Sounds like they're including some form of femtocell in it too. Perhaps Big Dan found a way around the roadblocks he faced before.
Keepin' fingers crossed.
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Indeed. It could be May of this year or next year or anytime before of after or never.
I know that a lot of folks are waiting for this. I personally do not care that much. I use MJ as a desk phone meaning I use it at my desk when my computer is turned on.
I would rather see a true three way calling capability.
V-Man wrote:I
Sounds like they're including some form of femtocell in it too. Perhaps Big Dan found a way around the roadblocks he faced before.
Nothing new here...
There is no actual wireless circuit built into the device to act as a traditional femtocell.
There will be an access number that you dial to remotely access your MJ+ account via the normal phone system that will act as a 'pinless' phone card. The same technique is in use today to access your international minutes. Works from any phone line, not just wireless.
See the FAQ here http://www.magicjack.com/5/faq/
Good Luck
CrackerJack
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Friend of mine is having problems with his MJ, about every 4 seconds there is a dead spot and you lose parts of the conversation. This is a dedicated PC for the MJ so we purchased the NetTalk Duo to replace the MJ since MJ doesn't even seem to know when they are going to put out the Plus.
The Duo set up without much fuss and I can honestly say that for him and for now the Duo works much better than the MJ. Time will tell if it will be a good long term phone service.
As for MJ. They need to reevaluate their advertising strategy. Rather than telling everyone that a product is going to be released and then never put it out or push the release date back time and again. They need to just do the R&D, make the product and have it ready for shipping and then announce it.
All MJ does under their current strategy is tick potential customers off.
My friend is going to be the guinea pig for me. And if the Duo works out well for him in the first year. I will probably replace my MJ with one.
That way I will be semi prepared when the NetTalk TV box comes out. If it comes out.
Depending on how they have it set up, for buying channels and what not I will be getting one, I have the Netflix Roku box and it works very good. If the NTTV is comparable to the Roku in quality and service, Dish and cable companies are going to be in trouble.
V-Man wrote:I
Sounds like they're including some form of femtocell in it too. Perhaps Big Dan found a way around the roadblocks he faced before.
Nothing new here...
There is no actual wireless circuit built into the device to act as a traditional femtocell.
There will be an access number that you dial to remotely access your MJ+ account via the normal phone system that will act as a 'pinless' phone card. The same technique is in use today to access your international minutes. Works from any phone line, not just wireless.
See the FAQ here http://www.magicjack.com/5/faq/
It sounds like a person would still have to use the cell service to use the MJ+ system.
If this is the case, I can't see how the MJ rout is any benefit.
Freedom1911 wrote: It sounds like a person would still have to use the cell service to use the MJ+ system.
If this is the case, I can't see how the MJ rout is any benefit.
No, no. Crackerjack is saying that ANY phone (not just wireless) can call the MJ access number to make both long distance in country calls OR International calls using the MJ infrastructure. While most cellular plans now include free nationwide calling, one could still use a cell phone to call the MJ access number then dial the international number and talk using their prepaid MJ international minutes.
OR
Say you're at a friend's house and need to make a long distance in-country call. You don't have your nationwide cell with you and the only telephone you have immediate access to is your friends land line. You could use THEIR landline to call the YOUR MJ access then make the long distance call using your VOIP account.
There are other scenarios but you get the idea. Much to AT&T's chagrin, the internet is fast becoming a low cost multiservice pipe line.
Ain't technology cool??
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Not wanting to be one of the nattering nabobs of negativism, but can you say "vaporware"? Sorry, but after what, years of promises, MJ is in the beta phase of number porting. I gotta believe MJ+ is going to be a little more complex than number porting.
Darkman90808 wrote:Not wanting to be one of the nattering nabobs of negativism, but can you say "vaporware"? Sorry, but after what, years of promises, MJ is in the beta phase of number porting. I gotta believe MJ+ is going to be a little more complex than number porting.
And not wanting to be accused, again, of being Dan or a shill, there is a difference between announcing beta number porting on your website, and demonstrating a product at a CES. Although the reviews of that product demo have been virtually impossible to find, the product does, or did, exist in some form in the recent past.
It is not beyond the possible that they have focused most of their resources on the Plus, as opposed to something like number porting, because heaven knows they are probably dead in the water if Plus is a bomb or doesn't come out.
Darkman90808 wrote:Not wanting to be one of the nattering nabobs of negativism, but can you say "vaporware"? Sorry, but after what, years of promises, MJ is in the beta phase of number porting. I gotta believe MJ+ is going to be a little more complex than number porting.
Not gonna argue about that! Just sayin' that technology in general is causing the internet to be the mother of all apps. Information, telephone, TV, etc etc etc.
Big Dan's 3 year track history has definitely shown most of his CES prototype anouncements never quite make it to mass production. Essentially, we still have the same little dongle as he first started selling in 2007. Sure, he's had some successes updating his infrastructure but to what end? If he doesn't at least come up with a computer free dongle like NetTalk, his successes may be short lived. The man needs to act now or he's gonna fall so far behind he'll never catch up.
His loss.....our gain. Competition drives advancements. Those that call their competition a "POS" typically have a bark much worse than their bite.
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Darkman90808 wrote:Not wanting to be one of the nattering nabobs of negativism, but can you say "vaporware"? Sorry, but after what, years of promises, MJ is in the beta phase of number porting. I gotta believe MJ+ is going to be a little more complex than number porting.
And not wanting to be accused, again, of being Dan or a shill, there is a difference between announcing beta number porting on your website, and demonstrating a product at a CES. Although the reviews of that product demo have been virtually impossible to find, the product does, or did, exist in some form in the recent past.
It is not beyond the possible that they have focused most of their resources on the Plus, as opposed to something like number porting, because heaven knows they are probably dead in the water if Plus is a bomb or doesn't come out.
I agree Dan......errr Nailgunner..... BUT, the femtoJack existed in prototype form in January of 2010 and look how well THAT worked out. Damn thing was obselete before Dan could get all his battles fought. SO, if his original magicJack idea wasn't just a fluke and Dan is half the visionary he touts himself to be, he most likely did dedicate all his engineering resources towards the MJ+ development and put number porting on hold.
As always, time will tell.
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Darkman90808 wrote:Not wanting to be one of the nattering nabobs of negativism, but can you say "vaporware"? Sorry, but after what, years of promises, MJ is in the beta phase of number porting. I gotta believe MJ+ is going to be a little more complex than number porting.
Not gonna argue about that! Just sayin' that technology in general is causing the internet to be the mother of all apps. Information, telephone, TV, etc etc etc.
Big Dan's 3 year track history has definitely shown most of his CES prototype announcements never quite make it to mass production. Essentially, we still have the same little dongle as he first started selling in 2007. Sure, he's had some successes updating his infrastructure but to what end? If he doesn't at least come up with a computer free dongle like NetTalk, his successes may be short lived. The man needs to act now or he's gonna fall so far behind he'll never catch up.
His loss.....our gain. Competition drives advancements. Those that call their competition a "POS" typically have a bark much worse than their bite.
Agreed on vaporware. MJ does a better job at saying they are going to produce something than they do at producing said something.
NetTalk has the product in production and it works, if NT does do the TV box, MJ will be paddling upstream without a oar.
NT is 10.00 a year more than MJ, and when you take in to acct that you are saving a years worth of electricity from not running your PC 24/7 you make that 10 and then some back. Also the possibility that the PC could have hardware problems or get hit by malware if it is not properly firewalled and have sufficient malware protection that is updatedand run regularly.
I have 4 years left on my MJ service and am considering the NTD anyway for what it could save me in potential PC repairs.
Freedom1911 wrote:I have 4 years left on my MJ service and am considering the NTD anyway for what it could save me in potential PC repairs.
Just a thought Freedom1911 but why don't you keep both?
A thin client for your magicJack can be had off ebay now for around $50 bucks. That would remove your running a full PC 24/7. That setup plus a Duo would give you two lines, if nothing else, each would function as a backup for the other.
I've had one or the other of mine down several times but I've never had both down at the SAME time. (I surrrre hope Murphy doesn't read this post!!)
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ok, I hate to sound uneducated or silly, but can someone tell me exactly what is a femtocell, and are you guys saying there is an access code with the current magicjack that one can dial from a landline to make free long distance calls nation wide?
sleeper43 wrote:ok, I hate to sound uneducated or silly, but can someone tell me exactly what is a femtocell, and are you guys saying there is an access code with the current magicjack that one can dial from a landline to make free long distance calls nation wide?
thanks
Google is your friend but femtocell is a non-starter in the context of magicjack.
There is only access number available to dial internationally with your MJ acct, provided you have deposited funds for that purpose. Maybe you can dial US but you will prolly pay 1 cent/minute for the privilege.
If you have a compatible smartphone, there is an app available from nettalk.com/smartphone that permits free US/Canada calls via your data plan that may serve your needs
Good Luck
CrackerJack
MagicJack Customer #73
MagicJack user since May 2007
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when i was chatting with that wonderful tech support about when the plus wold be here they told me i cold get a plus to day if i order on there site or call there number i got so exited she told me to hold and she wold get me the phone number so i cold call to order one well it terns out that she was wrong and that it wold be here with in 3 month from now but she could not give be a exact date but she did give me the number to call that in it self is amazing! but i was not to happy i wanted one to day here the number to call 1 800.649-1271 i did call the number it just to order the original jack at the moment one thing we all know about magicjack its a real Waiting game !