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v1s · Post by **v1s** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 12:55 pm

I Just got a new MJ I was able to retrieve what I believe is the username and password. It doesnt seem to have changed when I remove it what ever.

I cant seem to get it to login though.

However I blocked all incoming out going traffic to the MJ app except udp 5070 and it will login and let me make and receive calls.

So I dont think there is the password is changing or that its getting it somewhere else. There maybe something thats happening when I guess it gets encoded to the md5 maybe its doing something.

I used magicsipac to get the login stuff seems to work.

It doesnt keep the pass in memory long either I think its just there for a few secs then its gone.

kurtrad · Post by **kurtrad** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:23 pm

kurtrad wrote:All three of my MJ SIP credentials stopped working on 2 Sept on my PAP2 hardware. I had not plugged in a dongle for a little over 1 year up until today.

I retrieved the SIP password from all 3 MJs again after plugging them in and using a utility named SIPDump.exe that I had downloaded back when I first started going dongleless with my PAP2 boxes a little over a year ago.

One dongle required I use the MJPROXY back then and so I updated the password on the mjproxy command line and I got that number working again on my PAP2 hardware with the new PW.

The other two SIP passwords seem to come back the same with each reinsertion of the dongle and SIPDump. However these SIP IDs and passwords do not work whether I use MJPROXY or not.

What a drag... I am back to this BS game from the MJ idiots!

Well, I got the passwords OK, but I did not notice that on my 2nd and 3rd magic jacks has changed the USER ID to E##########02 and E##########03. Now I can place calls. I am stil having some inconsistency with incoming calls actually ringing the telephone. I have opened ports in my router ranging from 5060 to 5070 to the PAP2T device.

Any ideas that can fix the incoming call issue?

twice · Post by **twice** » Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:01 pm

VaHam wrote:I am afraid this new change is gonna be next to impossible to work around. Oh well have to use the thin clients again.

the password is there and working just got to find them ,,
but they are there
twice

Spider210 · Post by **Spider210** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 12:20 am

twice wrote:
the password is there and working just got to find them ,,
but they are there
twice

your just one of the lucky ones that's not updated yet.. wait you'll see

kurtrad · Post by **kurtrad** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:10 am

arcadia2uk wrote:I agree with you Spider, but definitely not with your wording..., it is a real issue. Let's just hope that it doesn't affect everyone. I still have one of my MJ numbers that can run w/o MJMD5:), but on another I received the latest update and can no longer use it with MJMD5, luckily I have a few spares.
arc

Until two days ago, two of my three MJ SIPs worked on my PAP2 hardware witout MJPROXY running on my DD-WRT router. My other one that was running with MJPROXY had a password change. All three numbers failed.

They changed my USER ID on two of them as well as the passwords on all of them. Now the USER ID is E##########01, E##########02, and E##########03. Now all of them require the MJPROXY to log in successfully. I plugged in the three dongles, did the dumps on them, and I am back up and running.

twice · Post by **twice** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:41 am

Spider210 wrote:
your just one of the lucky ones that's not updated yet.. wait you'll see

2.0.554f (SJ Labs) updated on the 2nd
twice

chrisdfw · Post by **chrisdfw** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 11:52 am

Luckily I had a sipsorcery and Gizmo5 account that combined with Google voice give me free incoming and outgoing and ATA. Works just like at normal phone. I am giving up on Magic Jack . This solution works all the time and is free.

I will say a thank you to all who provided valuable support here in the forms.

VaHam · Post by **VaHam** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 1:43 pm

twice wrote:
VaHam wrote:I am afraid this new change is gonna be next to impossible to work around. Oh well have to use the thin clients again.
the password is there and working just got to find them ,,
but they are there
twice

Oh I found them but they were changing at each registration. They seem to have temporally stabilized however; it is probably only a matter of a short time before they revert to dynamically changing them at each registration.

Gonna be a bumpy ride as things keep changing. In the end the good times may be over.

Personally I don't think Dan's softphone advertising business model is gonna work now that Google has jump in the game with free calling. Once he figures that out then BYOD may finally become a reality with MJ.

I'd be happy to pay twice the yearly MJ rate for BYOD and I suspect that is more revenue than the softphone advertising is likely to garner. since thinclients and the like keep the softphone from in front of users anyway without breaking the TOS. I suspect the real reason for not having BYOD is that it would be hard to say your not a phone company then.

UncleRunkle · Post by **UncleRunkle** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 2:04 pm

Whew, went out for 2 days, but got her back up and running! (Plus saved the wrath of the family unlike some others, lol)

The updates did change my SIP password which I was able to retrieve using MagicSipac. It seemed to stay pretty static for me, but the first times I was trying it I did get a different password so not sure if that was just a bad grab on the apps part or what.

Also, besides the SIP password change, my login changed from EXXXXXXXXXX01 to EXXXXXXXXXX02. MagicSipac never found the username nor did my searches though the SIPDump logs. Based on user comments, I started guessing, and it worked!

So at least for a bit, I'm back up with my two lines - MJ and GV/SipSorcery.

blueadept · Post by **blueadept** » Sat Sep 04, 2010 9:04 pm

They're back!

Seems they stopped, for now, the rotating passwords.

One changed user ID and both changed passwords again but I am back on my ATA!

stav · Post by **stav** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:31 pm

My password changed but my SIP stayed the same. Still unable to login using ATA/MJMD5 on DDWRT.
Too bad, back to the good-old-dongle/PC type of s..t, till some guru in this forum figures out the solution to this new challenge. If not, that would be the end of my 2 year MJ experience.

Spider210 · Post by **Spider210** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:29 pm

Back up and working

with a new password and now username looks like E555555555502

lets see how long this goes on for

kaibab · Post by **kaibab** » Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:14 pm

You are going to be waiting a long time for a fix because as of sunday 9-5-2010 10:00 pm ata's are working.Used sipdump installed new password ata came right up.So as of now it is up to you to fix it.

sabresfan · Post by **sabresfan** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:43 am

Spider210 wrote:Back up and working

with a new password and now username looks like E555555555502

lets see how long this goes on for

Glad to hear your back up and running.

bgfrmnyc · Post by **bgfrmnyc** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:00 am

I have not experienced any problems whatsoever. Been up and running for at least a year using a ddwrt router and Pap2t. I have not made any changes just hope that I don't loose my internet connection anytime soon!

genxweb · Post by **genxweb** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:58 pm

I am willing free of charge to rehack any ones jack that had issues such as spider210 to verify some stuff.

oldtimercurt · Post by **oldtimercurt** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:33 pm

Running TC 5710/ATA. I've had seperate power failure and cable failures. Had to restart MJMD5 for cable outage but still in business.

OTC

arcadia2uk · Post by **arcadia2uk** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:52 pm

I noticed this by mistake: my computer was backdated to 2005, and MJ showed up with a certificate error - Not valid, date out of range.
MJ showed up with error 20, once I re-set the date everything was OK again.
So, what happens if there is no certificate?
Just a thought, maybe this have something to do with the connection errors people are having?
arc

genxweb · Post by **genxweb** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:09 pm

arcadia2uk wrote:I noticed this by mistake: my computer was backdated to 2005, and MJ showed up with a certificate error - Not valid, date out of range.
MJ showed up with error 20, once I re-set the date everything was OK again.
So, what happens if there is no certificate?
Just a thought, maybe this have something to do with the connection errors people are having?
arc

What you are referring to is a ssl certificate used for security of communication if the date is wrong it shows the date of the certificate to be wrong causing that error.

tvland · Post by **tvland** » Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:31 pm

What's the latest user agent string?

sabresfan · Post by **sabresfan** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:26 am

tvland wrote:What's the latest user agent string?

This is from my latest dump User-Agent: MagicJack/2.0.554f (SJ Labs)

cucu007 · Post by **cucu007** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 11:41 am

blueadept wrote:They're back!

Seems they stopped, for now, the rotating passwords.

One changed user ID and both changed passwords again but I am back on my ATA!

I will test mine when I get home from work, the o0nly thing MJ will get from integrating this new password changes is to piss off customers and see a million returns to the local store and their website. Hope they get the point by switching the dynamic password off.

javaguy216 · Post by **javaguy216** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:38 pm

sabresfan wrote:
tvland wrote:What's the latest user agent string?
This is from my latest dump User-Agent: MagicJack/2.0.554f (SJ Labs)

Thank you!

SUNBURNED · Post by **SUNBURNED** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 6:06 pm

So is the password now longer than 20 characters?

crackerjack · Post by **crackerjack** » Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:31 pm

SUNBURNED wrote:So is the password now longer than 20 characters?

no

trabso · Post by **trabso** » Wed Sep 08, 2010 11:50 pm

My MJ has upgraded.
I was able to find my sip informations and my password is allways the same its been two days now.
But i cannot use my sip credentials in any sip software.
I tried X-lite and Sipdroid using Pbxes but it is not working.
username, password and proxy servers are right but it is not connecting.

Does anyone have any sip software working with magicjack?

lumangoy · Post by **lumangoy** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:54 am

are you running mjmd5?

trabso · Post by **trabso** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:51 am

I tried with and without mjdm5. I also tried on sipdroid using pbxes but it is not working . I get 401 error in x-lite.

trabso · Post by **trabso** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:09 am

I downloaded X-lite 4 and disabled my firewall. It is working now.

VoipDude · Post by **VoipDude** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:12 pm

MJ still working on ATA. I never use the dongle, so avoided the latest upgrade. MJMD5 is not connected whenever my computer is off, but connects automatically whenever my computer is on. MJ has been solid for about 1 1/2 years without the dongle.

arcadia2uk · Post by **arcadia2uk** » Thu Sep 09, 2010 6:12 pm

trabso wrote:I downloaded X-lite 4 and disabled my firewall. It is working now.

Is Xlite still working w/o MJMD5?

blueadept · Post by **blueadept** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:39 pm

VoipDude wrote:MJ still working on ATA. I never use the dongle, so avoided the latest upgrade. MJMD5 is not connected whenever my computer is off, but connects automatically whenever my computer is on. MJ has been solid for about 1 1/2 years without the dongle.

I didnt use the dongle for about a year and a half either. Then I got a call from my sister saying my phone wasn't working. I found that both lines had unregistered from my ATA and I got hit with the rotating passwords (which stopped happening).

My friend, who also uses an ATA didn't have any problem. Only one of his requires the MD5.

I do not think it had anything to do with if it was on or off. It just depended on where you were on their list. Lets just hope that they scrapped this idea of rotating passwords.

VaHam · Post by **VaHam** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 8:19 pm

Look for the rotating passwords to return with the launch of MagicTalk.

neo2121 · Post by **neo2121** » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:00 pm

VaHam wrote:Look for the rotating passwords to return with the launch of MagicTalk.

what are you basing this on? Did you get a test key?

dbean · Post by **dbean** » Tue Sep 14, 2010 11:47 pm

pap2T reg. state:
"cannot connect to login server"

Looks like the MJ folks are up to something. Will try and take update and look for new pw...looks like that's our only option.

genxweb · Post by **genxweb** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:07 am

dbean wrote:pap2T reg. state:
"cannot connect to login server"

Looks like the MJ folks are up to something. Will try and take update and look for new pw...looks like that's our only option.

I have been noticing more people are able to get the password but not actually connect to the server. I wonder if they are doing like google does for a bot detection and verify the application type. Meaning if you put in the new Magic Jack what ever it is now will that fix it. That would also explain why those using mjmd5 are having issues as that is probably hard coded in there to the older ones.

nostrodamus · Post by **nostrodamus** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:33 am

bgfrmnyc wrote:I have not experienced any problems whatsoever. Been up and running for at least a year using a ddwrt router and Pap2t. I have not made any changes just hope that I don't loose my internet connection anytime soon!

The internet connection outage probably wouldn't hurt you. My internet was out this morning for an unknown amount of time, and when it came back up, my Tomato router & SPA 2102 were working great.

In fact I haven't been to this board recently, so I had no idea there was a new Magic Jack SIP headache until I logged in here about 5 minutes ago.

Hopefully I won't have any need to plug in the dongle and worry about the "not so lucky you" update screen.

arcadia2uk · Post by **arcadia2uk** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:56 am

IT seems like this post has lost its relevance, at least for the moment.
If you are experience issues - retrieve your new credentials by MagicSipac or MJSIP.

dbean · Post by **dbean** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:43 pm

dbean wrote:pap2T reg. state:
"cannot connect to login server"

Looks like the MJ folks are up to something. Will try and take update and look for new pw...looks like that's our only option.

NEVERMIND.....I'm an idiot. Found my pw and username were exactly the same in all dumps.

Changed to another nearby proxy in mjproxy and all is well.
Reg. state: "online"

My local proxy sucks, always seems to go down!

stav · Post by **stav** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 8:50 pm

Finally up and running again on DDWRT/MJMD5/ATA. After the last upgrade, I had to retrieve my new password with SIPdump and now I'm all set and ready to go. What a difference an ATA can make !!... I had horrible sound and quality of sound during the time I was using the dongle on TC trying to find some spare time and search for the new password. Hope things will settle down for while...

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Scrote · Post by **Scrote** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:05 am

My ATA just loss registration with my DD-WRT and MJMD5, I will wait and see if tomorrow still no go hopefully I don't get screw over from the new "LUCKY YOU" update. Guess I have to plug in the damn Dongle to find out if my password change. seeing that most people pw have change.

mememe1234 · Post by **mememe1234** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:26 am

I got the same, ata not registered. Telnet in and run mjproxy can't bind listen address. Wait and see if tomorrow still can not register, may have to plug that damn dangler in to see if pw changed or not, hopefully not.

Scrote · Post by **Scrote** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 2:22 am

I get the same error on the router end, saying can't bind listen 0.0.0:5070 something like that

CaptWho · Post by **CaptWho** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:26 am

It's another password change. I'm running now.

jeffnyc · Post by **jeffnyc** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:15 pm

I ran mjsip and it displayed a bunch of different passwords. Will it be the last one?

Stroths did not retrieve anything, neither did magicsippac

using same username

update: it was the last one, i finally got it back up and running

my mj dongle is fully updated -unfortunately - does this mean my current password will not last too long?

CaptWho · Post by **CaptWho** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:25 pm

jeffnyc wrote:I ran mjsip and it displayed a bunch of different passwords. Will it be the last one?

Stroths did not retrieve anything, neither did magicsippac

not sure how to find if my usernumame change

I run SIPDump.exe (telling it to generate 3 dump files) towards the end of MJ's boot sequence and search the text files that it generates for the string "SIP.Connection.Refresh". The password is 20 characters, all in caps located near the second incidence of the search result. Now that I have the hang of it, it works like a charm for me.

nostrodamus · Post by **nostrodamus** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:54 pm

This is great..... Apparently my ATA stopped working some time in the last few days. From reading other posts it seems there was a "password change" applied to all the accounts.

Problem is now that I keep getting Error 401 with the dongle, which means I'm completely dead. If the dongle can't even connect, I can't get the new SIP info and get the ATA up and running again.

arcadia2uk · Post by **arcadia2uk** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:18 pm

I think I had a similar issue a while back. It ended up that the certificates where not accepted by my system, since I was backdated.
Make sure that you system date is correct.
Good Luck,
arc

kingjm · Post by **kingjm** » Sat Oct 23, 2010 1:12 pm

I have now done over 15 dumps. I am sure that I have found the new password and my userid has not changed. Yet I still cannot get the ata to register. I am stubborn and will not give up. I have had my ata working with mj for over a year until a few days ago. please help

neo2121 · Post by **neo2121** » Sat Oct 23, 2010 10:31 pm

kingjm wrote:I have now done over 15 dumps. I am sure that I have found the new password and my userid has not changed. Yet I still cannot get the ata to register. I am stubborn and will not give up. I have had my ata working with mj for over a year until a few days ago. please help

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