pap2 up for months but now wont connect

srvctek · Post by **srvctek** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:53 am

Im sure a few people smarter than us are working hard on figuring this out, I bought 6 years of service which isnt worth it to me if I have to use a dongle (In which I won't) Im just gonna be patient for a bit. Im wondering if these utilities are giving us false passwords? Maybe they changed the encryption? Just a thought...

anvil · Post by **anvil** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:20 am

srvctek wrote:Im sure a few people smarter than us are working hard on figuring this out, I bought 6 years of service which isnt worth it to me if I have to use a dongle (In which I won't) Im just gonna be patient for a bit. Im wondering if these utilities are giving us false passwords? Maybe they changed the encryption? Just a thought...

I used the "tools" and got my new password, I get registered and inbound calls but cannot make outbound calls.

I am running on asterisk, not a PAP2.

j1sjeep · Post by **j1sjeep** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:45 am

srvctek wrote:Im sure a few people smarter than us are working hard on figuring this out, I bought 6 years of service which isnt worth it to me if I have to use a dongle (In which I won't) Im just gonna be patient for a bit. Im wondering if these utilities are giving us false passwords? Maybe they changed the encryption? Just a thought...

Nope. If that was the case, ATA wouldn't register and you couldn't get inbound calls. Wondering if they didn't do something with the dial plan on their end (and within the client)...

dandruff · Post by **dandruff** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:49 am

EDIT : UPDATE

spoke too soon , i guess ... now I am registering but fast busy tone

arghhhh
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OLD POST BELOW :

i also used the stroth tools 1.6 and got a new pwd and a new user agent string ... so now mine works outgoing ... for incoming i just enabled call fwd to my cell phone thru MJ ... so in essence for me its working in and out ...

all my settings are exactly the same as kumar's except my dialplan is:
(*xx|[3469]11|0|00|<:1555>[2-9]xxxxxx|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|<:1>xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxxxxxx.)
where 555= my area code.

my proxy always had a 01 (my account is only 2 weeks old).
unlocked linksys spa2102-r1 (5.2.5)

maybe mine is working since i am in the 30 day period ?? or that I prepaid credit $5 for international longdistance (and they think I am potential income in the long run that way??)

just my 2 cents ... hth!

j1sjeep · Post by **j1sjeep** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:32 am

dandruff wrote:i also used the stroth tools 1.6 and got a new pwd and a new user agent string ... so now mine works outgoing ... for incoming i just enabled call fwd to my cell phone thru MJ ... so in essence for me its working in and out ...

all my settings are exactly the same as kumar's except my dialplan is:
(*xx|[3469]11|0|00|<:1555>[2-9]xxxxxx|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|<:1>xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxxxxxx.)
where 555= my area code.

my proxy always had a 01 (my account is only 2 weeks old).
unlocked linksys spa2102-r1 (5.2.5)

maybe mine is working since i am in the 30 day period ?? or that I prepaid credit $5 for international longdistance (and they think I am potential income in the long run that way??)

just my 2 cents ... hth!

I doubt this has anything to do with age of the account. It would be silly for them to administer more than one user store based on when someone signed up... Now, I could see them doing it on a regional (area codes, geographic), but that doesn't seem to hold water either with the spottiness of the people who are still working.

The new DNS entries lead me to believe they might be prepping for or rolling an upgrade to their infrastructure. Perhaps the ATA's that are still functioning are on old servers??

Has anyone checked to see if they're doing DNS round robin?

Are you just getting a fast busy when trying to place a call?

UncleRunkle · Post by **UncleRunkle** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:53 am

You make a good point j1sjeep. I am trying to connect to proxy01.chicago.talk4free.com:5070, but no go on my RTP300. If I remember right, I used to connect to proxy.chicago.talk4free.com:5070 before the update.

I will also be trying to pull some wireshark info from both my router and the magicjack to compare and see the differences.

j1sjeep · Post by **j1sjeep** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:37 pm

UncleRunkle wrote:You make a good point j1sjeep. I am trying to connect to proxy01.chicago.talk4free.com:5070, but no go on my RTP300. If I remember right, I used to connect to proxy.chicago.talk4free.com:5070 before the update.

I will also be trying to pull some wireshark info from both my router and the magicjack to compare and see the differences.

@UncleRunkle, what happens if you try proxy2.chicago.talk4free.com?

marinemaster · Post by **marinemaster** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:43 pm

About 2 months ago I got home and MJ was down. I pulled the credentials and the proxy changed to proxy01. Again this was 2 months ago. It worked then, it does not work now.

j1sjeep · Post by **j1sjeep** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:46 pm

marinemaster wrote:About 2 months ago I got home and MJ was down. I pulled the credentials and the proxy changed to proxy01. Again this was 2 months ago. It worked then, it does not work now.

Did it resolve to the same address? Also, I think my pw reset 2 months ago, I did not change DNS at that time.

marinemaster · Post by **marinemaster** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:49 pm

Yes, same IP address.

j1sjeep · Post by **j1sjeep** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:55 pm

marinemaster wrote:Yes, same IP address.

So, right now, what can you do, not do, and what symptoms?

marinemaster · Post by **marinemaster** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:57 pm

What I have done so far, does not work.

1) Changed password
2) Changed agent version
3) Changed register to 0
4) Add domain talk4free.com

I get dialtone, cannot dial in or out.

UncleRunkle · Post by **UncleRunkle** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:12 pm

j1sjeep wrote:
UncleRunkle wrote:You make a good point j1sjeep. I am trying to connect to proxy01.chicago.talk4free.com:5070, but no go on my RTP300. If I remember right, I used to connect to proxy.chicago.talk4free.com:5070 before the update.

I will also be trying to pull some wireshark info from both my router and the magicjack to compare and see the differences.
@UncleRunkle, what happens if you try proxy2.chicago.talk4free.com?

Put that for the proxy in my RTP300, and looked at wireshark and got no replies. I am assuming that proxy2.chicago.talk4free.com (216.234.69.9) is not alive.

Pinging proxy02.chicago.talk4free.com [216.234.69.9] with 32 bytes of data:
Request timed out.

Pinging proxy01.chicago.talk4free.com [216.234.69.8] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 216.234.69.8: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=50

BTW, proxy01 and proxy02 are interchangeable with proxy1 and proxy2.

fmflex · Post by **fmflex** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:19 pm

I have 2 MJ running on a PAP2 ATA. One was activated end of April or beginning of May and one was activated end of May beginning of June. I did not do any updates. Both are dialing in and out. I'm on the Chicago proxy and I used this to set up my ATA (http://rapidshare.com/files/208210096/PAP2TMJ.config) which is what I found on this forum. I have had my ATA activated only for like 2 weeks. Hope this helps.

j1sjeep · Post by **j1sjeep** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:21 pm

"Lucky You" How long did the update take? I didn't watch mine.

I have an idea that might be worth dropping $40 on to determine if it's something in the sw... It might prevent us from chasing our tails...

marinemaster · Post by **marinemaster** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:27 pm

From the posts here asterix and even cisco gear are not working either. We are yet to determine if is hardware related or not.

j1sjeep · Post by **j1sjeep** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 3:37 pm

marinemaster wrote:From the posts here asterix and even cisco gear are not working either. We are yet to determine if is hardware related or not.

Actually, I meant buying another MJ to watch what happens before and during the update.

tdave00 · Post by **tdave00** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:11 pm

I was able to use WireShark and see the sip traffic when I turned on my Magic Jack USB thing, but how would you use WireShark to see what the PAP2 is doing? I want to compare the two.

Poo619 · Post by **Poo619** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:17 pm

I used wireshark for the first time the other day to see if anything made sense when the MJ was trying to register. From my novice eyes, I did notice that when it tries to register, it makes 2 attempts. The first time gives you a 400 error not authorized however the second attempt connects. I also seem to remember getting the same result when making a call. The first attempt gives an unauthorized message followed by a second attempt and it connects successfully. Leads me to believe that the MJ is now programmed to make 2 attempts. The server is rejecting the first one by code but the second one is already on the way is is accepted. This would explain why setting your reg time to 0 would allow you to register (at least in my mind) It would also explain why you get the fast busy sound when you make a call. The ata tries to call, MJ responds unauthorized, the ATA then busy signals you without retrying. Again everything I posted above is simply speculation and going by what I read on my first wireshark capture. Comments?

pancho1950 · Post by **pancho1950** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 4:17 pm

tdave00 wrote:I was able to use WireShark and see the sip traffic when I turned on my Magic Jack USB thing, but how would you use WireShark to see what the PAP2 is doing? I want to compare the two.

conct it trough the computer with a croos cable and allow the computr to conect it ti the internet

tdave00 · Post by **tdave00** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:13 pm

pancho1950 wrote:
tdave00 wrote:I was able to use WireShark and see the sip traffic when I turned on my Magic Jack USB thing, but how would you use WireShark to see what the PAP2 is doing? I want to compare the two.
conct it trough the computer with a croos cable and allow the computr to conect it ti the internet

Thanks.

Makes sense.

dallasib1485 · Post by **dallasib1485** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:22 pm

My ATA also died two days ago. Tried all the suggestions in the posts but non work. I have never sniffed the traffic from the magic jack before because I never needed to, but has anybody seen User-Agent: ENSR2.5.47.0-IS28-RMRG0-RG900-EP1395802 before? there is only 1 sip packet that contains this after the registration, it is in the status 200 packet after the last register request. Also, has anybody seen the Realm of stratus.com before and was the nonce value always in sip requests before? I sure wish I would have sniffed traffic before so i could compare.

pancho1950 · Post by **pancho1950** » Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:22 pm

tdave00 wrote:
pancho1950 wrote:
tdave00 wrote:I was able to use WireShark and see the sip traffic when I turned on my Magic Jack USB thing, but how would you use WireShark to see what the PAP2 is doing? I want to compare the two.
conct it trough the computer with a croos cable and allow the computr to conect it ti the internet
Thanks.

Makes sense.

With the cross cable in order to communicate to pap2 do the following

Then, enter the IVR again, and assign static IP settings to the PAP2T through the following series of IVR commands:

1) 101#0# 1 - Selects static IP settings (disables DHCP)
2) 111#192*168*1*100# 1 - Replace the given IP with whatever IP
address will be consistent with your
LANs addressing, and not conflict with any
other device's IP.
3) 121#255*255*255*0# 1
4) 131#192*168*1*1# 1 - Replace this IP with your router's LAN
side IP address.

tdave00 · Post by **tdave00** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 3:26 am

dallasib1485 wrote:My ATA also died two days ago. Tried all the suggestions in the posts but non work. I have never sniffed the traffic from the magic jack before because I never needed to, but has anybody seen User-Agent: ENSR2.5.47.0-IS28-RMRG0-RG900-EP1395802 before? there is only 1 sip packet that contains this after the registration, it is in the status 200 packet after the last register request. Also, has anybody seen the Realm of stratus.com before and was the nonce value always in sip requests before? I sure wish I would have sniffed traffic before so i could compare.

I noticed that user-agent too, but I am pretty sure that is their user-agent that is sending the packet. Look at the source and destination of the packet. That user-agent only shows up when I got a packet coming from 67.90.152.70 (I show 3 status 200 packets and it's in every one of those.). When I sent the packet to 67.90.152.70 the user agent was always MagicJack/1.80.484a (SJ Labs).

I can't comment on the realm and nonce value, but I am pretty sure that's normal authentication stuff.

I notice that my MJ USB thing sent 4 request packets. The first was denied. It then sent another request and then it registered. After it was registered it sent two more requests.

I have never looked at the packets before this either so I don't have anything to compare it to. Hope someone smarter than me figures this out.

doctorman · Post by **doctorman** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 6:44 am

I guess i will go with a skype device not sure what yet
or get a thin client for magicjack

thin clients are working reliably no?

McKite · Post by **McKite** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:19 pm

This is what I chatted about with a represantative at mj today:

Jillian: Hello, how may I help you?

Kris: Hello, I saw the adds and was wondering if I can also use the magicjack with my existing voip-adapter without having to have my pc running?

Jillian: No Kris. MagicJack will only work if you have a computer on with Internet connection.

Kris: So, is it planned in the future? I read some articles about a byod sometime in this year?

Jillian: Yes, they are still working on it, but no exact time frame.

Kris: And pricing would be the same, or will there be a fee added for that use? I heard about a poor static quality of voice with the actual usb-dongle...

Kris: Or is that more a question of the system that mj is running on?

Jillian: Yes, the voice quality depends on the internet connection you have.

Jillian: The price of the magicJack for the first year of service is $39.95 and that includes the device and whole year service to free call US and Canada, and the price of the next year's extension is $19.95 thereof.

Kris: Well ok. Thanks.. If you can do anything to accelarate the process of mj on any voip-adapter, that would be awesome. I would definitly go for several accounts. But that dongle alone? Not so much...

Kris: I am sure, that a lot of people would use it on iphones, ipods or any device. That would triple your sales...

Jillian: I understands that, Kris. Our engineers are still working on some of the updates and upgrades on our system to offer more feature in the near future.

Kris: Anyways, thanks a lot for your information. I will still wait a bit until i purchase some devices. Greets.

Jillian: Okay, thanks too.

What does that tell? Actually nothing! I would willingly pay something like an "unlock-fee" to have it work with any ata or voip adapter.

Mayby we should make something like a petition and inform Dan about how many people would go for his service once it is opened up for any device. I am sure the number of people signing this would be huge. Not speaking of those who didn't buy mj yet, cause it is banned to that freaking dongle...

doctorman · Post by **doctorman** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 4:29 pm

yeah sure a petition form major hackers of his product would work great,...

he is making money from the softphone so sell your ata and get thin client

I should have couple extra in the next week or so again.

grillovillegas · Post by **grillovillegas** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:33 pm

Hi

i never update a MJ that i bought 2 weeks ago
and it sitlls working

on the same ata another mj that i have about the same time
maybe 3 weeks its not working

i dont understand !!!

fmflex · Post by **fmflex** » Fri Jun 12, 2009 9:58 pm

I have 2 MJ running on a pap2. 1 was bought like 2 weeks ago and one was bought like a month and a half ago. Neither updated and both are working, but only on an 11 digit dial plan not 10. Im using a Chicago proxy

braveheart7628 · Post by **braveheart7628** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:47 am

i have 3 magic jacks with numbers: *******514,*******513,*******507

i noticed that *******507 was blocked which was working on pap2 but the other 2, its sip info are the same where i did not use this 2 on pap2.
notice that all the 3 MJ were registered in the same day, so i guess there is scan on the accounts or something which make them know the account which is working on ata. just writing my observation , may be it helps

grillovillegas · Post by **grillovillegas** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:47 am

Yes same happen here have two MJ one was in the ATA
allways and thats the one that its not working now ....
the other was laying around there and now when i connect
to the ata it works perfect no updates no nothing.

fmflex · Post by **fmflex** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:07 am

It seems that those MJ that were on an ATA around the time of the "update" no longer work on an ATA, but those that were not hooked up thru an ATA are still working on an ATA. Like mine was not plugged in during the time of the update and both still work on an ATA and didn't require any "updates". Could they have somehow pinged us to see which ones were on an ATA (during the update?) and shut those out? Something to think about.

ashvee · Post by **ashvee** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:32 pm

Dan borislow iis spending lot of money to stop people from using ATA. He should have improved the quality of sound in MJ dongle .

If Mj doesnt allow people to use in ATA . he will loose lot of customers.

jerrybas · Post by **jerrybas** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:47 pm

linksys spa3102 not working anymore. when i plugged mj into usb, it upgraded to new version. after the upgrade it asked me to re-register (asked for email and password) methinks that's the time i should have run stroths mj utils or wireshark to reveal the real password???? how about downgrading mj and upgrading again to see if this is the crucial time something big is changed??? calling all experts i am a newbie

Stryker · Post by **Stryker** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 6:23 pm

fmflex wrote:It seems that those MJ that were on an ATA around the time of the "update" no longer work on an ATA, but those that were not hooked up thru an ATA are still working on an ATA. Like mine was not plugged in during the time of the update and both still work on an ATA and didn't require any "updates". Could they have somehow pinged us to see which ones were on an ATA (during the update?) and shut those out? Something to think about.

Nah, I just bought one and it was never on ATA and took update and did the same thing. Can't register properly with MJ. So thats not it either but keep trying, I am hoping somebody figures this out.

Stryker

srvctek · Post by **srvctek** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:07 pm

Well...I have two dongles, one has almost six years of service left so anyways I cant see myself being tied to the dongle so I just ordered a thin client from ebay, its the next best thing until or if my magicPap works again.

j1sjeep · Post by **j1sjeep** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 9:24 pm

domingo wrote:
jerrybas wrote:linksys spa3102 not working anymore. when i plugged mj into usb, it upgraded to new version. after the upgrade it asked me to re-register (asked for email and password) methinks that's the time i should have run stroths mj utils or wireshark to reveal the real password???? how about downgrading mj and upgrading again to see if this is the crucial time something big is changed??? calling all experts i am a newbie
I just bought a brand new mj ( damn $40 now , bastards ) and signed it up like normal put it on my account mj #3 now and it won't get on the network on an ata , when it upgraded it never asked me to verify , the ones that did work fine on an ata.

any one have another mj I can take a look at remotely during the activation ?

I have a virgin. I haven't had time to plug it in to watch the process. Trying to figure out the update process. I'd like to see if I can get a pw prior to the update then interrupt the update process.

fmflex · Post by **fmflex** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:14 pm

MEDIC!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm down. They finally got me. LOL That's ok seems like we'll have this shit up and running by Monday. Funny how the morons at MJ have to spend lots of money and energy to lock us out and for what. A week? They'd be better off to just to let it go and charge us for it then at least we'd go peacefully. With this bs all they are doing is pissing people off and they'll either leave or fight back. And figuring out workarounds doesn't cost us anything other then some time, while they will have to continue to spend money to figure out ways to play this cat and mouse game. MJ is fighting an uphill battle. They either need to change their business plan or they'll be gone by this time next year. Watch.

dallasib1485 · Post by **dallasib1485** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:06 pm

fmflex wrote:MEDIC!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm down. They finally got me. LOL That's ok seems like we'll have this shit up and running by Monday. Funny how the morons at MJ have to spend lots of money and energy to lock us out and for what. A week? They'd be better off to just to let it go and charge us for it then at least we'd go peacefully. With this bs all they are doing is pissing people off and they'll either leave or fight back. And figuring out workarounds doesn't cost us anything other then some time, while they will have to continue to spend money to figure out ways to play this cat and mouse game. MJ is fighting an uphill battle. They either need to change their business plan or they'll be gone by this time next year. Watch.

I agree, I think it is very foolish for Dan to piss off his biggest fans. He should just charge us a few more bucks and allow us to use our ata's instead of his crappy dongle. If we cant get this working I will leave magic jack and will never be back, I will also take all my family that uses them along with me and will never recommend another magic jack to anyone.

snowman53 · Post by **snowman53** » Sat Jun 13, 2009 11:18 pm

And go where? I have not found any service that can remotely match the value of MJ.

I too have been blocked from using my software phone solution & am not happy about it. But even if I have to use the dongle, it's a great value.

fmflex · Post by **fmflex** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:29 am

Phone Power offers a 2 line service for 2 years for $200. Now if you compare that to MJ. 2 Doogles $90 + 2 second year renewals $40 + Electricity cost for running your computer 24/7 $5/month (on the low end, could be as high as 10 depending on where you live, mine is 8 ) 120 = TOTAL cost for 2 years for MJ is $ 250. $50 dollars more for MJ. Not mention shit quality, computer ware and tare, and being tied down to your pc. Ok so you are saying well you have to put up 200 all at once as supposed to over time. Ok. Then take their 2 year contract price of 15/month. That's 360 for 2 years. MJ we figured was 250. That's 110 less for MJ. Or 4.58 per month in difference over the 2 years. Forget the computer ware and tare or higher electricity costs depending on where you live, or even the quality of service. I'll pay 4.58 more per month on principle alone. Oh and you can port your number for free. Without the ATA Dan is left sitting alone in the dark wondering what just happened.

doctorman · Post by **doctorman** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:35 am

ooma
almost 200$ nice device no computer needed
perfect quality
at least free for 3 years
unlimitted calls to US (really 3000min per month) but mj kills if you use anything close to 2000min per month so ooma still better

the only thing that MJ has better is calls to canada which is really not that needed for 90% of users specially with their quality of calls.

in our life we always pay for convenience and quality specially living in america. MJ is a toy compared to other voips.

braveheart7628 · Post by **braveheart7628** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:12 am

hi guys
check this site: http://www.smartvoip.com/en/
for 10 euros, you get free calls to many countries including usa and canada for 120 days (300 min per week) without loosing your credit , after 120 days, you pay 1 cent per min which is enough for 1 or 2 more months tota period is about 6 month so the whole year will be for 20 euros. thats the best solution i can find now.
also you are invited to join my facebook group where i offer free sip calls on my server where yu can use it on pap2 or mobile or pc.

braveheart7628 · Post by **braveheart7628** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:25 am

hi guys
check this site: http://www.smartvoip.com/en/
for 10 euros, you get free calls to many countries including usa and canada for 120 days (300 min per week) without loosing your credit , after 120 days, you pay 1 cent per min which is enough for 1 or 2 more months tota period is about 6 month so the whole year will be for 20 euros. thats the best solution i can find now.
also you are invited to join my facebook group where i offer free sip calls on my server where yu can use it on pap2 or mobile or pc.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=104384556095

dallasib1485 · Post by **dallasib1485** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 9:12 am

snowman53 wrote:And go where? I have not found any service that can remotely match the value of MJ.

I too have been blocked from using my software phone solution & am not happy about it. But even if I have to use the dongle, it's a great value.

There are plenty of other sip providers out there that can compete with magic jack. some will be a bit more expensive, but like i said before most of us would be willing to pay a little more to be able to use our ata's. That usb dongle always has problems, sound quality sucks using that thing plus you always have to have a computer on to use it. So if i have to pay more with another sip provider to get a quality service, i will.

anant · Post by **anant** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:55 am

Hi Folks:

Has anyone tried Gizmo5 phone with an ATA?. I have been using with Innomedia MTA6328 and PAP2. The sound quality looks reasonable. This requires no computer. You can hook to the router. Free incoming calls and Outgoing calls 1.9 cents/minute. You can connect regular telephone. Any comments ?

Anon · Post by **Anon** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:47 am

braveheart7628 wrote:hi guys
check this site: http://www.smartvoip.com/en/
for 10 euros, you get free calls to many countries including usa and canada for 120 days (300 min per week) without loosing your credit , after 120 days, you pay 1 cent per min which is enough for 1 or 2 more months tota period is about 6 month so the whole year will be for 20 euros. thats the best solution i can find now.
also you are invited to join my facebook group where i offer free sip calls on my server where yu can use it on pap2 or mobile or pc.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=104384556095

Does smartvoip give you a telephone number for incoming landline calls?

I have it loaded in my router and working now, but haven't found anything on getting a telephone number for it.

braveheart7628 · Post by **braveheart7628** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 11:54 am

there are many DID providers where you can get usa number or in any other place . if someone know a site for free usa number or any other place, please post.

testing123 · Post by **testing123** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:04 pm

braveheart7628 wrote:there are many DID providers where you can get usa number or in any other place . if someone know a site for free usa number or any other place, please post.

Some voip provider options are posted here. IIRC some include free DID besides Gizmo+GrandCentral (now GoogleVoice).

grillovillegas · Post by **grillovillegas** » Sun Jun 14, 2009 12:07 pm

Certificates ??????????????? read the other post seems to be the solution ?

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