Google Terminates Gizmo5 :-(

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Google Terminates Gizmo5 :-(

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Hello.

Well, Google went and terminated Gizmo5 effective 3 April 2011. Here's the unpleasant notice:
From: Gizmo5 [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:39 PM
To: [email protected] (No, this isn't my real e-mail address. It just feels like it!)
Subject: Gizmo5 Important Update

Hello,

Gizmo5 is writing to let you know that we will no longer be providing service starting on April 3, 2011. A week from today, March 11, 2011, you will no longer be able to add credit to your account.
Although the standalone Gizmo5 client will no longer be available, we have since launched the ability to call phones from within Gmail at even more affordable rates.
Thank you,
The Gizmo5 Team

You have received this mandatory service announcement email to update you about important changes to your Gizmo5 account.
I've got a box full of old VoIP stuff including two expired magicJacks, a Skype-to-P.C.-to-analog-telephone interface, a thin client and soon I'll be adding an A.T.A. I've had it.

I'm increasing my Verizon Wireless telephone plan to unlimited minutes/month for an additional USD30.00/month and I can still use the wireless telephone with Google Voice and, fortunately, my home telephones because they're Bluetooth linked to the wireless telephone.

It was fun while it lasted, but it's all one giant pain-in-the-ass if you ask me.

I thought about signing up for Vonage's USD9.99/month light plan, but it's capped at 200 minutes/month and it's one more thing I need to maintain. Why not add another USD20.00/month, pay it all to Verizon, and have unlimited minutes on my wireless telephone?

Damn, I'm so annoyed. This reminds me of when magicJack instituted those outbound call caps, which is what got this whole thing started in the first place. Shame on you, Dan!

Oh well... I thought everyone would get a kick out of learning how my VoIP saga ended.

Too funny!
Thank you.

Lisa :)

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Post by sabresfan »

It's unfortunate that Google is shutting down Gizmo5. I have always had great call quality with Gizmo. Many have predicted this though as Google does not want to be classified as a phone company being subject to all the government regulations. Don't throw your ata away just yet. You can always setup with a provider like VOIP.ms, Callcentric or Localphone and have a way to make cheap international calls or just to have a backup to your cell.
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Post by Darkman90808 »

Any thought about how this my apply to Google Voice? I've always been concerned Google would drop it someday.
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Good morning, Darkman.
Darkman90808 wrote:Any thought about how this my apply to Google Voice? I've always been concerned Google would drop it someday.
That's just it. Who knows?!

Each time I've found a decent telephony solution, it gets blown up either by the whim of the company owner (in the case of magicJack), market volatility (in the case of Skype) or just plain killed (in the case of Gizmo5). Literally all of my savings in eliminated monthly fees goes out the window in buying new equipment and spending one month out of each year implementing a new telephony solution and working out the kinks. It's just doesn't make any sense to me.

So, I increase my annual wireless telephony costs by USD360.00/annum and needn't worry about market volatility (Verizon Wireless isn't going away anytime soon), whims of the company owner (Verizon Wireless' subscriber base is too large for them to say, okay, effective immediately we're no longer supporting CDMA wireless telephones and/or Verizon Wireless exiting the wireless telephony business altogether.

If you ask me, the Voice-over-IP industry killed itself. The only stable player in the market place has been Vonage so the folks who opted in on Vonage and renegotiated their terms as the telephony marketplace evolved were smart. Spending one month of my free time out of each year monkeying around with a new VoIP solution isn't my idea of fun. I want something that I don't have to reinvent every year.

In my opinion, the reason Google deep-sixed Gizmo5 is because Google believes that the trend toward personal telephony is wireless, not landline or SIP-based VoIP. I believe Google views Gizmo5 as a turnkey solution with no long-term viability in favor of untethered personal communications. And, do you know what? I think Google is right. People are replacing land lines with wireless telephones in droves. Most people aren't fussing around with ATA's and SIP gadgets. That pleasure is reserved for us geeks who enjoy learning new things (and torturing ourselves in the process.)

Google has deep pockets and Google Voice is a project. I think Google wants to figure out how they can be a complete 360° personal communications portal for consumers. That means e-mail, instant messaging and voice/video telephony. That's the direction Google Voice/Gmail/GoogleTalk seems to be taking. Once Google has a significant subscriber base using Google services as their personal communications portal, the money is in the data mining. That's my take anyway.

I'll continue to use Google Voice with my Verizon wireless telephone. But, now I'm limited to only two Google Voice telephone numbers since they restrict the number of times we can use forwarding telephone numbers. I already have my Verizon Wireless telephone setup as a home telephone on Google Voice so I can forward to the wireless telephone from two different Google Voice numbers.

All of the extra numbers I had going to my two Gizmo5 telephone lines will go out the window. :-(

I thought about exploring starting up a SIP-based telephone company, but what's the point? Vonage has been hit hard by the evolving personal telephony market and people just aren't moving in that direction. The direction is wireless (untethered). In my market alone we've had about four or five wireless telephony start-ups in the past 24 months. What does that tell you? Think untethered. That's where it's headed.

As much as I hate the idea of paying USD69.99/month for unlimited voice to Verizon Wireless, it's actually going to be a good deal in the long run since I won't have to reinvent my personal telephony solution once-a-year. T-Mobile increased their unlimited rate plan from USD49.99/month to USD59.99/month. There are other local start-up wireless providers with lower-cost unlimited rate plans, but poorer coverage, too. The thing to watch will be pricing. 18 months ago, Verizon Wireless' unlimited rate plan was USD99.99/month and T-mobile's unlimited rate plan was USD49.99/month. We'll just have to wait and see what consumers like.

One thing is clear. Consumers like being untethered. That's the real reason entities like Gizmo5 are a dying breed. I think Vonage will remain because they're the market leader in the SIP world and the only high-profile stable option alternative to Comcast and Verizon FiOS; both of which provide telephony service ridiculously inexpensively if one purchases a bundled package as most consumers do. I kind of get the feeling that my dry DSL loop might be the only one in Exton, Pennsylvania as Internet-only customers are probably a dying breed, too.

If I had my druthers, I'd like to see more competition in the broadband marketplace. Today, we have Comcast and Verizon and that's it. Clear doesn't count because Comcast has a piece of it. Clear is essentially Comcast wireless for Internet access. More competition in the broadband marketplace is a tough thing to get though. But, that's something I'll be watching.

Anyway, it's a lovely Saturday and I'm getting early spring fever. I'm getting too old to worry about which VoIP solution I'll implement this month at home, too. Hehe. So, remember to have fun and keep learning! :-)
Thank you.

Lisa :)

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lcompton wrote:Each time I've found a decent telephony solution, it gets blown up either by the whim of the company owner (in the case of magicJack), market volatility (in the case of Skype) or just plain killed (in the case of Gizmo5).
So what you can take away from this.... it is ALL YOUR FAULT!! :)

So in the future, IF you get back into VOIP, please warn us what service you are using so we can dump it before it goes under :)

hehehehehe
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Post by telltom »

i've just about had it too. I have the Nettalk Duo right now and it's been pretty good. If that fails me, i'm going with all three deal from Optimum and that's it. Pay the man.
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My thoughts are that wireless is evolving to where it will mainly just provide Internet access and eventually people will choose their own, probably SIP based, voice service to use on their wireless Internet device. I don't see VoIP failing or losing, I think it will dominate the marketplace soon, even on wireless devices such as smartphones and tablets.

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Good afternoon, Joe. :-)
bitstopjoe wrote:
lcompton wrote:Each time I've found a decent telephony solution, it gets blown up either by the whim of the company owner (in the case of magicJack), market volatility (in the case of Skype) or just plain killed (in the case of Gizmo5).
So what you can take away from this it is ALL YOUR FAULT!! :)

So in the future, IF you get back into VOIP, please warn us what service you are using so we can dump it before it goes under :)

hehehehehe
You know... You don't live far enough north of me to prevent me from driving up there and kicking your butt. :P Remember that! :)
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Post by lcompton »

Good afternoon, Dave.
Kif Kroker wrote:My thoughts are that wireless is evolving to where it will mainly just provide Internet access and eventually people will choose their own, probably SIP based, voice service to use on their wireless Internet device. I don't see VoIP failing or losing, I think it will dominate the marketplace soon, even on wireless devices such as smartphones and tablets.
I tend to agree with this in concept. It's not clear SIP will be the clear voice-over-IP-protocol winner, but since whatever does win will traverse an IP network ultimately, VoIP will be around for a long time. The key point is that it will be driven by consumer demand. And, the available evidence is that consumer demand wants untethered service.

Untethered service is where the industry is headed.
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lcompton wrote:Good afternoon, Joe. :-)You know... You don't live far enough north of me to prevent me from driving up there and kicking your butt. :P Remember that! :)
Promises, promises :)
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I've got a box full of old VoIP stuff including two expired magicJacks, a Skype-to-P.C.-to-analog-telephone interface, a thin client and soon I'll be adding an A.T.A. I've had it
I hear you. That's why I resisted all kinds of urges and stayed with my MJ, now in third year. I did not make out of my GV numbers my main numbers because I was not sure what could happen here.
Like somebody said, I would not throw out the ATA. Voip IS the cheap solution when you have broadband. BTW I agree that we need more broadband providers, better service and more competitive pricing but this is a political issue and after previous experience on this forum I hope that nobody goes there.
I do not use, but I like Localphone.com , good service and very international. Somebody who uses them just called me from overseas and the connection was perfect.
Reinventing telecom solutions every year is a hassle indeed and can be quite costly; I prefere here a conservative( in the sense of conserve) approach.
With T mobile you have to watch their specials and jump on the waggon at the right time. If you do so you can keep your special price for years to come.
You are certainly not alone with stand alone broadband . Myself and a growing number of people around here have that. Off course, they want to sign up for those damned bundles. Those are, BTW not that cheap, especially if you ( temporarily) negotiate down the price of your stand alone. Unlike with broadband, where you pay what you get quoted, the other services come , at least in our state, with a long list of taxes and surcharges so your first "bundle" bill may come out as an unpleasant surprise.
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I was surprised to read that Gizmo was being shut down. I have an account and didn't get an email. I don't use the account much and they may be why I didn't get a notice. I use GV a lot and would be disappointed if that was closed down. My plan for it being shut down is to port my GV number to my cell phone. My GV number forwards to my home and cell numbers. I like being able to text from a computer. If GV is shut down I would port my GV number to my cell. I would lose the texting from computer and ringing multiple phones. I don't understand why AT&T or Verizon doesn't do some of what GV does. It seems like another revenue stream to me.
I use Callcentic at home and am satisfied.
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Post by lcompton »

Good evening.

My Gizmo5 connections went dark at approximately 2130 EDT last evening.

R.I.P. Gizmo5. We loved you while you lived.
Thank you.

Lisa :)

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