magicJack and magicJack Plus Support, Reviews, FAQs and Tricks

Posted: **Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:21 pm**

Hey Clients,

Ok well after reading the reviews for weeks here today my T5710 is up and running. Picked it up Ebay for 60.00 came with keyboard and mouse to boot. Actually it looks new and was in the original shipping box. I did have to upgrade the flash drive and memory from 256/256 to a 1gb Apacer [DOM] 44pin module picked that up on Ebay not to cheap but made it easy to interchange from the original. That ran me another $54.00 but worth it. And lastly I added a 512mb stick memory module no charge got that from a old laptop upgrade. Flashed the firmware and OS Xpe. Now working on custom Xpe for the MJ module. Nice and quiet and low power as many have expressed running a PC 24/7 which I had been doing also.

MH

Posted: **Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:28 pm**

mhilife wrote:Hey Clients,

Ok well after reading the reviews for weeks here today my T5710 is up and running. Picked it up Ebay for 60.00 came with keyboard and mouse to boot. Actually it looks new and was in the original shipping box. I did have to upgrade the flash drive and memory from 256/256 to a 1gb Apacer [DOM] 44pin module picked that up on Ebay not to cheap but made it easy to interchange from the original. That ran me another $54.00 but worth it. And lastly I added a 512mb stick memory module no charge got that from a old laptop upgrade. Flashed the firmware and OS Xpe. Now working on custom Xpe for the MJ module. Nice and quiet and low power as many have expressed running a PC 24/7 which I had been doing also.

MH

Glad you got it running. I wish you would have read my posting though because you can get the 1GB Transcend DOM for about $20 cheaper shipped. You should have fun with your new toy

Posted: **Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:33 pm**

rootsnluv wrote:Hi Guys l am interested in Thin Client device solution to this MJ running 24/7 on a computer problem. l really need help, l have no money and its that serious, l cant afford a pin now, if there is a site l can downloan this device or a software or something l could do for free or get for free please show me so l could run my MJ on instead of the computer, do let me know, l am broke and do not have the money to buy the Thin Client thing, if anyone has a spare thin client, l would be happy to get that , l really could do with this favor guys and gals. l need to have my MJ running on something 24/7 and not on my comp, my comp is slow and it got too much stuff on it since l use it to for alot of things and running the MJ on it is killing it.Thanks alot

I appreciate your enthusiasm, but you won't find anyone willing to give a thin client up for free. My suggestion would be to piece together a cheap or free PC. Use that until you can afford something more or not. You might even look around at the trash dumps or around nicer neighborhoods on trash day. My neighbor across the ally threw away a perfectly good Athlon 2800+ Compaq PC a couple of years ago. I snatched that and it worked great for one of my servers. Never be too proud to dumpster dive...people toss all kinds of good computer stuff because they are brainwashed into thinking its too slow because its not a dual core or because its only 1ghz.

Posted: **Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:45 pm**

Amen brother stroths.

Posted: **Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:15 am**

stroths wrote:
mhilife wrote:Hey Clients,

Ok well after reading the reviews for weeks here today my T5710 is up and running. Picked it up Ebay for 60.00 came with keyboard and mouse to boot. Actually it looks new and was in the original shipping box. I did have to upgrade the flash drive and memory from 256/256 to a 1gb Apacer [DOM] 44pin module picked that up on Ebay not to cheap but made it easy to interchange from the original. That ran me another $54.00 but worth it. And lastly I added a 512mb stick memory module no charge got that from a old laptop upgrade. Flashed the firmware and OS Xpe. Now working on custom Xpe for the MJ module. Nice and quiet and low power as many have expressed running a PC 24/7 which I had been doing also.

MH
Glad you got it running. I wish you would have read my posting though because you can get the 1GB Transcend DOM for about $20 cheaper shipped. You should have fun with your new toy

Agree on the cheaper I had seen the links you posted nice job btw. Should I decide on making a couple more clients for family and friends I'll purchase lower cost hardware. Still happy to have it running. Last night I added java 6 and flash player took out some of the unwanted programs. MJ plugin is tonight for the big event.

Posted: **Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:29 pm**

HolmanGT wrote:stroths.

It is not just the 5700 that is causes problems with the 10s and 20s don't like yesterdays upgrade or the version they posted today either.

Boy - I would think there are a whole lot of people out their that are very upset right about now.

PS - the old upgrade that Stewart posted is 2903 the one that has been on their WEB site for months is 2910 and you can get it here:

http://dc19.4shared.com/download/512436 ... e_2910.exe

This is my Sharing folder so the file comes from me and is clean.

Hi HolmanGT,

I downloaded and thought that I installed the 2910 upgrade on my t5700 a while back and thought that all was good. Today while poking around, I noticed that the magicjack.exe and other files were an earlier version 1.73.415.3. I figured that I had simply forgotten to commit, so I tried upgrading again, no luck, same thing. The MJ icon turns green, says lucky you etc. but none of the files that I would expect to change dates do.

Am I creatively misunderstanding something obvious?

Thanks

Posted: **Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:52 pm**

lymon wrote:
HolmanGT wrote:stroths.

It is not just the 5700 that is causes problems with the 10s and 20s don't like yesterdays upgrade or the version they posted today either.

Boy - I would think there are a whole lot of people out their that are very upset right about now.

PS - the old upgrade that Stewart posted is 2903 the one that has been on their WEB site for months is 2910 and you can get it here:

http://dc19.4shared.com/download/512436 ... e_2910.exe

This is my Sharing folder so the file comes from me and is clean.
Hi HolmanGT,

I downloaded and thought that I installed the 2910 upgrade on my t5700 a while back and thought that all was good. Today while poking around, I noticed that the magicjack.exe and other files were an earlier version 1.73.415.3. I figured that I had simply forgotten to commit, so I tried upgrading again, no luck, same thing. The MJ icon turns green, says lucky you etc. but none of the files that I would expect to change dates do.

Am I creatively misunderstanding something obvious?

Thanks

lymon,

First this is a classic "Am I creatively misunderstanding something obvious?" and I am going to add it to my collection.

As long as you are working you are OK. the number you are seeing is OK it is a play on the major Version number which is 1.73.4153.2910. You should be able to look at some of the other files and find the full 2910 number. But you will even find some files that will say something like 1.00.14 so I would not get to concerned the major files are what they should be. Also they probably don't over-write files with the same version number as the update package (honestly don't know that to be a fact but that is the way I would do it).

PS - Now I have not put a big effort into this but I have yet to figure out their folder and file structure and what they keep where. There seems to be a ton of redundant stuff and some old stuff that they keep even after an update. The other thing I noticed that I found peculiar is that when you down grade from their newest update back to 2910 it will leave the same screen they used for the softphone in the current update but everything works so I have chosen to ignore that also. Just too damn hard to figure out what rings their bell.

Posted: **Sat Jun 21, 2008 4:29 pm**

As far as I can tell, the upgrade.exe version that works is 1.73.4153.2910 and is the one that I think is now on the MJ web site for download. Inside of that upgrade.exe is magicjack.exe, version 1.73.415.3. These are the files that work for me on my thin client.

Posted: **Sat Jun 21, 2008 7:58 pm**

maine-iac wrote:As far as I can tell, the upgrade.exe version that works is 1.73.4153.2910 and is the one that I think is now on the MJ web site for download. Inside of that upgrade.exe is magicjack.exe, version 1.73.415.3. These are the files that work for me on my thin client.

The MagicJack version that works for you is "1.73.4153.2910" and that is the version prior to the current version which is "1.80.4411.3084". Any of these other numbers are for subcomponents of the latest version i.e. "1.73.415.3" is just a version number on some of the files that are part of "1.73.4153.2910". It just depends on whether you are talking about the update package or a subcomponent of the package.

All these subcomponents numbers should not really be of any concern. If you install 1.73.4153.2910 you get everything that is part of that update version. If you install 1.80.4411.3084 (which is what you will get if you down load it today) you will get everything that goes with that update. Update version 1.80.4411.3084 is the version that will not work on a Thin Client.

For me, there has not been a suggested FIX that fixes anything with version 1.80.4411.3084. That version is starting to really piss me off. Why MJ can be a little more upfront and helpful is just beyond me. All they would have to do is tell us what they think is might not like about XPe and or Thin Client hardware. This is not really asking very much considering all the information they can (and damn well guarantee you they do) glean from the members of this forum.

I think it is about time that MagicJack realizes the benefits of Geek groups to the marketing of a product. Case in point "TeamViewer" a very expensive and IMHO outstanding remote client. Those folks give it to Geeks to use for non-commercial use for free. Why you might ask, because someone in their group has figured out that when you turn Geeks on to a product they will do more for your sales than a hundred satisfied customers. Who ever hears from satisfied customers, no one. They are the silent ones, get a Geek turned on to your product or better yet a whole forum full of Geeks and they will tell the world. Have you ever tried to get a Geek to shut-up about something he thinks is cool - NEVER HAPPEN.

OK - Elvis has left the building, actually HolmanGT has stepped off his soap box.

Posted: **Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:45 am**

I read somewhere about installing Direct X on your thin client so I did.... I have an T5710 512/512 the last update screwed up the magic jack for me also... so I tried this and it actually worked... Make sure after you run the installer to go to the install folder under Alturis/../../ and run the directX install and then commit and reboot... upon reboot I ran the majic jack upgrade again and it is working better than ever again. Here is the link DirectX
I dont know if this works on a 5700 but I do believe it works for both 5710 and 5720....

Posted: **Thu Aug 14, 2008 4:40 pm**

I have a T5710 800 Mhz version equipped with 512 flash and 512 memory, newly installed XPe and have removed all that was suggested by ??in the PDF file posted some time back, but am still somewhat confused about additional steps needed to use the magicjack.
I want to use the POTS connection, no use for the softphone, want to have the 5710 tucked away somewhere with no monitor, and am concerned regarding the no audio device issue and does the MJ need to be downgraded.
There seems to be several threads on the forum, with lots of extra information thrown about .

Anyone have a step by step procedure, taking up where the PDF mentioned leaves off?

Thanks

Posted: **Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:36 pm**

bigjohn wrote:I have a T5710 800 Mhz version equipped with 512 flash and 512 memory, newly installed XPe and have removed all that was suggested by ??in the PDF file posted some time back, but am still somewhat confused about additional steps needed to use the magicjack.
I want to use the POTS connection, no use for the softphone, want to have the 5710 tucked away somewhere with no monitor, and am concerned regarding the no audio device issue and does the MJ need to be downgraded.
There seems to be several threads on the forum, with lots of extra information thrown about .

Anyone have a step by step procedure, taking up where the PDF mentioned leaves off?

Thanks

bigjohn,

First are you sure you have an 800 MHz T5710 I have never heard of that most are 1.2 GHz.

Anyway I don't know of a one stop shopping document. I have been telling myself it is necessary but can't muster up the motivation.

I am not sure what you mean by this "concerned regarding the no audio device issue and does the MJ need to be downgraded"?

If the now audio device found pop up is what you are referring to you will have to install DirectX available on the HP T5710 download site.

As far as the "does the MJ need to be down graded" unless you mean other than I have read into your statement the answer is NO.

PS - I just noticed that northwst beat me to the punch. He is correct and Yes it works on a T5700 also (with a little extra work, but not much).

Posted: **Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:59 pm**

I just bought a T5700, and I was wondering how robust its firewall is. Is it good enough to have it sitting on the net with a public IP? Would there be any conceivable advantages of it not going through a NAT box? I was thinking there might be.

Posted: **Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:20 am**

booyah5 wrote:I just bought a T5700, and I was wondering how robust its firewall is. Is it good enough to have it sitting on the net with a public IP? Would there be any conceivable advantages of it not going through a NAT box? I was thinking there might be.

There is the obvious advantage that it will not have to share bandwidth, however I know of no ISP that is going to give you a second connection for free. You pay for each and ever IP addresses assigned to you whether it is dynamic or fixed.

Just put it thru your router and save a lot of money. If you buy a second connection you will defeat the cost saving of MagicJack.

As far as the firewall if you put it on it's own IP directly to the net (I can't imagine why you would want to do that) yes the Sygate firewall would be adequate. (you just got me to make a statement that will draw all kinds of flack). you can also install M$ firewall or any of the other modest small firewall available. Remember that as long as you have EWF running and you are direct connected to the network and it get infect (chances are slim because you are not browsing, download or accepting email. Just reboot and normal malware will be gone.

Posted: **Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:00 am**

My ISP gives me 5 IPs whether I use them or not. However, all the 5 IP's share the 6000/768Kbps connection. There is a draw back (other than security) to having the client on it's own public IP and that is I wouldn't get the benifits of QoS. But I have a decent pipe, I'm not sure it matters that much.

I could also install a new NIC on my smoothwall and place the client in an Orange interface, or maybe just a DMZ.

It's good to know that changes that would happen in case of infection would be gone with a reboot!

Posted: **Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:15 am**

booyah5 wrote:My ISP gives me 5 IPs whether I use them or not. However, all the 5 IP's share the 6000/768Kbps connection. There is a draw back (other than security) to having the client on it's own public IP and that is I wouldn't get the benifits of QoS. But I have a decent pipe, I'm not sure it matters that much.

I could also install a new NIC on my smoothwall and place the client in an Orange interface, or maybe just a DMZ.

It's good to know that changes that would happen in case of infection would be gone with a reboot!

Also remember that if it really gets hit with something ugly, you can have a clean Image tucked away reload the image and be whisper clean it about 15 minutes.

Posted: **Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:08 am**

HolmanGT wrote:
bigjohn wrote:I have a T5710 800 Mhz version equipped with 512 flash and 512 memory, newly installed XPe and have removed all that was suggested by ??in the PDF file posted some time back, but am still somewhat confused about additional steps needed to use the magicjack.
I want to use the POTS connection, no use for the softphone, want to have the 5710 tucked away somewhere with no monitor, and am concerned regarding the no audio device issue and does the MJ need to be downgraded.
There seems to be several threads on the forum, with lots of extra information thrown about .

Anyone have a step by step procedure, taking up where the PDF mentioned leaves off?

Thanks
bigjohn,

First are you sure you have an 800 MHz T5710 I have never heard of that most are 1.2 GHz.

The paper label clearly reads " t5710 XPe 800 Mhz - It was born with 256/256 which I have upgraded to 512/512
The Bios system information also thinks it is 800 Mhz

Anyway I don't know of a one stop shopping document. I have been telling myself it is necessary but can't muster up the motivation.

After wading through the 30 some pages on the forum with all the side conversations and dead ends, I have the motivation but no where near the knowledge necessary!

I am not sure what you mean by this "concerned regarding the no audio device issue

I have seen several posts mentioning that once MajicJack is installed, there is an error regarding no audio device found.
I have installed DirectX to eliminate that. Correct??

"and does the MJ need to be downgraded"?

Also many posts regarding downgrading the MJ firmware and preventing it from calling home to get an upgrade

If the now audio device found pop up is what you are referring to you will have to install DirectX available on the HP T5710 download site.

As far as the "does the MJ need to be down graded" unless you mean other than I have read into your statement the answer is NO.

PS - I just noticed that northwst beat me to the punch. He is correct and Yes it works on a T5700 also (with a little extra work, but not much).

My unit is marked 5710, the Bios says it has a T5700 processor at 800 Mhz
I have installed the flash image for the 5710 and all seems to work, but I am unsure of the differences between the 5700 and 5710.

I guess the next step is to install the MagicJack and see what happens.
Right now it is working well on a full blown XP Pro machine.

Posted: **Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:02 am**

bigjohn,

Run the HP system information from withing windows and it will tell you exactly what CPU and speed.

Then just install DirectX and 800 Mhz or not it will run MJ. But it sure seem like someone ripped you off. if the outside label says 1 GHz that is what if should be unless someone swapped it with a lower speed CPU.

If the price you paid was too good to be true ... well you have heard that one before.

Posted: **Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:30 am**

HolmanGT wrote:bigjohn,

Run the HP system information from withing windows and it will tell you exactly what CPU and speed.

Then just install DirectX and 800 Mhz or not it will run MJ. But it sure seem like someone ripped you off. if the outside label says 1 GHz that is what if should be unless someone swapped it with a lower speed CPU.

Not true
The outside label and the Bios agree at 800 Mhz and t5710 is on the outside label

With this assurance I will proceed and see if MJ works as expected.
Thanks for the guidance.

If the price you paid was too good to be true ... well you have heard that one before.

I shop for these thin clients on eBay and could easily be considered a "bottom feeder" so any one I buy could be considered " too good to be true"
I normally use these as a host for AstLinux and an interface to the Collectors Network and they work well in that application.

Posted: **Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:41 pm**

Just wondering since I started using MJ version 3117 everything works great. Except after a few hours it seems to lose connection through the usb port. And yes usb power save is turned off. I tried a usb powered hub and seems to have fixed my problem , but I would prefer not to use a powered hub. Any ideas or anyone else ever had this problem before ?

Thin Client 5710 512/256
Brand new

Posted: **Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:47 pm**

Thunder wrote:Just wondering since I started using MJ version 3117 everything works great. Except after a few hours it seems to lose connection through the usb port. And yes usb power save is turned off. I tried a usb powered hub and seems to have fixed my problem , but I would prefer not to use a powered hub. Any ideas or anyone else ever had this problem before ?

Thin Client 5710 512/256
Brand new

Thunder,

I had the same problem with that version and disconnects. My solution, back to version 3084.

Posted: **Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:27 pm**

"Mr. and Ms. America and all the ships at sea" (Walter Winchell)

Thunder there is a new official update on the MJ site. Version: 1.80.4471.3124

Posted: **Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:10 pm**

mohoelx wrote:This thread has clearly settled on a bias for HP T57xx TC's. Is this because they are the only ones that work or is it because it is the platform most plentiful that was first figured out?

I ask being very cheap.... I see some other TC's on ebay that come cheaper, so just wondering....

Well I guess I'm a bit late to this thread, but...

Yes the MJ will run just fine on a lessor and much cheaper thin client. I have mine running 24/7 on a Wyse WT9235LE machine. This is a WinXPe based machine with a 300MHz Geode processor. My particular unit has 256MB flash and 384MB (256MB + 128MB) RAM. No hardware mods other than the upgraded RAM. I'm running the unit headless with just the MJ and a corded phone. These machines are a lot cheaper than the 57xx units, (I bought several on eBay for $10-15 each) at least for now...

MagicMo

Posted: **Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:24 pm**

A lot of thin client's are CE based which I don't think would work.

Posted: **Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:19 pm**

I am new to the forum and this is a pretty long thread
good job everybody I may consider getting a tc too

Posted: **Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:09 am**

Ok i never heard of thin client myself till i came here, i recently ordered a MJ (should be here next week) what i would like to know is will i really need a TC with MJ?

Posted: **Mon Sep 01, 2008 10:43 am**

louie37 wrote:Ok i never heard of thin client myself till i came here, i recently ordered a MJ (should be here next week) what i would like to know is will i really need a TC with MJ?

You don't need a thin client specifically, but you do need a computer to use the MagicJack. Thin clients offer an inexpensive, low-power alternative to leaving a a desktop or laptop on all the time.

Posted: **Tue Sep 23, 2008 12:34 pm**

louie37 wrote:Ok i never heard of thin client myself till i came here, i recently ordered a MJ (should be here next week) what i would like to know is will i really need a TC with MJ?

Looks like the best way to go. Going to search for one of those and sell my other hardware to pay for it. Great 4um thnkx

Posted: **Tue Sep 23, 2008 1:38 pm**

tatamata wrote:
louie37 wrote:Ok i never heard of thin client myself till i came here, i recently ordered a MJ (should be here next week) what i would like to know is will i really need a TC with MJ?

Looks like the best way to go. Going to search for one of those and sell my other hardware to pay for it. Great 4um thnkx

I have a chart on my website that compares the various t5000-series HP thin clients:

http://www.thinclientforum.com/t5700%20 ... 0chart.htm

The Thin Client Forum isn't "officially" open, but it's on-line and you might find the spec comparison useful.

Posted: **Tue Sep 23, 2008 4:35 pm**

I recently acquired a HP 5700 Thin Client for use with my Magic Jack connection. I upgraded the Flash Drive to 1 Gig and upgraded the RAM to 512 Meg.

I then re-imaged the Flash drive with the most recent image from the HP website.

I set the Client to log in automatically as Administrator, then disabled EWF, turned off the Sygate Firewall and turned of the Microsoft Messenger.

The HP website does not show a version of DirectX for the HP 5700 client but there was one for the HP5710. I downloaded and installed the HP 5710 version 9.0c to my client. DirectX appeared to install smoothly and I detected no errors. When I look in the "HP Properties" screen I can see Direct X listed in the "Installed Software" and when I type "dxdiag" the Direct X Diagnostic Screen appears.
So far so good.

I then inserted the Magic Jack directly into one of the USB ports on the client and it began to "setup" (the most recent version). During the setup the Windows "Found New Hardware" screen appeared. On clicking through the screens it was trying to load drivers for "USB Internet Phone by TigerJet". Unfortunately such drivers could not be found. Magic Jack continued its setup. On completion I could make and receive calls via the Magic Jack screen keypad and the HP Client's internal speaker but the option to move to "Telephone" was not available.

On examining a desktop machine I've successfully used to connect to Magic Jack I noticed there is a USB Driver for Internet Phone by TigerJet installed each time Magic Jack is inserted into the machine. When Magic Jack is removed the USB Driver for Internet Phone by TigerJet disappears.

I believe if I could get the HP5700 to load the USB Driver for Internet Phone by TigerJet on startup my problems would be solved.

I've read in other forums of the need for USBAUDIO.sys to be installed for Magic Jack to work. USBAUDIO.sys is one of the files related to the "USB Driver for Internet Phone by TigerJet".

Would anyone know where I could get a copy of the "USB Driver for Internet Phone by TigerJet" for installation or possibly another solution to get Magic Jack up and running.

Posted: **Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:29 pm**

Hi, I'm also using a T5700 configured the same as yours. The availability of the drivers is discussed elsewhere in this thread. But, you may want to consider flashing your T5700 with Stroths (a forum user) thin client image. It loads all the appropriate software, including desktop shortcuts and other goodies. As I recall it does not include DirectX, which can be easily added (but I've heard that DirectX is no longer required by MJ, dunno)

http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/hp-t ... t1493.html

It's a few posts down and has links to downloads of RAR file which will create the image. Skip version 1.0 and use either 1.1 or 1.2.

Posted: **Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:23 am**

booyah5 wrote:A lot of thin client's are CE based which I don't think would work.

actually I got a T5500 CE machine to work with MJ , I got Escrewed from ebay seller that sent me a T5500/CE instead of the T5700 XPe unit I won and got booted off ebay and me stuck with the unit decided to mess around with it my unit is the T5500 733MHZ 32/128 Product # DC641A#ABA I bought a 4 gig CF card and the adapter , couldn't fine the mini IDE cable so I ended up solidering the wires

I installed tiny windows xp rev 9 used the ATI rage xt light video driver and it's rocking the MJ with only 128 meg of ram and 3 gigs free on the flash drive

Posted: **Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:00 pm**

I would like to make my TC as lean as possible. After tinkering with my HP T5700 for a couple of hours, I finally got MJ working. My T5700 has 512mb flash, 256mb RAM. I've done the following:

Installed XPe image from scratch.
Configured to auto-login as administrator.
Disabled EWF

Disabled the following services:
====================
Altiris Client Service
Print Spooler
Remote Registry
SNMP Service
TCP/IP NetBIOS Helper
Themes
Wireless Zero Configuration

Remove:
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Sysgate Agent
TeemNT
Media Player
Citrix ICA
.NET Messenger

Installed:
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MJ software
USB drivers (w/o this, I could not use a regular phone w/ my MJ)
UltraVNC

I editted the hosts file to include "0.0.0.0 upgrade.talk4free.com" to disable future upgrades. Then I locked the device by enabling EWF and committing all the changes.

These are the only services left that are running:

Are there any other services/agents I can remove to even make my TC even leaner? Is it better/leaner to use TeamViewer than VNC? Also, why are people installing DirectX and Java? I didn't install those and my MJ works fine w/o them.

I'm having a difficult time configuring MJ to run as a service though. The instructions I saw here are for full blown XP, not sure if it can be applied for XPe.

Posted: **Wed Oct 01, 2008 12:29 am**

side4 wrote:
booyah5 wrote:A lot of thin client's are CE based which I don't think would work.
actually I got a T5500 CE machine to work with MJ , I got Escrewed from ebay seller that sent me a T5500/CE instead of the T5700 XPe unit I won and got booted off ebay and me stuck with the unit decided to mess around with it my unit is the T5500 733MHZ 32/128 Product # DC641A#ABA I bought a 4 gig CF card and the adapter , couldn't fine the mini IDE cable so I ended up solidering the wires I installed tiny windows xp rev 9 used the ATI rage xt light video driver and it's rocking the MJ with only 128 meg of ram and 3 gigs free on the flash drive

Huh, thanks for the input, I had no idea that could be done. I am not real handy with a soldering iron, but may try it if can find a CE client for cheap.

Posted: **Tue Oct 07, 2008 9:02 pm**

Im using an HP thin client with my magicjack. I deleted Internet Explorer (exe). Now I want it back. Can somebody email it to me, or post it somewhere? Please?

Posted: **Wed Oct 08, 2008 12:59 am**

MagicJohnson wrote:Im using an HP thin client with my magicjack. I deleted Internet Explorer (exe). Now I want it back. Can somebody email it to me, or post it somewhere? Please?

Following these instructions you can download all of IE6 onto your hard drive,
to install from scratch, without always installing it from the MS site.
Do you really want to trust someone sending you a 'clean' IE6 .EXE file?
(you can change the directory you create, as long as you also change it in the RUN command line. )

1) Create a folder on your "C" drive and name it "C:\ie6" (without the quotes)
2) Choose the language and download the installer (from MS site) to this folder.
3) Open the run command and put this line in EXACTLY like this:
"C:\ie6\ie6setup.exe" /c:"ie6wzd.exe /d /s:""#E"
(copy and paste this, and this time, make sure you will include the double-quotes)

A special menu will appear and give you a choice of which OS version you like to install !
Select some or all of them, download them to your HDD... you can install from that directory once the download is complete.

after you've installed it, then you can do a windows update to get the fixes

http://www.update.microsoft.com/windows ... x?ln=en-us
==================

if you need the link to the installer for IE6, it may still be here...

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/info ... 6setup.exe

If not you can always search the microsoft site.

Posted: **Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:42 pm**

This did not work. However I copied the exe from my other computer and now it works just fine.

Posted: **Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:44 pm**

What if you want to reinstall the OS? Do you copy the CD to USB flash memory and make it bootable?

Posted: **Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:36 am**

What I do is get my Thin Client set up exactly how I want it. Then I use the HP ThinState Capture located in the control panel and insert my usb thumb drive and run that. That way if I have to reinstall OS it will bring it back to perfection in a matter of minutes.

Posted: **Mon Oct 20, 2008 12:44 am**

Thunder wrote:What I do is get my Thin Client set up exactly how I want it. Then I use the HP ThinState Capture located in the control panel and insert my usb thumb drive and run that. That way if I have to reinstall OS it will bring it back to perfection in a matter of minutes.

Thunder, not quite that simple. The utility just build the bootable Thumb Drive. Then you have to boot off of it and it will create the image on the T.D. Not a lot extra just don't think the first time thru you have the image, that takes step two.

Posted: **Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:25 am**

So you are saying that the ThinState capture doesn't get the image the first time you use it. Or did you mean you have to boot from thumb drive for it to create the new image on the TC.

Posted: **Mon Oct 20, 2008 1:36 am**

Thunder wrote:So you are saying that the ThinState capture doesn't get the image the first time you use it. Or did you mean you have to boot from thumb drive for it to create the new image on the TC.

The thinstate just builds a bootable drive. Then you have to boot from it to make the image.

There is a bat file that is created by thinstate that says if IMG exist flash the machine if it doesn't get the image from the machine.

Thin I said that correctly but who know at this time of night.

Posted: **Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:28 am**

This is what I get when I use the ThinState Capture for the first time. FLASH.IBR 500,473 KB, IBR.EXE 61.8 KB, KERNEL.SYS 41 KB. I just did this on a new Thumb Drive a few minutes ago before this post. During the process it even says coping image 10,20,30 % etc. Recycle the TC. Then resealing process.

Posted: **Mon Oct 20, 2008 2:40 am**

Thunder wrote:This is what I get when I use the ThinState Capture for the first time. FLASH.IBR 500,473 KB, IBR.EXE 61.8 KB, KERNEL.SYS 41 KB. I just did this on a new Thumb Drive a few minutes ago.

Now boot off of it and you will find that it will create the IMG file. By the way if you have 512 use a 1GB thumb drive and if you have 1GB use a 2GB thumb drive or it will not all fit.

Posted: **Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:06 am**

Definietly something I am going to do when I get home. Thanks for the tip guys!

John

Posted: **Mon Oct 20, 2008 4:53 pm**

Hmmmm...I can't get this to do anything. Are you guys using stroths image?

I double-click the ThinState app in the Control Panel and nothing happens. I tried putting my TD in to see if that would invoke some kind of response...nothing. However, the TD is acquiring a drive letter (F:).

Am I doing something wrong?

John

Posted: **Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:05 pm**

I don't use Stroths image. Are you logged in under Admin. That's the only thing I can think of why it won't run.

Posted: **Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:06 pm**

Also for anyone who needs it...T5710 Manual:

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c00736464.pdf

John

Posted: **Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:19 pm**

John,

I don't follow your reply, what does the manual have to do with your problem and Thunders reply.

Are you logged in as Administrator?

The program should launch without a Thumb Drive plugged in. And as far a Stroths' image you would not use that with the ThinState utility anyway. You don't use it unless you want to create a bootable T.D. that can be used to build an image. Once you have the image you do not need to use the "ThinState" application again except to build another bootable T.D.

To use Stroths image merely copy it to a ThinState created flash drive then boot from it if you want your system to have Stoths' idea of perfection.

PS - your hardware configuration must be the same as the one the image was pulled from, if you pull it from a 512 unit and put it on a 1GB unit half your solid state hard drive will disappear. Ouch! OK - only until you rebuild it correctly.

Posted: **Mon Oct 20, 2008 7:49 pm**

Actuallty, I must has posted the manual atthe same time as Thunder did. I just happened across it and figured someone could use it.

Yes...logged in with the local admin account.

Ohh...I thought I could use this to make a backup of my current image (stroths plus any mods I made...i.e. RemotelyAnywhere) that I could restore if anything bad happened.

John

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