magicJack and magicJack Plus Support, Reviews, FAQs and Tricks

gnimsh wrote:Um, do you guys not have a VM you can run windows in? That's what I do if I'm desperate, but it works just fine as a sound device in ubuntu 8.04 as long as you have your SIP info for a softphone. Annoyance: must click the answer button to pick up the call, cannot just pick up the phone, and also cannot dial from the phone. Also the phone does not ring, and if I set the ringer to the phone it sends the ringer to the headset instead.

Getting past that, I spoke with them yesterday and they actually told me that they have their engineers working on this as well which was quite a surprise, and I'm very happy about this. I would love to have a softphone which works as well with a real phone attached as the MJ in windows does and am hoping that they can do this.

Any updates on running MJ with Linux? I've not used a VM.

If any threads cover this, please direct me to them. Thanks.

Agent_86 wrote:Old post, but I like it anyhow

We want LINUX support weeeeeeee Please

If you give me linux support for this device I promise never to use Windows again.
SERIOUSLY,

magicjackster wrote:Hello folks,

Dan Borislow has spoken with Laptop magazine about a slew of upcoming features (number portability, linux support, and more). Check it out.

http://blog.laptopmag.com/magicjack-inv ... e-and-more

Let me second that one.... If I had either Linux support or the ability to run MJ from my ATA, I'd wipe the Windows partition permanently and never look back.

Hi,

I've not looked into this in a while, but in the mean time I've deleted my windows partition I was tired of it being there.

Never booted to it anyhow, and I updated my Ubuntu to 8.04 now so I figured just let the install program take over the hard drive it's simpler to install anyhow.

I'm still hoping for linux support some day.
I'll research a bit and see if there have been any changes or if anyone got this working on linux ext. would be nice to get working on wine or something.

linux support will bring you three things:

1. total portability (beyond windows and mac / mac is a bsd unix, in fact)
2. universal respect! (especially from the open source folks)
3. proportional revenue increase! (you will be amazed how many new customers you will have, coming from linux!)

just my $.02
Daniel

MS is gone, so will need MJ to work on Linux to use it again.

dmarinescu wrote:linux support will bring you three things:

1. total portability (beyond windows and mac / mac is a bsd unix, in fact)
2. universal respect! (especially from the open source folks)
3. proportional revenue increase! (you will be amazed how many new customers you will have, coming from linux!)

just my $.02
Daniel

That's just the beginning.

4. Linux makes more sense for machines that run 24/7. Windows misbehaves and needs to be rebooted after a few days, Linux doesn't. Reduces MJ's support costs!

5. Linux is ideal for small-footprint, low-energy-usage hardware like "thin clients" and solid, inexpensive little diskless machines like the Eee. Linux also breathes new life into old PCs, and you can eliminate the hard disk and boot as a LiveCD on just about any PC, providing a super-reliable, super-inexpensive solution. There would be a whole cottage industry emerging to implement MJ on small machines running Linux.

6. At the same time, Linux is the top choice for high-uptime servers in businesses large and small. An office's IT guy could stuff dozens of MJs into a powerful server, providing telephone service to the entire office.

7. MJ would bring telephony to pocketable, Linux-based "internet tablets" like the Nokia 800. Sure, they can already run things like Skype, but as we all know, MJ has significant advantages.

8. Three words: No Windows Updates! No consequently-broken software, no spontaneous reboots, no mysterious new incompatibilities.

9. You can bet that within a couple weeks of release of Linux native drivers, folks will get it working for direct connection to a USB port on Netgear's Open Source Router. I'd buy a new router just for that! (Are you listening, Netgear?) Similarly for Linux-based Network Attached Storage devices that people use for backup and sharing files.

...and on and on. Get MagicJack working natively on Linux, and get ready for an absolute explosion of innovation.

I'd be all over another magicjack for my n800 Internet Tablet if they got Linux working!!

I agree that linux makes more sense for this sort of "server" function that runs 24x7.

I don't even need the UI on linux when it's running fine. A headless way of launching MagicJack would be sufficient.

It seems to me that the crucial part that is missing when running as a daemon in Linux is that you're not looking at the ad that they have in their GUI.

While I have dreams of plugging this into my headless Ubuntu AFP/NFS box in the back closet, and then spreading it through the rest of my home's phone lines, I'm not holding my breath for the legit developers to release Linux CLI based support.

Seems like someone /some group is going to need to reverse engineer the HW.

Who knows.....count me +1 for Linux support though!

JC

sjinsjca wrote:

dmarinescu wrote:linux support will bring you three things:

1. total portability (beyond windows and mac / mac is a bsd unix, in fact)
2. universal respect! (especially from the open source folks)
3. proportional revenue increase! (you will be amazed how many new customers you will have, coming from linux!)

just my $.02
Daniel

That's just the beginning.

4. Linux makes more sense for machines that run 24/7. Windows misbehaves and needs to be rebooted after a few days, Linux doesn't. Reduces MJ's support costs!

Sorry, that's all bark & no bite. I use several XP boxes at home and at work... None of them need to be rebooted, BSOD, etc. As a matter of fact, while our XP boxes are rock solid, our G5's running OSX -do- need to be rebooted occasionally. My linux boxes are pretty solid as well.

5. Linux is ideal for small-footprint, low-energy-usage hardware like "thin clients" and solid, inexpensive little diskless machines like the Eee. Linux also breathes new life into old PCs, and you can eliminate the hard disk and boot as a LiveCD on just about any PC, providing a super-reliable, super-inexpensive solution. There would be a whole cottage industry emerging to implement MJ on small machines running Linux.

I couldn't agree more and will take it a step futher. Why bother booting from a Live cd when you can just install Linux onto a small USB flash drive? Totally disk/disc-less, totally silent, extremely cheap. I can't even tell if my Linux boxes are on unless I ssh in and get a login prompt. Love it!

6. At the same time, Linux is the top choice for high-uptime servers in businesses large and small. An office's IT guy could stuff dozens of MJs into a powerful server, providing telephone service to the entire office.

Second half is true, first half isn't.

7. MJ would bring telephony to pocketable, Linux-based "internet tablets" like the Nokia 800. Sure, they can already run things like Skype, but as we all know, MJ has significant advantages.

No comment.

8. Three words: No Windows Updates! No consequently-broken software, no spontaneous reboots, no mysterious new incompatibilities.

Again, all bark no bite.

9. You can bet that within a couple weeks of release of Linux native drivers, folks will get it working for direct connection to a USB port on Netgear's Open Source Router. I'd buy a new router just for that! (Are you listening, Netgear?) Similarly for Linux-based Network Attached Storage devices that people use for backup and sharing files.

I know plenty of people who say the same thing.

...and on and on. Get MagicJack working natively on Linux, and get ready for an absolute explosion of innovation.

Let's get Windows out of the way first... MS gets a bad wrap for system instability, incompatibility, etc. when 9 times out of 10 the problem isn't with Windows at all. It has a lot more to do with poorly coded 3rd party software and/or cheap hardware (specifically RAM, PSU's, and mainboards being the major culprits). There are plenty of people who've built rock solid and stable Windows boxes. It's an obvious to produce a product like this for the Windows platform first considering the hundreds of millions of computers running XP or Vista. Linux? Not even close.

Now that the silly Windows bashing has been dealt with... Linux is in many ways an untapped market. As with most products, there are certainly existing design flaws but Linux clearly has benefits to help level the playing field. When Linux drivers become available for the Magicjack, you -will- see people taking full advantage. The truth is with Linux, as already pointed out, you can have a head/disk/mouse/keyboard-less small footprint low power server running 24/7 and the beauty is you don't need much horse power, RAM, or anything really.

I'm very anxious to move my Magicjack to one of my Linux boxes and I'm a little surprised some bored teenager somewhere hasn't already got it up & running. The phone networking potential is what's really caught my eye.

ice cold beer wrote:

sjinsjca wrote:

dmarinescu wrote:linux support will bring you three things:

1. total portability (beyond windows and mac / mac is a bsd unix, in fact)
2. universal respect! (especially from the open source folks)
3. proportional revenue increase! (you will be amazed how many new customers you will have, coming from linux!)

just my $.02
Daniel

That's just the beginning.

4. Linux makes more sense for machines that run 24/7. Windows misbehaves and needs to be rebooted after a few days, Linux doesn't. Reduces MJ's support costs!

Sorry, that's all bark & no bite. I use several XP boxes at home and at work... None of them need to be rebooted, BSOD, etc. As a matter of fact, while our XP boxes are rock solid, our G5's running OSX -do- need to be rebooted occasionally. My linux boxes are pretty solid as well.

5. Linux is ideal for small-footprint, low-energy-usage hardware like "thin clients" and solid, inexpensive little diskless machines like the Eee. Linux also breathes new life into old PCs, and you can eliminate the hard disk and boot as a LiveCD on just about any PC, providing a super-reliable, super-inexpensive solution. There would be a whole cottage industry emerging to implement MJ on small machines running Linux.

I couldn't agree more and will take it a step futher. Why bother booting from a Live cd when you can just install Linux onto a small USB flash drive? Totally disk/disc-less, totally silent, extremely cheap. I can't even tell if my Linux boxes are on unless I ssh in and get a login prompt. Love it!

6. At the same time, Linux is the top choice for high-uptime servers in businesses large and small. An office's IT guy could stuff dozens of MJs into a powerful server, providing telephone service to the entire office.

Second half is true, first half isn't.

7. MJ would bring telephony to pocketable, Linux-based "internet tablets" like the Nokia 800. Sure, they can already run things like Skype, but as we all know, MJ has significant advantages.

No comment.

8. Three words: No Windows Updates! No consequently-broken software, no spontaneous reboots, no mysterious new incompatibilities.

Again, all bark no bite.

9. You can bet that within a couple weeks of release of Linux native drivers, folks will get it working for direct connection to a USB port on Netgear's Open Source Router. I'd buy a new router just for that! (Are you listening, Netgear?) Similarly for Linux-based Network Attached Storage devices that people use for backup and sharing files.

I know plenty of people who say the same thing.

...and on and on. Get MagicJack working natively on Linux, and get ready for an absolute explosion of innovation.

Let's get Windows out of the way first... MS gets a bad wrap for system instability, incompatibility, etc. when 9 times out of 10 the problem isn't with Windows at all. It has a lot more to do with poorly coded 3rd party software and/or cheap hardware (specifically RAM, PSU's, and mainboards being the major culprits). There are plenty of people who've built rock solid and stable Windows boxes. It's an obvious to produce a product like this for the Windows platform first considering the hundreds of millions of computers running XP or Vista. Linux? Not even close.

Now that the silly Windows bashing has been dealt with... Linux is in many ways an untapped market. As with most products, there are certainly existing design flaws but Linux clearly has benefits to help level the playing field. When Linux drivers become available for the Magicjack, you -will- see people taking full advantage. The truth is with Linux, as already pointed out, you can have a head/disk/mouse/keyboard-less small footprint low power server running 24/7 and the beauty is you don't need much horse power, RAM, or anything really.

I'm very anxious to move my Magicjack to one of my Linux boxes and I'm a little surprised some bored teenager somewhere hasn't already got it up & running. The phone networking potential is what's really caught my eye.

Well, I must agree with #6, this is very true, and still most of the servers on the net or either Unix or Linux based this is statistical fact.

I also must say #8 is also true, as a computer technician I make all my money fixing windows problems. Not always third party software or hardware related problems either. So I would have to say this is not just all Bark and no Bite, but all Bark and All Bite in all honesty. I've had computers that would not even load windows and run for more then 5 min. without crashing or rebooting. I suspected hardware problems etc. as it seems logical. But for kicks I started loading Linux on these same suspected defective hardware. This was after every supposed guru out there was saying this and that, and all kinds of suggestions which I tried, and also even suggesting that you can't use windows on cheap computer you have to get the high end stuff.

That was about the last straw for me, I loaded linux on them and they worked perfectly, never crashed, never rebooted, never froze up. So I can tell you from experience with many,many,many installation of computer software and equipment that in my experience my opinion is that windows is under developed and is not fully compatible with all hardware as they would have you believe that it is.
And althought I do agree there are additional problems such as third party and hardware issues, the main ingredient for these problem very well could also be the under developed windows OS which caused the third party software problem to begin with.
All I can say is computers that would not run windows, could not run windows with any stability. Did and could run almost all distros of Linux very stable.
That tells me a lot about having much Bark and Much Bite. And now the under developed Vista appears to be a flop as well.
Don't get me wrong if windows worked really really well as the experience I've been having with my Linux computers I would have kept using it. But I just could not deal with it any more, nor the strings that are attached to it such as: virus protection manditory, spam blocker and popup blocker manditory, orphan file cleaners mandatory. registry cleaner maniditory.firewall almost manditory.
I don't need all that with Linux and I don't want it.
Linux seems to be more productive to me.
Although I still sell people windows computer but I highly and strongly recommend that they consider linux. And against my recommendations many still insist on windows, however they still end up bringing them back for service after they install a game or 2 which fouls things up.
Anyhow thats all I can say.
Happy hacking.

Let's keep this thread open in hopes of getting latest news of LINUX support for MagicJack. I personally will buy an additional MagicJack when I hear of Linux system support. Thinking this would be a very good item with a acers aspire one netbook that runs on Linux.

voiper wrote:Let's keep this thread open in hopes of getting latest news of LINUX support for MagicJack. I personally will buy an additional MagicJack when I hear of Linux system support. Thinking this would be a very good item with a acers aspire one netbook that runs on Linux.

Yes I would buy them in lots of 10-20 and include phone service with the sale of my linux computers.

They would love it, I have sooo many happy linux customers and many of them never even used a computer so the reverse learning or fear of change is not an issue.

Pretty much whatever people started to use they don't want to change. I remember having the hardest time excepting windows back when everything was dos, even all the games were dos.

However, with my new computer users buying a linux computer they just use it, join the linux community which I've setup a sort of what to do next document on their computer and they just use it and really no service involved at all EVER.

It's really amazing the difference in the amount of service calls I get between windows and linux computer sales.

I have only had 1 service call for linux out of 50 computers or so. But 1 out of 50 and not a glitch or some sort of repair job etc.

I get about 25 out of 50 calls on windows stuff, but only about 10 of those are things they cannot fix over the phone. And keeping in mind this is mostly new computer users. The windows users do not have as many problems, however I still have about 1 out of 10 at least have some sort of OS problem that needs fixing.I have some customers bring in their computer once a month on a regular basis because of things they messed up.S they have to bring in for reloading, or some other OS issue. Usually they downloaded some music or some music program or some sort of player that had spyware on it or something and they can't even boot now. It's taken over their computer.

They also decide to load other virus software on top of virus software that is on the computer even after telling them no too, but since they loaded a game or something that is messing up they don't know what else to do ? so they basically mess things up further by loading additional spyblocker which is a malicious software package, then yet another one on top of that trying to solve the problem by just downloading everything in site. And several free virus packages which some of them are viruses themselves LOL

Anyhow we are all aware of the problem for windows users. If you know what your doing you may not have those problems, but perhaps other problems.

But I must confirm this subject. Linux Users I sell computers to, even new users do not call me with problems about their computer nor do they call and complain about how they spend money on something and it's just not working right etc etc.

I can't help but notice the difference in the service calls. Granted that it's not good for business necessarily since I don't get many service calls on the linux computer, however I must say it's very peaceful to know that this computer sale will not be coming back again. And they refer others all the time so my advertising is down to almost nothing.

I tried linux as an experiment to see if another OS would run on these so called defective computer and they ran,run and keep going that says it all to me.

Anyhow lets keep the talking going for linux support.
And yes I would buy many of these MJ's for linux and include them with my linux computers.

Any latest news of LINUX support for MagicJack?

Linux support is holding up a lot my friends from using Ubuntu or fedora. But, i dunno how it will run on it, since there are so many different types of Linux. Unless its packed with stuff for the most common used distros, I think its gonna be hard for em. But, I could be wrong, and also there's prolly a way. (The hardware part is fine, but I dunno how the software will work.). so BTW no, no news about linux support for the Magic Jack, infact the off-shore tech support seems as though they don't know what Linux is. Gnimish's idea works great as a makeshift though voiper.
Peace
Kumar

Instead of spending time and money trying to write Linux drivers themselves, why doesn't MagicJack just get the Linux developers to do it for free?

There are a ton of Linux developers (including myself) who would gladly help write a driver.

http://www.kroah.com/log/linux/free_drivers.html

Why wait for them to ask? Info for the chipset they use should be available, if not publicly then with an NDA.

ice cold beer wrote:Why wait for them to ask? Info for the chipset they use should be available, if not publicly then with an NDA.

NDA does not work since anything "hidden" via NDA is exposed as soon as the code is released. In addition, I understand that the actual hardware vendor does have linux drivers. The thing that is missing is the interface software between the hardware drivers and the MJ servers as well as the UI.

MJ is keeping the server interface details to themselves and without that info it will be difficult for anyone to to write the needed software.

I don't think they will release linux drivers anytime soon..the reason I think is that it would be hard for them to hide the sip info in linux.

hvengel wrote:

ice cold beer wrote:Why wait for them to ask? Info for the chipset they use should be available, if not publicly then with an NDA.

NDA does not work since anything "hidden" via NDA is exposed as soon as the code is released. In addition, I understand that the actual hardware vendor does have linux drivers. The thing that is missing is the interface software between the hardware drivers and the MJ servers as well as the UI.

MJ is keeping the server interface details to themselves and without that info it will be difficult for anyone to to write the needed software.

I know a few Linux driver developers who've had to sign NDA's while working on open-source drivers. I think it's less about 'secrets' leaking via source code as it is knowing the real capabilities of the chip(s) because you've seen the documentation.

As long as you've got a means to communicate with the hardware (ie: drivers), then you should be able to fill in the blanks yourself. Things like UI are irrelevant.

I'm waiting for MagicJack's Linux debut.
Also, sure would be nice to get specifications for the hardware so that we could use it for other things...

Agent_86 wrote:Old post, but I like it anyhow

We want LINUX support weeeeeeee Please

I will second that motion, and I feel highly confident in saying that many others would as well. Just do a quick google search for "magicJack Linux" and you will instantly see WHY I feel so confident in that remark!

Come on if you can do it for BSD (MacOSX) you can do it for Linux just as easily!

Anyone know if it could possibly be run in Linux using Wine? I tried googling, my question has been asked before, but never answered, and no one seems to have been successful in getting it running under Linux in any way. Someone in the following thread came close, though.

http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org ... p?t=511689

robatino wrote:Anyone know if it could possibly be run in Linux using Wine? I tried googling, my question has been asked before, but never answered, and no one seems to have been successful in getting it running under Linux in any way. Someone in the following thread came close, though.

http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org ... p?t=511689

i personally have found that vodka works better and faster.

robatino wrote:Anyone know if it could possibly be run in Linux using Wine? I tried googling, my question has been asked before, but never answered, and no one seems to have been successful in getting it running under Linux in any way. Someone in the following thread came close, though.

http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org ... p?t=511689

I have seen a few answers but they have all been a "no", MJ does not seem to work on wine.

I have seen many claim that it DOES work on VMWare running a Windows guest and even ran across one who said he used ReactOS (Windows Clone) and had it working. I have tried VMWare (w/ WinXP guest), VirtualBox (w/ WinXP guest), VMWare (w/ ReactOS guest) and even wine... no luck on either!

Oddly enough in VMWare and in VirtualBox when I add USB to guest I can select to use my printer, and my external drive but NOT the MajicJack, it is listed in USB devices but it just shows as unavailable!

Guess I will just have to wait for the Linux Driver or give up completely on MJ. I already bought an XP license for my VM for software I still need that runs on XP, I refuse to buy a whole new computer and XP license to get a $20 device working!

How can a user such as myself weigh in on this issue? I would love to see MJ work in Ubuntu. Does Dan or his crew ever see these comments?

Here's someone who claims they got Magic Jack to work using a Windows XP virtual machine in VirtualBox. VirtualBox is really easy to install - they have .deb and .rpm packages - so I'm tempted to try it.

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=705091

I believe you will find the same or a similar post on this forum, with a bit more detail. If I can remember the name of the poster, I'll come back and edit my message here.

I agree about Virtual Box being easy to use. I have Windows XP running under Ubuntu 8.04 and Ubuntu running uder Windows XP, just for the fun of it. However, I've never been able to get my MJ to work in the virtual Windows.

I have yet to drink the Linux/Ubuntu kool-aid.

I have an EEE PC, the original 2g surf,so its resources are limited. I bought it as a back up to my regular notebook. I wanted something relatively inexpensive to be able to leave on 24/7 with Skype running. ( I live overseas)I then found out about Majicjack and purchased one.

I was disappointed that Linux was not supported and rather than try all the workarounds, elected to format my drive and install TINY XP. I am amazed at how well it works on a computer with such limited ram and processor power and all PnP peripherals such as bluetooth install with no problem.

Although I am not a big fan of MS, for my purposes Linux is just a bit too much of a hassle.

CDNinKS wrote:<<snipped>>

Although I am not a big fan of MS, for my purposes Linux is just a bit too much of a hassle.

I'm with you. I like to tinker as much as the next guy, but so far, it's been too big of a challenge for me.

If Linux support is added in the future, will this capability be available as a software upgrade for existing MJ dongles? Also, do these devices have software for all supported OSes simultaneously installed? And how much memory do they have, and how much of that is taken up by the software currently installed on them?

I ordered and received a magicJack, and have it working in Linux! (Well, actually, in VirtualBox with Fedora 9 host / Windows XP guest.)

After booting up in my "real" Windows XP, letting it download the software update, and completing the registration, I verified that it works properly there. Then I booted up in Fedora and started up VirtualBox as root, since it currently won't detect USB devices when run as an ordinary user. (I know it's possible to edit some config files to make this work, but I don't fully understand the changes, so have resisted doing it so far.) Then, starting up the Windows XP guest with the MJ plugged in, the MJ software loads and everything works, except that if I use a telephone, the phone rings at the other end, but neither of us can hear the other, and after 20-30 seconds we are disconnected. So I switched from the telephone to my USB headset with microphone, and that works. The sound quality is fairly good, though not perfect as with Vonage. Anyone have any ideas why using the telephone won't work?

In the Windows Control Panel, there are two magicJack entries, F: and G:. The second shows the MJ as a 17.5 MB Mass Storage device with only about 2% of the space used. Next time I'll examine the files to see if there's anything OS-specific or if it's just generic configuration info.

Edit: Sorry, meant "My Computer", not "Control Panel". I don't use Windows too often. I checked again and didn't see anything OS-specific in there, so I'm guessing that if MJ starts supporting Linux, existing MJ devices should be able to use it.

I have it working right now in VMWare Server 2.0 (WinXP Guest).

I tried Virtual Box for a bit and it did work but the USB drivers kept getting disconnected.

Once I switched to the free VMWare 2.0 (on a Mandriva 2008.1 "Spring" server) all was well.

One note:

My server is running 2x Xeon Dual Cores (4 cpu's total) and 8 Gigs of RAM. I realize this is a bit more than the average user will have on hand at home, but I only give 1 CPU and 1024 MB ram to the guest XP VM.


While this works well and I see no issues, I would rather not have to run VMWare so I can free up resources for other tasks (multiple J2EE Appservers test installs running for testing purposes requires much ram/cpu).

When running VirtualBox the Linux host gets disconnected from the USB devices and stays disconnected even after the guest OS is stopped, until the USB devices are unplugged/plugged back in (or the host is rebooted). This is an old VirtualBox bug. It's less of an inconvenience for me than the fact that it's necessary to run Windows virtually at all, instead of native Linux support.

I do experience some audio stuttering, but it's probably due to the virtualization since I had the same trouble when recording from the microphone and playing it back in the headset.

Magicjack inventor plans?
Plans what!?
Doesn't look like Dan does allot of planning these days.

More action, less talk!

The Linux challenge is not technical, but financial. magicJack's service is so inexpensive because it is supported by advertising. Even though the ToS says that there is advertising both on the control panel and in the talk path, so far there is only advertising on the control panel.

If MJ cannot figure out how to inject advertising into the talk path (in a manner that does not cause subscribers to quit), they will not be able to offer service at the current price on any other platform (Linux, BYOD ATA, etc.)

mberlant wrote:The Linux challenge is not technical, but financial. magicJack's service is so inexpensive because it is supported by advertising. Even though the ToS says that there is advertising both on the control panel and in the talk path, so far there is only advertising on the control panel.

If MJ cannot figure out how to inject advertising into the talk path (in a manner that does not cause subscribers to quit), they will not be able to offer service at the current price on any other platform (Linux, BYOD ATA, etc.)

They could support the same client, with the control panel advertising, on Linux. Since they already support OS X, which is similar, it shouldn't be too much work. And it would reduce the number of people getting the SIP info in order to use another client - which is much easier and more efficient than running the Windows client in a VM.

Edit: The same is true for any other OS, though it would require more work than Linux which is similar to OS X. Of course your point is valid for BYOD, since in that case there's no other way to deliver the ads.

I guess I am lazy.

I had one port unused on the router to which all my Linux boxes are connected. I bought a $4 computer at the thrift store, cleaned it off and installed XP. It runs my MJ and I have installed tightVNC on it and can bring it up on any of the linux boxes so the win machine just sits in the closet.

I will soon be replacing the $4 machine with a Thin Client that is already in the postal system to me. It will run XPe. I hope that supports tightVNC

sjinsjca wrote:

dmarinescu wrote:linux support will bring you three things:

1. total portability (beyond windows and mac / mac is a bsd unix, in fact)
2. universal respect! (especially from the open source folks)
3. proportional revenue increase! (you will be amazed how many new customers you will have, coming from linux!)

just my $.02
Daniel

That's just the beginning.

4. Linux makes more sense for machines that run 24/7. Windows misbehaves and needs to be rebooted after a few days, Linux doesn't. Reduces MJ's support costs!

5. Linux is ideal for small-footprint, low-energy-usage hardware like "thin clients" and solid, inexpensive little diskless machines like the Eee. Linux also breathes new life into old PCs, and you can eliminate the hard disk and boot as a LiveCD on just about any PC, providing a super-reliable, super-inexpensive solution. There would be a whole cottage industry emerging to implement MJ on small machines running Linux.

6. At the same time, Linux is the top choice for high-uptime servers in businesses large and small. An office's IT guy could stuff dozens of MJs into a powerful server, providing telephone service to the entire office.

7. MJ would bring telephony to pocketable, Linux-based "internet tablets" like the Nokia 800. Sure, they can already run things like Skype, but as we all know, MJ has significant advantages.

8. Three words: No Windows Updates! No consequently-broken software, no spontaneous reboots, no mysterious new incompatibilities.

9. You can bet that within a couple weeks of release of Linux native drivers, folks will get it working for direct connection to a USB port on Netgear's Open Source Router. I'd buy a new router just for that! (Are you listening, Netgear?) Similarly for Linux-based Network Attached Storage devices that people use for backup and sharing files.

...and on and on. Get MagicJack working natively on Linux, and get ready for an absolute explosion of innovation.

There are so many things WRONG with this post...never mind. I'm out of here. I can afford a real phone.

henryr01 wrote:

sjinsjca wrote:

dmarinescu wrote:linux support will bring you three things:

1. total portability (beyond windows and mac / mac is a bsd unix, in fact)
2. universal respect! (especially from the open source folks)
3. proportional revenue increase! (you will be amazed how many new customers you will have, coming from linux!)

just my $.02
Daniel

That's just the beginning.

4. Linux makes more sense for machines that run 24/7. Windows misbehaves and needs to be rebooted after a few days, Linux doesn't. Reduces MJ's support costs!

5. Linux is ideal for small-footprint, low-energy-usage hardware like "thin clients" and solid, inexpensive little diskless machines like the Eee. Linux also breathes new life into old PCs, and you can eliminate the hard disk and boot as a LiveCD on just about any PC, providing a super-reliable, super-inexpensive solution. There would be a whole cottage industry emerging to implement MJ on small machines running Linux.

6. At the same time, Linux is the top choice for high-uptime servers in businesses large and small. An office's IT guy could stuff dozens of MJs into a powerful server, providing telephone service to the entire office.

7. MJ would bring telephony to pocketable, Linux-based "internet tablets" like the Nokia 800. Sure, they can already run things like Skype, but as we all know, MJ has significant advantages.

8. Three words: No Windows Updates! No consequently-broken software, no spontaneous reboots, no mysterious new incompatibilities.

9. You can bet that within a couple weeks of release of Linux native drivers, folks will get it working for direct connection to a USB port on Netgear's Open Source Router. I'd buy a new router just for that! (Are you listening, Netgear?) Similarly for Linux-based Network Attached Storage devices that people use for backup and sharing files.

...and on and on. Get MagicJack working natively on Linux, and get ready for an absolute explosion of innovation.

There are so many things WRONG with this post...never mind. I'm out of here. I can afford a real phone.

Nothing wrong here, exactly true.
I'm a computer technician and fix windows problem all day for people.
I also sell Linux computers and have not had (1) service call Did I say NOT (1) this speaks volumes.

And Yes Windows computers are known to have a problem with file degradation it's a known fact.
Search google on why windows files degrade.

And afford ability is not the point, it's the principal of the amount being charged. MJ has proven that there is a better way. And that it can be done.
Although not perfect, it has been done. And keeps getting better.

The only thing that can really make it better is linux support I agree.

Based on the principal again the cost to keep a Windows Computer Running, Virus Protection cost, Spyware cost and the fact that all this extra scanning of your windows computer continues to write data to and from the hard drive all day long just burning up your hard drive faster. And the huge cost of the OS itself and regular maint. if you don't know how to fix it yourself you have to pay for program and/or call ME a techincian to fix it.
Which I can't complain because I make money off of this big MS rip off. But I have been slowly converting people to Linux and guess what I've only recieved compliments and never get any service calls.
Thats right NEVER 1 service call.
Thats all I know

The reason you have received no service calls is that Linux DOESNT CRASH....Period....QED

According to

http://blog.laptopmag.com/magicjack-sco ... -2009-2010

Linux support is planned for the 3rd quarter of this year, and should be available for both current and new magicJacks. Of course, in real life, that probably means sometime next year (assuming MJ is still in business, of course).

I just installed ubuntu 9.04 on an old machine. It's incredible and this new version is going to be a Windows killer. The magicjack didn't work on it.

I think a lot of old PCs sitting idle or ready to throw out could be put to good use dedicated to magicJack on ubuntu or some linux flavor.

They already have linux boot CDs to turn your old computer into a dedicated firewall like Smoothwall Express and I'm thinking a boot CD to turn an old piece of crap computer into something dedicated to work with magicjack would be a possible.

You could build it with security so only the magicjack can get in and out to the Internet and just leave it to be useful again.

The combo personal firewall and magicJack boot CD for Linux would be a killer app IMHO.

[quote="vszasz"]I just installed ubuntu 9.04 on an old machine. It's incredible and this new version is going to be a Windows killer. The magicjack didn't work on it.

I also run Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop and the netbook Version, very solid and nice.

You should also check out the latest PuppyLinux it also rocks and runs in under 100Meg. Very Fast and looks like Vista without the crashes or BS.

I would love to See MJ port MJ with the option to a USB bootable with the PuppyLinux as it takes almost no space <100MB. very easy to config also.

If the magicjack lights up, it works. Linux uses it as a soundcard that you can hook up to a sip phone like twinkle.

gnimsh wrote:If the magicjack lights up, it works. Linux uses it as a soundcard that you can hook up to a sip phone like twinkle.

Would you happen to have very simple step by step instructions on how to do this.

I'm using linux sabayon.

Yes. http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/linu ... -t739.html

Thanks, that looks too complicated for me at this time.

I hope MJ decides to get working with Linux.