can I install MJ dongleless on a PDA or pocket PC?

couch-potato · Post by **couch-potato** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:16 pm

Can I install MJ without the USB dongle and use it on a PDA or pocket PC with a wifi connection?

Are there any particular brands or models that work or don't work?

Such as....
iPod Touch
HP iPAQ
HTC Touch
Palm Tungsten
Dell Axim
Palm Pilot
Blackberry
etc.....

maine-iac · Post by **maine-iac** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 5:48 pm

Try it; let us know if it works.

couch-potato · Post by **couch-potato** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:10 pm

I haven't bought the thing yet, I'd like to know if it works before I buy it, so I know which one to buy.

murphy · Post by **murphy** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:24 pm

You can eliminate any that don't have a built-in microphone or an input jack. Without that you can't talk to anyone.

mberlant · Post by **mberlant** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:52 pm

You need to be sure that the device you buy has VoIP client software (that uses the SIP protocol) available.

couch-potato · Post by **couch-potato** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:02 am

Many of these have very limited memory storage. How much hard drive space does the MJ take?

Also, when installing the MJ dongleless - is it necessary to first install the dongle, then copy the necessary files, then remove the donlge? If so, many of these devices do not have a full-size USB-port. How would I install the files? Many of them have SD card expansion slots. Could I copy the MJ files from the dongle to a SD card?

couch-potato · Post by **couch-potato** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 2:48 pm

Any thoughts on these?

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crackerjack · Post by **crackerjack** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:25 pm

I think a lot of the responses to this thread have sorely missed the point of your original question.
Since no PDA readily available runs Win XP or Vista, they summarily fail the requirements called for by the MJ hardware. Have never seen a current model PDA with a full sized USB port....Strike two

About your only means to use the calling functionality of the MJ service is to grab your SIP credentials and use them to properly configure a softphone supported the OS of your PDA. If you are using a Windows Mobile 5 or 6 device, look at Express Talk from http://www.nch.com.au/components/ptalksetup.exe

BEWARE most voip applications fail miserably using EDGE/3G/EVDO broadband due to significant latency inherent in these networks. WiFi or direct connect should be fine

couch-potato · Post by **couch-potato** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:33 pm

Ahhhh....... that explains it.

Windows Mobile won't run MagicJack.

Thanks for your input.

I guess I could still try with the SIP credentials, but that is a whole different ball game.

mberlant · Post by **mberlant** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:35 pm

I had already jumped to the "SIP credentials with softphone" scenario when I made my previous comment. I apologize if this was not clear.

steve_togo · Post by **steve_togo** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:56 am

couch-potato wrote:Any thoughts on these?

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I do have the 770, It is a cool little device but I dont see any practical application for it anymore. It does have a Gizmo Project client and If you want to run MJ you need to find a SIP client... But using it that way is against the TOS. As per the TOS u have to use the MJ client... Again speaking the 770 is nothing but a wifi capable device with limited processing power. I would suggest getting the newer models or even an Ipodtouch

padams · Post by **padams** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:56 pm

I believe all Windows Mobile 5 or higher devices have a SIP client built-in.

If the SIP part has been deliberatly removed - there are tools on the 'net to upgraded your device & re-add the software.

Also - the Nokia S60 OS phones have a native SIP client built in. I've got a Nokia N95 8GB and it can use WiFi & connect to Asterisk with no issues. Makes calls right from the standard 'phone' interface, looks & acts the same as using a cellular service.

If I had an MJ account - I could test it with the phone - just lurking trying to decide to get one for use with my Asterisk box.

Granted - that's not a PDA & that's what the original question was about - but a lot of 'smart phones' are more PDA then phone now - so getting one of these & not using the cell function might be a better option then a PDA.

Hope this helps...

Paul

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