from traditional phone to VOIP, so I spent much time researching the Ooma before I actually installed it. I was afraid that I'd be locked into a system that would make me change my phone number, would fail when the power or cable did, necessitate the purchase of a non-wireless phone, and would sound like a synthesized voice. Fortunately, Ooma offers a variety of configurations that allowed me to avoid all of the preceding.

Before you even begin to install the Ooma, you must make a choice about how you want to set it up: internet only versus through the land line; and using your home phone number versus selecting a new one. For a fee, you can choose to have your current number ported to your Ooma if you want to keep your current number and cancel your traditional service. (Ooma recommends waiting 6 weeks before canceling phone service because of the time it takes to transfer numbers.) Because you have to register your home address when you activate, Ooma supports enhanced 9-1-1.

Set-up, in the best possible circumstances, takes mere minutes, from internet activation (required) to hooking up the unit. The quick start menu is extremely clear and easy to follow. However, in the worst possible circumstances -- and this is what happened to me -- it may take days of head-scratching to find a way to make all the necessary connections possible. When I activated the hub, I chose to keep my home number and to use the Ooma through my land line so that I would still be able to make calls when the power and/or cable was out. What I didn't count on was the unique set-up in my house: few rooms have both phone jacks AND cable connections. Those rooms that do have both already have a television using the cable jack. Right now, I have a long telephone wire running across the floor of my bedroom, down the hall, and into the room that contains the cable modem. If I don't find a way to fix this or get extra phone jacks or cable outlets installed for a reasonable fee, the Ooma will be history. Ironically, a DSL hook-up is probably much easier than a cable one. If you have both a phone jack and open outlet near your cable modem, you'll be fine. Otherwise, you may want to choose your activation set-up to be internet-only.
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You MUST Be Joking!

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Good evening.
saxman wrote:I don't know if your aware of this but, when it comes to the ladies, you need time to get the ball rolling and with a bad connection, it's a waste of time.
This is very true. In fact, before the invention of the telephone, women had no reliable means of determining the sincerity of a man's intentions toward her. It really is about call quality.

Oh brother...
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Thanks Icompton-Really a shame your SO far away from the West Coast!-O well, we still have our phones right? You do have Ooma right?
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Nope, I'm A Skype Girl!

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Good evening, saxman.
saxman wrote:Thanks Icompton-Really a shame your SO far away from the West Coast!-O well, we still have our phones right? You do have Ooma right?
I regret that my sarcasm in that prior post appears to have been missed on you. In all of my years of discussing the men in our lives with my girlfriends, the subject of call quality has never come up once. I realize that's difficult to believe, but it's true.

Perhaps, one day, you may come to realize that many of us are less concerned about the call quality and more concerned with the sincerity in the words spoken by men -- regardless of whether or not the call quality is perfect or flawed.

I found your post misogynistic. You don't appear to give women enough credit for developing deep bonds with men choosing instead to suggest that we'll blow off a guy because of something as shallow as poor call quality. That's dumb.

On the other hand, your comment was most likely the result of a simple projection. In other words, if I had to guess, I would be willing to bet that you've dumped your share of women for shallow reasons over the years.

I'm not sure that I've ever been happier that I live so far from the West Coast. Oh, and no, I don't use Ooma. I'm a Skype girl these days. For me, returning to magicJack is not outside the realm of possibility, but it won't happen as long as there are call caps.
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Ouch- lol-sorry, but it was you that missed it. I love women, but just the ones that have good attitudes and not those that paractice pyscology without a license and throw out assumptions that have no truth to them. I would suggest you pull in your fangs and lighten up some. And try to know people a little before putting labels on them. It's so lame. Wonder why there's so many grumpy Magic Joke users out there? The ladies I know like to hear my voice, not blips and chirps and echos and clicking in the line. Now, this may be ok for you, but most people like to listen to a clear call when it rings. You may need to set your call standards a tad higher. Demand a clear line! lol (or not)
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I think Lisa invested more wisely - she bought a spelling and grammar checker! Unless, of course, she has the education and intelligence to do without them.
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You Probably Won't Believe It...

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Good evening, mberlant.
mberlant wrote:I think Lisa invested more wisely - she bought a spelling and grammar checker! Unless, of course, she has the education and intelligence to do without them.
I don't expect anyone to believe it, but I do not use grammar or spelling checkers.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I do need to finish sharpening my fangs...
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Your style indicates that you don't require those crutches.
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Post by saxman »

Yea-they are looking a bit dull. By the way , let me know if you want a good deal on another Magic Joke. I have two real cheap! You can give one to a friend and lose them as your friend really fast when they can't make out what your saying-lol
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How cheap, and how much time left on them? As outbound Asterisk trunks they work a treat.
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Re: Nope, I'm A Skype Girl!

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lcompton wrote:
saxman wrote:Thanks Icompton-Really a shame your SO far away from the West Coast!-O well, we still have our phones right? You do have Ooma right?
I regret that my sarcasm in that prior post appears to have been missed on you.
At least he didn't offer to show you his dongle. You must've missed that posting 3-4 weeks ago.

Frankly, I find it hard to believe "Saxman's" argument. I never thought the women behind those 976 numbers were so demanding. :)

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Yea-I know you guys down there in that stinkin hot desert pay a premium for women. I been there. But, ya see, I was blessed having been born with great looks and there's never been any money required. But I do like to show a woman the respect she deserves and that includes going the extra mile to make sure our phone conversations are super clear. I don't want to mistake echo and clicking for a panting and heavy breathing!

Magic Jerk will ruin a love life when the call fades and your looking like a real cheap fool for not getting a real phone. You, know, the kind that works everytime and actually allows you to speak and be spoken to without a barrage of white noise in the background. So, AZ-just how long have you been this tight with the buck? Don't your friend (s) deserve to really hear evrything your spewing or is it kind of like the way I read and absorb your worthless comments. In one ear and out the other.

As far as the post about the line sharing, If you look at that statement from the Ooma rep, it was written 2 years ago. I only posted the article for those wanting to see about the cost and the quality and security of the system. It's bullet proof and I have not had one problem with any calls-none-every call has been so clear, the person I was talking to sounded 2 ft. away. People I call are all making great comments on the big difference in the sound.

As a musician and comparing the two systems like amplifiers, Magic Jake is like playing through an old Silvertone amp while Ooma is a 6 ft. Marshall stack. Now, if you don't know what that all means. Google it. The difference is day and night!
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This is hillarious!!! It is Kenny G pimipin' Ooma now
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