MAGICBEANS™ - More Magic For Your Jack™ - The Original

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Looking to Disable magicJack ™ Voicemail ... or add loads of features?

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After Installing & Purchasing/Licensing,
Right-Click on Tray Icon to get Started.
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If you like it, spread the word!
If you don't, let me know!


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FINAL* Pre-Public Beta Release
Date-Time: 2009/09/22 - 01:52:19 AM
(See further down for Details on Releases & Beta Testing)

"SO YOU THINK YOU CAN BETA TEST?"
See Bottom of this Post...
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This post is about a magicJack™ feature-enhancement application
called MagicBeans™ which adds the following features to the
magicJack™ experience, and improves on others.

Current Features:
"Call-Controls":
Block Incoming Calls (based on CallerID):
...Uses Filters ("RegEx Wildcards")
...Options To:
......-Terminate Blocked Call (Blocked Caller Just Gets Fast Busy - No Vmail)
......-Immediate Send of Blocked Caller to VMail
Active/Online Call-Forwarding vs. MJ's Passive/Offline Call-Forwarding:
...Allows for separate Busy, No-Answer and UnConditional Settings
...Allows for International Number Usage for ALL Settings (*Untested* as of yet)
Do Not Disturb (Immediate Send to VMail)
Auto-Respond to Incoming
Reject ALL Anonymous Calls (Independent Of "Block via CallerID" Setting)
Tray-Icon Indicators (Color-Coded to show current effective Call-Control)

"Ring-Duration Controls":
For your magicJack ™ Disable Voicemail by extending the rings
...Ring Duration OFF - magicJack™ OOB Ring (4 rings then send to VMail)
...STD Ring Duration (0 to 4 rings (limited by MJ's VMail pickup))
...EXT Ring Duration (3, 6, 9, 12, 15 and Infinite Rings) w/ Call Log Auto-Cleanup

"User Interface":
CPU-Priority Auto-Set (of MJ's process)...improve performance.
Set Default Tab (ie: Calls, Contacts, Favorites)
Settings for Show/Hide (On Idle & On Incoming)
"Hide" Transparency Level Setting
Settings for Maximize/Minimize (On Idle & On Incoming)
Set "Always On Top" (ie: top-most window)
Show No Ads (likely will replace with controls which will "dock" here)
Show "Block" [Callers] Button vs. MJ Buttons (top-right buttons)
Save Settings on Exit
Save MJ's Screen Position (Automatic)
Stop/Start/Reboot MJ (without having to unplug-replug (USUALLY )),
"Shoot" Number From Call List into CallerID Block Automatically
Hourly Auto-Sync Computer Clock with "Atomic" Time Servers
Hot-keys to Keep Focus On Other Application (& Maximize It's Client Area)
Auto-Update Capability & Manual Check for Updates
...Updates are "Prioritized" and Download/Install process varies by priority
...Update Process has capability to maintain Multiple Major-Versions on same machine & handles Beta Versioning
...Updates are/will always be Free


Future Features:
Auto-Remove Rejected calls from the Call List,
Auto-Remove Non-Rejected Calls from same,
Auto-Add Non-Rejected Calls to the Contacts List,
Attempt Immediate Auto-Redial to Rejected Numbers "n" times (ie: Spam Them Back),
Auto-Redial Manual Calls that Fail "n" times,
Setup "Call-Control" Scheduled times (24 hr clock),
and Much, Much MORE...don't want to give away the best secrets.


I planned to post MagicBeans™ here, but found that file hosting was not
available. After some consternation, I decided it was best to make it a
commercial product, which ultimately allows it to become a much higher-caliber
application with commercial support, expectations, and results.

Anyone with serious established marketing channels for such a product
may inquire about a marketing/sales partnership. The software is
capable of handling 3rd-party sales. The software will get wide
exposure to existing and new MJ customers.

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Latest Release* & Beta Test Info
(See This Section)
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*Current Status - NO Current BETA Releases:

Beta Program is Not Active at the moment.
If You Have Any Issues, Let Me Know (via Phone Preferred)

Previous Mods:
-Completed Entirely Automated-Install/Auto-Update Capabilities
-Added Multi-Monitor Support
-Enhanced "About" Screen
-Installs Users' Guide (Not Completed)
-Modified "Block via CallerID" to have Options to:
...-Terminate Blocked Call (Blocked Caller Just Gets Fast Busy - No Vmail)
...-Immediate Send of Blocked Caller to VMail
-Enhanced Visual Organization & Nicer Icons
-Added Beta Versioning Capability to Update System
-Added Auto-Update capabilities & Manual Check-for-Updates (by Major Version [or All])
-Added ability to maintain Multiple Major-Versions on same machine
-Added "Splash" screen (sort of) to let know it's loading (especially when auto-starting magicJack™)
-Beefed-up MagicBeans™ auto-start of magicJack™ & start-up "Collision" prevention
-Added "infrastructure" code.
-Added Beefed-up MJ display-state enforcement code
-Added Color-Coded Call-Control tray icon indicators:
..."MagicBean Gold" = OFF
..."Durian Green" = DND
..."Blueberry Blue" = BLOCK (via CallerID)
..."Plum Purple" = Auto-Answer
..."Fuchia (vs. Fig)" = Forward Calls

-Added Beefed-up Ring-Duration Controls. There are two varieties (plus OFF).
In general, both work only with Call-Controls that are not forwarding,
answering or sending calls to voicemail on their own. Under some
logical situations, that is not entirely true, and you can 'tune' the timing
to your liking.
The two types of Ring-Duration Control (plus OFF) are:
STD - Generally controls ringing at and under 4 rings.
IS Compatible with:
...Call-Forward-No-Answer (if tuned right), Block-via-CID and Call-Control-Off.
IS NOT Compatible with:
...Auto-Answer.
EXT - Generally controls ringing at 3, 6, 9, 12, 15 & infinite rings.
It removes generated excess Call Log entries automatically.
IS Compatible with:
...Call-Control-Off, Block-via-CID and (when set with Phone# <> MJ#)
Call-Forward-Unconditional (ONLY).
IS NOT compatible with:
...Call-Forward-Busy or Call-Forward-No-Answer.
OFF - Ring-Duration Control "OFF" setting is the equivalent of magicJack™'s
Out-Of-Box [OOB] Ring-Duration Control (4-rings -> Go To VMail).

(Earlier) Previous Versions/Mods:
*Added two hotkeys, <ctrl-]> and <ctrl-win-]>.
..........<ctrl-]> toggles the current focus-window to be top-most (always-on-top), or not.
..........<ctrl-win-]> toggles the same, PLUS it attempts to maximize the client area of the window to the desktop dimensions.
..........Again, this is a toggle function, so the second time it restores to original position & removes top-most designation
.....Fixed Installer bug that caused problems Installing unless Startup menu shortcuts were omitted
.....Re-fixed 'boot twice on startup error'
Fixed program hang on-exit bug,
.....Added Option to Hourly Auto-Sync your System Clock with Atomic Clocks (Also at Startup or when Set "on")
..Also, Installer:
.....fixed MJ attempting to boot twice on startup
.....MB hotkey changed from "ctrl-b" to "ctrl-m-b" to not conflict with Firefox bookmarks hotkey

NOTES TO BETA TESTERS (2009/06/21):
http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/post41905.html#41905
http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/post42673.html#42673

Right now just play around to see how things work. Don't have
any instructs just yet, so just ask if you have any questions.
One note of explanation:
You'll see phone numbers displayed to the right of the various
Call-Forward number input fields. These are the actual settings stored
within the magicJack unit. You can set values (even the selection
check-boxes) and they do not become active until
#1 - the selection check-box(es) to the left are checked; AND
#2 - the Call-Control Slider is in the "Call Forward" position

Also, you'll want to UnInstall (using the UnInstaller) the prior version,
and be sure to UNCheck the "Save Settings" check-box. This will clean-up
the registry for all the changes I've made. If you want to save your
"CallerID Blocks" (Filter file), this is the post to look at:
http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/post43509.html#43509
Additionally, the previous "Hide Buttons" check-box is now the
"Show 'Block' Button" check-box and their functions are mutually
exclusive (thanks to the new MJ update).

Hope you like! Let me know what you think...


"SO YOU THINK YOU CAN BETA TEST?"
(aka: Interested in becoming a beta tester?)
*NOTE - NO Current BETA Releases:

Beta Program is Not Active at the moment.
If You Have Any Issues, Let Me Know (via Phone Preferred)

To become a beta tester, you need a MJ & MS Windows. Also, you need to supply
some info, in this format:

1 - Machine Info (CPU/Memory/Model # or Motherboard)
2 - OS Info (Windows version/build/service pack)
3 - The email address you'll use for registration (should be an address you plan to keep permanently)
4 - Your real name, and your phone number for easier support and if the need arises.

Once you email or PM this to me (see link in my Sig [below]),
I'll forward you the beta testing info & site to download from.
The beta software is limited to 15-days, but you can continue testing through the beta period
by re-downloading the latest version, uninstalling the older version (being sure to un-check
the "Retain Settings" checkbox), and then re-installing the new one.

Thanks for your interest in MagicBeans™ !

-vdot

[scorpio1029]

Hi,
Just curious does MJ expose and API to program it ? If not how did you program it.

Thanks
Raj

[vdot]

Hi,
Just curious does MJ expose and API to program it ? If not how did you program it.

Thanks
Raj

Not documented, but I have a tool I wrote that allows me to expose all
the control and window data which allows me some access. I also
have deduced (sp?) some things about how MJ is working, plus MJ
originates from TigerJet linage, so you can get a lot of info from
their API. I'm working with the philosophy of not replacing MJ functionality
(whenever possible), but just adding needed capabilities in a package
that runs unobtrusively, and adds the functionality separate from
yet integrated with the MJ. I don't replace or modify the MJ Softphone
at all, though, at times I consider adding a "replacement" for the
Contacts and Call Log, so that I can add functionality without mods
to MJ (which would be against the TOS). Everything I've done works
along with the MJ functionality. Even if I add the Contact/Log addon, you
would still have everything MJ has now, just more.

I am working, as I write this, on Call Forwarding that
works without a hitch, without changing any settings on the "MY MJ" site.
A simple Input control and a checkbox to enable/disable, and a builtin
reboot of MJ, and you're working!!!
It lets me forward my MJ directly to Google Voice (aka: GrandCentral)
with instant response (ie: with apparent quicker speed than usual),
which kinda knocks-out the need for my original motive to write this
thing...Call Filtering. GV allows for pretty acceptable screening, though
not as sophisticated as this tool's RegEx screening Capabilities.

[kcowan]

This sounds good. I don't need it just yet but I will in the fall when I replace the landline.

[vdot]

This sounds good. I don't need it just yet but I will in the fall when I replace the landline.

Hi Keith,

I have it in Beta right now. Not all of the above features are
implemented, but other features have been added (such as
active call-forwarding (actually works, and is immediate)). I also
added auto-ignore, auto-respond, anonymous-call reject and of course,
the caller-id filtering works wonderfully. There are some others, too,
already added, and more planned. I have much bigger
plans than originally posted.
The first release is hoped to be available for sale by July.
At a minimum, minor update releases will be without charge.
I *hope* to make major new version releases at no additional
charge, too, but have not decided this yet. There will also be
some major Add-ons which will actually be separate products
because of the scope of additional capabilities they will add to
your MJ! I don't want to give these away yet, but some pretty
cool stuff, coming soon!

[awace]

hey i like the idea that you looked into the regedit like i did
I noticed a 0 1 selection for anonymous call rejection could you incorperate this with a custom wav file ring tone in a small package this is all i need to change w my magic jack and would like to force it to choose this wav file of my choice to ring to and always turn on anonymous call rejection.
the caller id name comes from the address book like a cell phone at least we can see the incomming caller id number!!..
also i dont have the $10 for youre software but would like to be a beta testor if you have a ß version stable please email me
at [email protected]
I use my magic jack on my big machine harddrive sleep after 3 minnutes and screen after 10 no susspeend cause that dont work but vmail does work if unplugged or computer turned off.
I always love when someone like u makes own software like dosbox 0.72 witch i finnaly got f22 in dos to actually play now to figure out joystick options i guess if i get a sidewinder it would work.
but like stella atari emulation you made a file for magic jack question does it have a custom ring or custom skin?
big small? meduim

[awace]

I went to youre web site and it shows a phone number but no number to call.

[vdot]

I went to youre web site and it shows a phone number but no number to call.

That's how my website works: It requires you to enter your phone #
and name, calls you at the number you entered, and then connects
you to me.

As for your requests, what you want is in the works or planned.
Anonymous Call rejection is implemented in two distinct ways
in this App:
-CallerID Filtering handles it just fine, along with 800, 877, 888
and 866 numbers (and any other area-code/exchange/or number
combinations, either full or partial).
-Additionally, there is a plain Anonymous Call rejection
which works in conjunction with the other Call Control features
(as an example: Active Call Forwarding). Most other Call Control
features work "one-OR-the-other" by their very nature. For
example, you cannot both forward a call and auto-answer it or filter it.

To another point, there is no such thing as a 'stable' beta...that is
the nature of beta. It's still being developed day-to-day. Bugs are
found, bugs are fixed, features are implemented, new bugs are
introduced (perhaps). I suppose there are some beta releases that
are *more* stable than others.

Also, since I don't have every version of Windows readily available
to me, I need to use the beta testers to help me when something
particular to their version is going awry. For example, I don't run
Vista, so my installer initially was failing under Vista. Now it works,
run under Administrator caps, and with a couple reboots...
not what I'd like, but necessary due to UAC in Vista.

BTW, most of the MJ registry settings are not implemented by MJ.
They were part of the TigerJet API, but not used by MJ. That's
typical of both hardware and software that comes from generic
manufacturing or development sources. They produce products
with wide-ranging capabilities, from which their customers can
pick and choose to use in their own designs. Cell phone manufacturers
are a well known example, the cell-service providers being their
customers.

One last point:
Come now, don't have $10? But I myself understand the
desire not to spend a buck (having been sick and unemployed for the
last 6 years). If you'ld like to beta test, you can PM me with your
hardware, your Windows Version & Service Pack info on the machine
you would be using for the testing. I'll determine if I have a need,
and get back to you. The beta software is already fully copy-protected,
time limited (very brief time, since changes are fast and furious), and
requires authentication and registration, just like it will when purchased.
The only diff is that I continue issuing new releases, and allow you to
re-register each new one during beta testing. You don't need/want to
go through the purchase process. I don't plan to ever make
any 'free' releases, since they would get out there and never go away.
The price will be very fair, and I may temporarily have a very "low
introductory price" for people on this forum, but it would be available
for a limited time, then not be licensible after that. When I am back
on my feet, I will likely have some other releases that will be freeware,
but can't oblige at this time. I've used plenty of free software, and
appreciate the guys that can afford to put it out, especially when times
are tough. I am just not in that position right now, but tomorrow is
*always* a new day

[awace]

ALL I wanted to know about was the registry in magic jack says
anonymous rejection =0
I was wondering if i changed it to a 1 and didnt unplug magic jack witch resets this would it reject calls w out caller id number that was the only thing i was interested in I am not interested in software that is beta but that also shuts it self off as this is a phone i need if it was a beta program that all it did was enable a custom ring tone and annonymous rejection then i would pay $10 right up front thats all i want is to use my own ring tone or make it start a file witch could be a wav file too or mp3.
it would be a small file that loads after magic jack was detected to modify the registry so i wouldnt have to and hopefully lets me use my choce of wav file for ring tone I dont need all the other bells and whistles you talk about just a custom ring tone and as far as anonymous rejection I dont really need that either I really only want a custom ring tone .
I do how ever have a question .

I noticed if magic jack not run 1st time it comes up in telephone mode and WONT RING as i am using a normal telephone so i choose handset and keep using normal telephone cause it rings threw computer but then if i unplug after the LUCK YOU it will remember handset mode witch i like cause it rings. but it uses the lame ring in tone from windows I wonder if there is a way to change that in a dir in the magic jack memory stick or is it rom not eeprom rom cause if its permanant rom then you cant write to it and it has been baked in but if there is some .ini file that it will let you change unless you run update then it could be coersed into runnning choice wav file you could even store it in the phone drive thanks .
remember a beta file would not shut it self off or nor be timed its a beta file.... and if i had to pay for a beta file it better not shut off after a ceritan date or its not worth paying for if i have to pay for any product weather its beta or not it better not expire you talk about shareware cause shareware does just that it shuts off after a while a beta version is free and never expires freeware is same thing as beta version but something that shuts off after a ceritan time would not be a beta version cause if its a beta version I would not expect to have to pay for it windows 7 is a differnt story thats a Microsoft operating system and it really doesnt shut off you can still run it after its activated ifyou activate if youre luckaly enough to get netowrk card to load before activation..
anyway good luck and i hope you understand my question.

ALso a good way to not get any buissines is to not answer youre sales department PHONE.

[awace]

ALL I wanted to know about was the registry in magic jack says
anonymous rejection =0
I was wondering if i changed it to a 1 and didnt unplug magic jack witch resets this would it reject calls w out caller id number that was the only thing i was interested in I am not interested in software that is beta but that also shuts it self off as this is a phone i need if it was a beta program that all it did was enable a custom ring tone and annonymous rejection then i would pay $10 right up front thats all i want is to use my own ring tone or make it start a file witch could be a wav file too or mp3.
it would be a small file that loads after magic jack was detected to modify the registry so i wouldnt have to and hopefully lets me use my choce of wav file for ring tone I dont need all the other bells and whistles you talk about just a custom ring tone and as far as anonymous rejection I dont really need that either I really only want a custom ring tone .
I do how ever have a question .

I noticed if magic jack not run 1st time it comes up in telephone mode and WONT RING as i am using a normal telephone so i choose handset and keep using normal telephone cause it rings threw computer but then if i unplug after the LUCK YOU it will remember handset mode witch i like cause it rings. but it uses the lame ring in tone from windows I wonder if there is a way to change that in a dir in the magic jack memory stick or is it rom not eeprom rom cause if its permanant rom then you cant write to it and it has been baked in but if there is some .ini file that it will let you change unless you run update then it could be coersed into runnning choice wav file you could even store it in the phone drive thanks .
remember a beta file would not shut it self off or nor be timed its a beta file.... and if i had to pay for a beta file it better not shut off after a ceritan date or its not worth paying for if i have to pay for any product weather its beta or not it better not expire you talk about shareware cause shareware does just that it shuts off after a while a beta version is free and never expires freeware is same thing as beta version but something that shuts off after a ceritan time would not be a beta version cause if its a beta version I would not expect to have to pay for it windows 7 is a differnt story thats a Microsoft operating system and it really doesnt shut off you can still run it after its activated ifyou activate if youre luckaly enough to get netowrk card to load before activation..
anyway good luck and i hope you understand my question.

ALso a good way to not get any buissines is to not answer youre sales department PHONE.

[vdot]

ALL I wanted to know about was the registry in magic jack says
anonymous rejection =0
I was wondering if i changed it to a 1 and didnt unplug magic jack witch resets this would it reject calls w out caller id number that was the only thing i was interested in

No

I am not interested in software that is beta but that also shuts it self off as this is a phone i need if it was a beta program that all it did was enable a custom ring tone and annonymous rejection then i would pay .
.
.
.

Look up the meaning of BETA versions with respect to the software
development lifecycle, and re-read my previous post.

I had previously stated that if you wanted to be a beta tester, you
should NOT go through the payment process, but just test it for the
limited time that it would run for free. By that time, there would be
another beta version you could download and re-install.

I do how ever have a question .

I noticed if magic jack not run 1st time it comes up in telephone mode and WONT RING as i am using a normal telephone so i choose handset and keep using normal telephone cause it rings threw computer but then if i unplug after the LUCK YOU it will remember handset mode witch i like cause it rings. but it uses the lame ring in tone from windows I wonder if there is a way to change that in a dir in the magic jack memory stick or is it rom not eeprom rom cause if its permanant rom then you cant write to it and it has been baked in but if there is some .ini file that it will let you change unless you run update then it could be coersed into runnning choice wav file you could even store it in the phone drive thanks .

Don't understand the question.

remember a beta file would not shut it self off or nor be timed its a beta file.... and if i had to pay for a beta file it better not shut off after a ceritan date or its not worth paying for if i have to pay for any product weather its beta or not it better not expire you talk about shareware cause shareware does just that it shuts off after a while a beta version is free and never expires freeware is same thing as beta version but something that shuts off after a ceritan time would not be a beta version cause if its a beta version I would not expect to have to pay for it windows 7 is a differnt story thats a Microsoft operating system and it really doesnt shut off you can still run it after its activated ifyou activate if youre luckaly enough to get netowrk card to load before activation..
anyway good luck and i hope you understand my question.

You seem to misunderstand what beta is all about...it is NOT
some way of getting free software. As far as paying, again,
please re-read above and previous post.

ALso a good way to not get any buissines is to not answer youre sales department PHONE.

Sorry, I don't know what you're referring to. If you called me
from my website, I must not have been sitting around waiting for
your call at that time. I also did not catch that message you left, nor
any indication on Caller-ID that, indeed, you ever called.
Perhaps some business is better left "un-gotten".

[x0r0]

FIREFIGHT!
hey if you need money, you could always shine my knob... why don't you market like other scammers, on ebay

indeed sounds like a scam to me

[cod3]

The latest update removed the Do Not Disturb. Does this feature in your application still work or is it also removed? Also I get a lot of Debt collectors, I mean telemarketers calling me. Can I block them with your application. I would filter my calls like crazy if I could. I would pay for these features for sure.

[srvctek]

FIREFIGHT!
hey if you need money, you could always shine my knob... why don't you market like other scammers, on ebay

Lmfao!!!

[az2008]

Indeed, sounds like a scam to me

It doesn't sound right to me either. It's hard to believe that a call coming into the MJ softphone can be intercepted and rerouted to another phone number.

If this is a scam, he blew it by overdoing the feature list. Too good to be true.

If it's not a scam, he needs to reveal some beta testers to gain some credibility. If it's really in "beta" right now, who's beta testing it? Get them over here to comment on their experience.

Mark

[vdot]

The latest update removed the Do Not Disturb. Does this feature in your application still work or is it also removed? Also I get a lot of Debt collectors, I mean telemarketers calling me. Can I block them with your application. I would filter my calls like crazy if I could. I would pay for these features for sure.

Yes, the CallerID filtering blocks specific numbers or can
block any group of numbers (eg: all 800 numbers, or numbers
from area code (nnn), etc.)

The DND feature, to be honest, I hadn't noticed they did away with that!
I had implemented DND in MagicBeans, which now is sending the
caller to VM, but continues ringing (weird), but I have a similar feature
that allows you to adjust the rings before sending to VM, so you can set
it to ring once only. I will fix DND pretty easily, but at this time, it's
broken .

UPDATE: DND is fixed, tested...works great...

Thanks for the heads-up! BTW, when did MJ update?

[vdot]

Indeed, sounds like a scam to me

It doesn't sound right to me either. It's hard to believe that a call coming into the MJ softphone can be intercepted and rerouted to another phone number.

If this is a scam, he blew it by overdoing the feature list. Too good to be true.

If it's not a scam, he needs to reveal some beta testers to gain some credibility. If it's really in "beta" right now, who's beta testing it? Get them over here to comment on their experience.

Mark

Mark, You're wrong. The beta test offer was/is to anyone who
reads this post. If you want to beta test, as I said, PM me with
your OS/Version/Machine info, and if I need any or more testers
running that setup, I'll get back to you. I know you've been posting
here since before I found the place, and I'd be happy to have you
as a tester. (DISCLAIMER: insults do not normally get you automatic
beta tester status ).

BTW, beta testers do not sign on to be outted
publicly. Some are not even on this forum. I don't think it would
be ethical to reveal them, nor ethical of them to reveal anything
about my software while in beta testing (unless I've already disclosed
the information). They're testing software which may have bugs, and
which I don't have available for sale yet, so it would not be fair to
comment about it yet. They aren't spokemen, just testers.

Also, if I were a scammer, I likely would not have been lurking
here since June 2008. And just what kind of Scam would I be pulling?
If I could make money with beta testers, well, I think there would be
much more beta testing going on all around the world...

@kostkokid
As far as knob shining, you first have to *have* a knob. I think you
must've shined yours off.

I'm not marketing it here, just responding to posters that said they'ld
want to buy it. It's not for sale yet, though I've built the sale/registration
process into the software, so I had to explain that to potential beta
testers. I thought that I had been plain enough...

And, hey, anyone that hasn't been waiting for some of this stuff,
you don't need to read about it, beta test it, or buy it. In fact,
I wrote the first version in 6 hours, for my own use, just so that I
could block the dang warrantee telemarketers that started using
one of my MJ numbers. When that worked, I started thinking of
other stuff that could be done. I still have a lot more to do, but it
DOES work.

[az2008]

If you want to beta test, as I said, PM me with your OS/Version/Machine info,

I PMed you. I don't know how much testing I will do. But, I could at least verify your claims and provide some feedback here to eliminate the suspicions.

BTW: I didn't say you need to reveal the names of all your beta testers. Just that it's hard to believe none of them would show up here to talk about your product. If it does all you say it does, it should be a hot topic. At a minimum (if I were you) I'd encourage them to comment so there's more than one person's voice to rely upon.

Mark

[vdot]

If you want to beta test, as I said, PM me with your OS/Version/Machine info,

I PMed you. I don't know how much testing I will do. But, I could at least verify your claims and provide some feedback here to eliminate the suspicions.

BTW: I didn't say you need to reveal the names of all your beta testers. Just that it's hard to believe none of them would show up here to talk about your product. If it does all you say it does, it should be a hot topic. At a minimum (if I were you) I'd encourage them to comment so there's more than one person's voice to rely upon.

Mark

Sorry, I thought that's what you meant. My early testers were not
on this site. But I needed some more, plus thought people on this
site would really like the new developments (especially CID filtering),
so I posted it out here. Sometimes I may be a bit too over zealous, or
excited about these things, but I didn't mean make it sound like a
sales pitch. It's true, I *do* need the money right now, but I fully
expect my sales to come from the general population, not this
forum. I also realize MJ monitors this site, so I don't want to give
away too much info...don't want trouble from them. In fact, I'd like
to have a good relationship with MJ as a sort-of 3rd-party MJ enhancement
vendor. I hope you'll respect this, as a beta "tester".

BTW, I'm about ready to upload the installer that *should* work with Vista
and UAC...

[az2008]

I hope you'll respect this, as a beta "tester".

Thanks. I'm afraid to install it because of you warned me that AV software may complain about key logging, or that it's monitoring other windows on the desktop.

I think I'll let someone with more background investing potentially risky things check it out first.

Mark

[richardtaur]

I want to use ATA not the app. Can you do that?

[vdot]

I hope you'll respect this, as a beta "tester".

Thanks. I'm afraid to install it because of you warned me that AV software may complain about key logging, or that it's monitoring other windows on the desktop.

I think I'll let someone with more background investing potentially risky things check it out first.

Mark

Geez, that's why I told you about it. As I said, the software, for it to
do it's thing, has to monitor MANY system events including keyclicks,
mouse movement & clicks, process exist/non-exists and window
exist/non-exists.
The software, as I said, does NOT log or record any of this
information, but it has to detect it. How in the h-e-double-toothpicks else
am I gonna know when there's an incoming call, or if you click on the
accept button, etc.,? I warned you about your AV possibly spinning off
a pop-up thinking this key-monitoring was part of a key-logger, which it
is NOT! It is not "monitoring other windows" either, it is scanning to see,
for example, when the "Incoming Call" popup appears and disappears.
You download AV software don't you? It's doing some pretty "dangerous"
stuff, too...it must to do it's job. MJ did not give me their source code,
so I must do some low-level stuff, too, for MagicBeans® to work.

[vdot]

I want to use ATA not the app. Can you do that?

Sorry, that's another department

[slimenem]

I myself and many others will not use an app that is caught by my antivirus as malware. Especially from an unknown source. If you want people to use your software your gonna have to find a way around the av freak out thing.

[vdot]

I myself and many others will not use an app that is caught by my antivirus as malware. Especially from an unknown source. If you want people to use your software your gonna have to find a way around the av freak out thing.

The way around it is to submit the software to all the AV companies
have them check it out and put it in their whitelist. I'm in beta, I haven't
done that yet. I'm not twisting your arm to test it. I explained the
reasoning to Mark, since he said he wanted to be a beta tester.

That's it. I don't give a hoot if you want to use it or not. I haven't
hidden this or my contact info from anyone. You can even call me.
So if you think it has a virus, don't use it. I don't have time for this,
as I've got a lot more work to do, if I'm gonna make my July deadline.

[az2008]

I myself and many others will not use an app that is caught by my antivirus as malware. Especially from an unknown source. If you want people to use your software your gonna have to find a way around the av freak out thing.

Despite all the talk about "creating my own low-level API," he's probably using AutoIT. It makes it very easy to automate Windows programs.

In fact, I've been writing a call blocker in my spare time. It's easy to do. I plan to release mine for free.

However, because of AutoIT's ease of use, it's been used by malware authors and added to anti-virus programs as malware.

I wouldn't trust any AutoIT program unless it was from a forum old-timer or the source code is available for inspection.

Mark

[vdot]

I myself and many others will not use an app that is caught by my antivirus as malware. Especially from an unknown source. If you want people to use your software your gonna have to find a way around the av freak out thing.

Despite all the talk about "creating my own low-level API," he's probably using AutoIT. It makes it very easy to automate Windows programs.

In fact, I've been writing a call blocker in my spare time. It's easy to do. I plan to release mine for free.

However, because of AutoIT's ease of use, it's been used by malware authors and added to anti-virus programs as malware.

I wouldn't trust any AutoIT program unless it was from a forum old-timer or the source code is available for inspection.

Mark

I didn't say I created a low-level API (which makes no sense, since
MJ would have to do that). I said "Not Really, but I have a tool I
wrote that allows me to expose all the control and window data
which allows me some access." There are plenty of tools out there
that do similar things, many packaged with debuggers and dev tools.
And while you're guessing about what language I'm using, as if it were a
scripting tool as you suggest, it may as well be FBSL or AutoHotKey or
WinBatch or...but it's not...because you can't do things like embedded
key scanning and call backs and...with your kiddie scripts.

If it's so easy, have at it...you've had a year and a half to come up
with it like anyone else, and last I heard from you, it was impossible,
and you PM'd me wanting to beta test. And until now, I'm not aware
of anyone who has done anything approaching this App (with respect
to add-on MJ functionality).

So if you don't have something constructive to say or rip-off,
then bug-off. If I am not getting anything but flack from the
ne'er-do-wells of the forum, I won't make news of it any further
available here. But I am certain that when news of MagicBeans® gets
around, those same bozos that had nothing but rag to offer the
community will be the first to buy it under some disguised name...
that's OK with me.

[az2008]

last I heard from you, it was impossible,

I said some of the features you listed sounded impossible to me. Not all.

and you PM'd me wanting to beta test.

I posted to this forum saying I'd like to see the beta if only to help substantiate your claims. You said I should PM you to request it.

Mark

[cod3]

I downloaded the beta version and everything works as claimed. AVG Anti virus didn't detect anything bad. I would definitely purchase this when it becomes available. Great piece of software.

[vdot]

I downloaded the beta version and everything works as claimed. AVG Anti virus didn't detect anything bad. I would definitely purchase this when it becomes available. Great piece of software.

Thanks for the public vote of confidence. BTW, I made some fixes &
posted a new version. Later today (Tuesday) I think I can fairly
easily add the feature you wanted about highlighting a number
in the "Calls" tab, and auto-adding it to the CID Filter file.
I'll PM or call you to get the update when I've posted it...

-vdot

[x0r0]

how about some screen shots or something? so we can have a look

[vdot]

how about some screen shots or something? so we can have a look

If I get around to it, I might do that, but I'm swamped with things I
need to do to get this out ASAP.

Maybe cod3 can download the latest beta and post a few
quicker than I'll be able to?

[cod3]

MajicBeans screen shots.

[srvctek]

Hey vdot is cod3 your alter ego? looks interesting can you put it on rapidshare and give me a link?

[srvctek]

Can you make your next project your highest priority and get our ata's back in business?

[az2008]

MajicBeans screen shots.

Looks interesting. I may have misunderstood earlier when "vdot" said something about call forwarding. I thought he meant it would route the incoming call to another number. Seeing the screenshots I think he meant he'll update the my.magicjack.com portal with the phone number you provide.

I've been working on something similar to this (with a few other features). I plan to give it away for free, and make the source available so it can be community developed (and eliminate concerns about spyware).

It should take a couple weeks if I have time. It's just something I've been playing with for awhile.

Mark

[cod3]

Anyone who wants to try out the software should PM vdot.

If you want to beta test, as I said, PM me with your OS/Version/Machine info,

After you give him your machine info he will give you his website where you can download the software and beta test it. No need to rapidshare it.

[crusader]

Hi, this sounds good, but can you do anything about the international call fowarding? As of right now you can call international, if you have money on your account, but it will not except the 15 digits that is needed to foward internationally, only 10 digits allowed. Can it be Fixed?
If so i am count me in.

[vdot]

Looks interesting. I may have misunderstood earlier when "vdot" said something about call forwarding. I thought he meant it would route the incoming call to another number. Seeing the screenshots I think he meant he'll update the my.magicjack.com portal with the phone number you provide.

I've been working on something similar to this (with a few other features). I plan to give it away for free, and make the source available so it can be community developed (and eliminate concerns about spyware).

It should take a couple weeks if I have time. It's just something I've been playing with for awhile.

Mark

Wrong again. MagicBeans® forwards calls directly...not messing
with magicJack's portal website forwarding.

I call it "active" (or online) call-forwarding vs. their
"passive" (or offline) call-forwarding. MagicBeans® call-forwarding
works immediately, accurately and consistently every time.
MJ's web-based call forwarding only really works consistently (or at all
in some cases) when your MJ is not connected to the internet for
whatever reason. That makes sense, when you think about it and why
it is web-based. The problem is, they don't explain it that way.

Also, there will be no concerns about "spyware" in my product. I am
submitting it to all the major Anti-virus companies for them to check-out
and whitelist. So please quit your trying to scare people away, and
attempting to hijack my thread with your vaporware.

[vdot]

Hi, this sounds good, but can you do anything about the international call fowarding? As of right now you can call international, if you have money on your account, but it will not except the 15 digits that is needed to foward internationally, only 10 digits allowed. Can it be Fixed?
If so i am count me in.

Hi crusader,
I have not tried it with international forwarding, but I currently *do* have
the edit setup for domestic numbers. I could fix that, I think, without
too much trouble, and if the MJ can dial more numbers than that,
MagicBeans® should then work. I'm sorry, but I wasn't even aware
you could call internationally with MJ (other than Canada), and never
paid much attention to those things. I'll look at fixing my phone number
edit to allow outgoing international calls. I can't guarantee the timeline
or that it will ultimately work, but it shouldn't be a problem.

[vdot]

Anyone who wants to try out the software should PM vdot.

If you want to beta test, as I said, PM me with your OS/Version/Machine info,

After you give him your machine info he will give you his website where you can download the software and beta test it. No need to rapidshare it.

@cod3: thanks for posting for me. I got another good feature
implemented: ability to "shoot" a number in the "Call" list, and
automatically add it to the CallerID filter file. It has edits to only allow
filters to be added once, etc.,. Beta testers can download it from
the same location as previous updates. I plan to next finish the
auto-update capability of the installer, then the help file, then the
public website...then Version 1.0 will be officially released for sale!

Any [legitimate] requests for beta testers, not people just wanting to
gain information for their own attempts, can PM me with your
machine/OS Version/Service Pack info, and I'll let you in on testing
it. I've stated up front that this was a commercial venture for me,
and I have gotten *some* individuals who have tried their best to
undermine my development efforts with scare stories, promises of
software that will do the same thing for free, and other underhanded
tactics. My answer to these persons is:

1.) If you have already been developing something like this, where is
it, and where has it been for the last 1.5 years.

2.) If you *really* have worked on things at least a little similar
(such as mp3Gamer00's very nice "MJ Manager") then, great, more
power to you! Put it out there on your own thread, and let the people
decide which they like best. But please butt-out of this thread which I
started to let people know of what I've been working on...which is,
IMHO (and unbiased, of course), much advanced to anything like it
previous. Don't try to steal my ideas and present them as yours, and
don't try to bias my product, when you know *nothing* about it.

It is true I will sell this, but I am not selling it here, yet. When I do,
I'll purchase ads from this forum's owner. Until, then, this thread is
to let people who want to beta test, find out about it, and the curious
to ask questions, and ask for features if they want.

I appreciate the many PMs of interested and supportive people.
Several have been very helpful, and/or offered their help, which
is very nice. In return, I hope to, at the very least, produce a very
useful, economical, and feature-rich software product for MJ enthusiasts
and home-users alike. My plan is to continue adding many features in
ongoing releases and add-ons, many for which I already have detailed
plans. I also want the software to support all sorts of uses by all sorts
of good people, like crusader's international MJ use (which I never even
thought of until crusader's post).

Cheers to all who have been encouraging...

Dave V (vdot)

[vdot]

Hey vdot is cod3 your alter ego? looks interesting can you put it on rapidshare and give me a link?

Thanks for your interest...didn't mean to ignore you.
I've been working hard to get this out...'til 5am last night, and already
4am tonight (this morning?).

Anyway, like cod3 said, PM me with your info. I'll get you the link,
and some info, and you can get testing! Even though I wrote it, I
have to say I love it. It really enhances "the MJ experience." (I'll
have to sell that to Dan )

If you decide to test, keep me posted with any issues, or any ideas
you'ld like to see implemented. Thanks again for your interest.

-Dave V

[vdot]

Hey vdot is cod3 your alter ego? looks interesting can you put it on rapidshare and give me a link?

No But cod3 is a cool guy, and he's been willing to help
me out alot.

[az2008]

Wrong again. MagicBeans® forwards calls directly...not messing with magicJack's portal website forwarding.

It will be interesting to see how you do that using the softphone. This is the only feature in your original list that I questioned.

Everything else is extremely easy to do using AutoIT (a free programming tool). That's why I'm surprised you're charging for it.

If you have already been developing something like this, where is it, and where has it been for the last 1.5 years.

I didn't say that I've worked on it for 1.5 years. Maybe 2-3 months in my spare time (6 hours a week?).

I don't have a profit motive. If I have enough time, I'll release mine in a couple weeks.

Like I said, I plan to make it available for free. And, release the source code as GPL so it can be community developed.

FYI: submitting a program to anti-virus manufacturers isn't a guarantee against malicious behavior. For example, if the program isn't detected as a virus there is no reason to submit it for whitelisting. The program author can say "oh, sure, I submitted it. That's why it isn't detected as a virus." But, it may not have been detected to begin with. (I.e., anti-virus companies don't know something is malicious until a sufficient number of victims detect it and report it. ).

Therefore 1) there's no guarantee that the program author submitted it. Or, 2) didn't change the program after submitting it.

Mark

[vdot]

FYI: submitting a program to anti-virus manufacturers isn't a guarantee against malicious behavior. For example, if the program isn't detected as a virus there is no reason to submit it for whitelisting. The program author can say "oh, sure, I submitted it. That's why it isn't detected as a virus." But, it may not have been detected to begin with. (I.e., anti-virus companies don't know something is malicious until a sufficient number of victims detect it and report it. ).

Therefore 1) there's no guarantee that the program author submitted it. Or, 2) didn't change the program after submitting it.

Mark

That's not correct. Submitting it to the AV company allows them to check
out the behavior of the software and the code itself. They don't
whitelist your software just because you submit it to them. Their lab
checks it is not doing anything malicious. If someone were to submit first,
then add a virus to the sold software:
#1 - the hash would be wrong for their program, and the AV would
not whitelist it.
#2 - they wouldn't sell too many copies, since their customers would be
just a little unhappy
#3 - some customers, if given contact info of the seller (as I have
freely given) might come visiting...
So just quit with the attempted trashing of my software. You haven't
even tried it.

Also, if you knew anything
about software, you'ld realize that many things that a complex program
can do might be identified by virus detection algorithms as potentially
malicious. If the code needs to do anything out of the ordinary, such as
scan for key presses or scan a windows text for the word "Incoming" or
thousands of other things, then it could be seen by a given AV software
as a potential threat. In the case of my software, that is exactly what I
was privately warning you about when you PM'd me to be a beta tester.
You are not acting in good faith, nor are your motives as selfless as you
would like people to believe. You misrepresented yourself to me,
and you've done nothing but try to undermine the credibility of my
software product. You also greatly underestimate the complexity
of the tasks that MagicBeans® performs. It's called Windows GDI+
and Windows API programming, hooks and callbacks. Look it up
on MSDN.

Please get your own thread for your vaporware and bugoff.

[az2008]

That's not correct. Submitting it to the AV company allows them to check out the behavior of the software and the code itself. They don't whitelist your software just because you submit it to them. Their lab
checks it is not doing anything malicious.

The point is, your beta tester said it wasn't caught by his A/V software. In such as case, a malicious author would have no reason to submit it. But, could say "I submitted it, that's why it's not detected as a virus. It's been thoroughly vetted."

Or, a malicious author could submit a harmless program just to get on a "list" and then distribute a different program which isn't detected by A/V software.

You misrepresented yourself to me,

Relax. I understand you have a profit motive. You want to charge for something that's basically trivial to do with a free tool like AutoIT (although I admit I'm not clear how you forward calls yet).

1. I publicly posted saying I'd be willing to look at your program to give you some credibility when myself and others thought you were scamming.

2. You said I should PM you.

3. I did. You told me where to download it, and warned me that it may be detected as a virus because it monitors keystrokes, mouse movement, etc.

4. I PMed back that I wasn't comfortable installing that, and mentioned that I had been working on a free tool containing most of the features you've mentioned (and a few more).

5. I reported back to the forum the outcome of my offer to look at your program (I wasn't comfortable doing it based upon what you described to me.).

How did I misrepresent myself?

Mark

[vdot]

I've started updating the first post in this thread with the latest
beta version info.

Beta testers can now just look at the first post to see if they have
the latest update.

I hope to keep this updated with each version change, but it may happen
that I forget once and awhile. Lately I've been updating 3-5 times
(or more) daily.

[vdot]

Hi, this sounds good, but can you do anything about the international call fowarding? As of right now you can call international, if you have money on your account, but it will not except the 15 digits that is needed to foward internationally, only 10 digits allowed. Can it be Fixed?
If so i am count me in.

I've modified the code such that Active Call Forwarding *should* be able
to work with International Numbers. If anyone wants to test this out,
PM me. If you're not already a beta tester, include your
Machine/OS Version/Service Pack info, and I'll hook you up with
the info to download MagicBeans®

TIA,

Dave V (vdot)

[Mp3Gamer00]

Thanks for the compliment vdot. Hope to try out the program myself. If you need anything programmed let me know. My source is open to you and everyone.

[vdot]

Thanks for the compliment vdot. Hope to try out the program myself. If you need anything programmed let me know. My source is open to you and everyone.

Hey, no problem! Your program is probably the best of this kind to-date.
If this venture is very successful (and I've got good reason to think
it *may* be), I might be wanting to hire another programmer.
This project of mine is not free/open source, but some future stuff will be,
and others won't.

I PM'd you the info to download and test it out. If you do any International
calling with MJ, I could use somebody to test out the
Active/Online Call-Forwarding with an international number. I modified
the code, but I don't have a number, nor the spare change to test
it out.

But, Thanks to a very generous and friendly guy out in CA, known only
as "Joe," I have a great site to host the exe file (or the whole site, if
I want). I really like to encounter people like Joe, who are uplifting,
as opposed to vexatious. A big Shout-out and "Thanks" to Joe!