magicJack and magicJack Plus Support, Reviews, FAQs and Tricks

sabresfan wrote:Here's the technical description of QoS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_of_service but basically it gives priority to devices like the DUO over other things on your LAN. The HBB1 is QoS in a box and it does all of this automatically. Other options to setup QoS are router firmwares like Tomato or DD-WRT. This involves flashing your router with one of these firmwares (if your router is not supported do not flash your router if it's not supported you will have a brick on your hands) and setting up QoS in the router. QoS makes a great difference if setup properly. Some routers sold now have easy QoS where the router analyzes the type of connections and automatically give priority like the HBB1. What makes the HBB1 great is it's cheap price and it's completely plug and play like the DUO.

Nugrl wrote:

sabresfan wrote:Here's the technical description of QoS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_of_service but basically it gives priority to devices like the DUO over other things on your LAN. The HBB1 is QoS in a box and it does all of this automatically. Other options to setup QoS are router firmwares like Tomato or DD-WRT. This involves flashing your router with one of these firmwares (if your router is not supported do not flash your router if it's not supported you will have a brick on your hands) and setting up QoS in the router. QoS makes a great difference if setup properly. Some routers sold now have easy QoS where the router analyzes the type of connections and automatically give priority like the HBB1. What makes the HBB1 great is it's cheap price and it's completely plug and play like the DUO.

OMG what the hell was that? I read thru some of that article, and holy crap, I am seeing double now. I need it explained in simple terms. I mean I can well at least try to following along, but man oh man. I think gash had me go into my router settings before and do something with the Qos, but I am not sure what I did at this point, seeing as how that was soooo many fixes ago.

gashliquor wrote:

Nugrl wrote:

sabresfan wrote:Here's the technical description of QoS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_of_service but basically it gives priority to devices like the DUO over other things on your LAN. The HBB1 is QoS in a box and it does all of this automatically. Other options to setup QoS are router firmwares like Tomato or DD-WRT. This involves flashing your router with one of these firmwares (if your router is not supported do not flash your router if it's not supported you will have a brick on your hands) and setting up QoS in the router. QoS makes a great difference if setup properly. Some routers sold now have easy QoS where the router analyzes the type of connections and automatically give priority like the HBB1. What makes the HBB1 great is it's cheap price and it's completely plug and play like the DUO.

OMG what the hell was that? I read thru some of that article, and holy crap, I am seeing double now. I need it explained in simple terms. I mean I can well at least try to following along, but man oh man. I think gash had me go into my router settings before and do something with the Qos, but I am not sure what I did at this point, seeing as how that was soooo many fixes ago.

Simple Terms: , Disable your QOS in your router. From your modem use a cat 5e or 6 to the internet port of the HBB1. Then use another CAT from the router port of the HBB1 to the Internet/WAN port of your router. Run another CAT from your NetTalk Duo to a LAN of your router and forget anything else. Talk away.

gashliquor wrote:

Nugrl wrote:

sabresfan wrote:Here's the technical description of QoS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_of_service but basically it gives priority to devices like the DUO over other things on your LAN. The HBB1 is QoS in a box and it does all of this automatically. Other options to setup QoS are router firmwares like Tomato or DD-WRT. This involves flashing your router with one of these firmwares (if your router is not supported do not flash your router if it's not supported you will have a brick on your hands) and setting up QoS in the router. QoS makes a great difference if setup properly. Some routers sold now have easy QoS where the router analyzes the type of connections and automatically give priority like the HBB1. What makes the HBB1 great is it's cheap price and it's completely plug and play like the DUO.

OMG what the hell was that? I read thru some of that article, and holy crap, I am seeing double now. I need it explained in simple terms. I mean I can well at least try to following along, but man oh man. I think gash had me go into my router settings before and do something with the Qos, but I am not sure what I did at this point, seeing as how that was soooo many fixes ago.

Simple Terms: , Disable your QOS in your router. From your modem use a cat 5e or 6 to the internet port of the HBB1. Then use another CAT from the router port of the HBB1 to the Internet/WAN port of your router. Run another CAT from your NetTalk Duo to a LAN of your router and forget anything else. Talk away.

Nugrl wrote:

gashliquor wrote:

Nugrl wrote:
OMG what the hell was that? I read thru some of that article, and holy crap, I am seeing double now. I need it explained in simple terms. I mean I can well at least try to following along, but man oh man. I think gash had me go into my router settings before and do something with the Qos, but I am not sure what I did at this point, seeing as how that was soooo many fixes ago.

Simple Terms: , Disable your QOS in your router. From your modem use a cat 5e or 6 to the internet port of the HBB1. Then use another CAT from the router port of the HBB1 to the Internet/WAN port of your router. Run another CAT from your NetTalk Duo to a LAN of your router and forget anything else. Talk away.

where do I go in and disable the Qos?

gashliquor wrote:

Nugrl wrote:

gashliquor wrote:

Simple Terms: , Disable your QOS in your router. From your modem use a cat 5e or 6 to the internet port of the HBB1. Then use another CAT from the router port of the HBB1 to the Internet/WAN port of your router. Run another CAT from your NetTalk Duo to a LAN of your router and forget anything else. Talk away.

where do I go in and disable the Qos?

LOL, In your routers setup 192.168.1.1 using I.E. usually

Nugrl wrote:

gashliquor wrote:

Nugrl wrote: where do I go in and disable the Qos?

LOL, In your routers setup 192.168.1.1 using I.E. usually

hey now, I know that, I am in the router settings, but where in there do I go?

sabresfan wrote:Is this your router http://www.google.com/products/catalog? ... CCcQ8wIwAA# then I don't think it has QoS.

Nugrl wrote:

sabresfan wrote:Is this your router http://www.google.com/products/catalog? ... CCcQ8wIwAA# then I don't think it has QoS.

yep, thats it. so what are you saying, there are not adjustments to make in there?

gashliquor wrote:

Nugrl wrote:

sabresfan wrote:Is this your router http://www.google.com/products/catalog? ... CCcQ8wIwAA# then I don't think it has QoS.

yep, thats it. so what are you saying, there are not adjustments to make in there?

In that case its better off, A HBB1 will be a big plus for U without knowing nada, All automatic

sabresfan wrote:This is what I just found for the type of QoS your describing http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa916767.aspx it sounds like you have wifi QoS. Being the Duo is hardwired into your router I doubt that it would hurt to turn it off.

sabresfan wrote:This is what I just found for the type of QoS your describing http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa916767.aspx it sounds like you have wifi QoS. Being the Duo is hardwired into your router I doubt that it would hurt to turn it off.

Nugrl wrote:

sabresfan wrote:This is what I just found for the type of QoS your describing http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa916767.aspx it sounds like you have wifi QoS. Being the Duo is hardwired into your router I doubt that it would hurt to turn it off.

but I do have a couple of laptops tops here and a desktop in another room that connect wirelessly, so will that do anything to them if I disable that?

sabresfan wrote:

Nugrl wrote:

sabresfan wrote:This is what I just found for the type of QoS your describing http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa916767.aspx it sounds like you have wifi QoS. Being the Duo is hardwired into your router I doubt that it would hurt to turn it off.

but I do have a couple of laptops tops here and a desktop in another room that connect wirelessly, so will that do anything to them if I disable that?

Right now I wouldn't mess with any of your routers settings. If you get a HBB1 then you could try and turn off this QoS and see if everything works. The only potential problem maybe if you run both the HBB1 and this QoS that I can think of is they may compete against each other causing a slowdown for your internet connection.

sabresfan wrote:It sounds like this router does have QoS then. I would look at the settings under this and try and see how to setup everything. It may do everything automatically so just take your time and look at the settings to be sure. Fun stuff ain't it.

Nugrl wrote:

sabresfan wrote:It sounds like this router does have QoS then. I would look at the settings under this and try and see how to setup everything. It may do everything automatically so just take your time and look at the settings to be sure. Fun stuff ain't it.

ya think so??? just kidding, I do like a good challenge every now and then........ because its all for the personal satisfaction you get when it all works the way it should!!

this WMM QoS is under Wireless> Channel and SSID if that means anything so I am not really sure what other settings to check to make any adjustments?

pbjandfritos wrote:Hello,

I am considering getting the NetTalk Duo. One thing that I heard is that is "Router picky". I have a Netgear WGR614v4 router and it works well with the MJ. Will it work with the duo? It is an older router. My family bought it in the summer of 2004.

Ernie

pbjandfritos wrote:Hello,

I am considering getting the NetTalk Duo. One thing that I heard is that is "Router picky". I have a Netgear WGR614v4 router and it works well with the MJ. Will it work with the duo? It is an older router. My family bought it in the summer of 2004.

Ernie

Nugrl wrote:

pbjandfritos wrote:Hello,

I am considering getting the NetTalk Duo. One thing that I heard is that is "Router picky". I have a Netgear WGR614v4 router and it works well with the MJ. Will it work with the duo? It is an older router. My family bought it in the summer of 2004.

Ernie

OMG don't even tell me I have to worry about that now ! what router I use I use the Belkin N+ Wireless Router F5D8235-4 is there going to be a problem with it working with the NetTalk Duo? God I hope not!

gashliquor wrote:

Nugrl wrote:

pbjandfritos wrote:Hello,

I am considering getting the NetTalk Duo. One thing that I heard is that is "Router picky". I have a Netgear WGR614v4 router and it works well with the MJ. Will it work with the duo? It is an older router. My family bought it in the summer of 2004.

Ernie

OMG don't even tell me I have to worry about that now ! what router I use I use the Belkin N+ Wireless Router F5D8235-4 is there going to be a problem with it working with the NetTalk Duo? God I hope not!

I have'nt heard anything about NetTalk not liking certain routers at all. It maybe true but i have'nt heard anything. I think it may not like AIO ( All in one combo modem/routers maybe. But thats why i use name brand hardware so things like this don't happen. The NetTalk Duo only needs to be plugged into any empty LAN port anyway. Visit the NetTalk forums if it is true you'll see people over there!

Nugrl wrote:

gashliquor wrote:

Nugrl wrote: OMG don't even tell me I have to worry about that now ! what router I use I use the Belkin N+ Wireless Router F5D8235-4 is there going to be a problem with it working with the NetTalk Duo? God I hope not!

I have'nt heard anything about NetTalk not liking certain routers at all. It maybe true but i have'nt heard anything. I think it may not like AIO ( All in one combo modem/routers maybe. But thats why i use name brand hardware so things like this don't happen. The NetTalk Duo only needs to be plugged into any empty LAN port anyway. Visit the NetTalk forums if it is true you'll see people over there!

well I hope it likes my router. I just had to go get my cable modem replaced today. Mine quit on me today. so I hope that does not cause me any further problems or aggravation!!!

gashliquor wrote:

Nugrl wrote:

gashliquor wrote:



I have'nt heard anything about NetTalk not liking certain routers at all. It maybe true but i have'nt heard anything. I think it may not like AIO ( All in one combo modem/routers maybe. But thats why i use name brand hardware so things like this don't happen. The NetTalk Duo only needs to be plugged into any empty LAN port anyway. Visit the NetTalk forums if it is true you'll see people over there!

well I hope it likes my router. I just had to go get my cable modem replaced today. Mine quit on me today. so I hope that does not cause me any further problems or aggravation!!!

Im glad they use Motorola Modems here, What r they using there brand wise?.

bitstopjoe wrote:No your old one was not slowing you down. the new 1 gig speed is for PC to PC transfers, if both are capable of 1 gig transfers...
No affect on the internet connection speed.....10/100 is WAY more than you need or use on the net..

oldtimercurt wrote:Sabresfan,

You mentioned a few posts back that your Panasonic phone gave you a hiss with the NT. We've made two successful calls to Germany with a Panasonic KX-TG6021M cordless (5.8 GHz) and both times there was a quite noticeable hiss in the breaks when no one was speaking. Is this what your VTech phones eliminated? My wife is accepting the VOIP but doesn't like the hiss. Hope a new phone will solve the problem.

OTC

sabresfan wrote:

oldtimercurt wrote:Sabresfan,

You mentioned a few posts back that your Panasonic phone gave you a hiss with the NT. We've made two successful calls to Germany with a Panasonic KX-TG6021M cordless (5.8 GHz) and both times there was a quite noticeable hiss in the breaks when no one was speaking. Is this what your VTech phones eliminated? My wife is accepting the VOIP but doesn't like the hiss. Hope a new phone will solve the problem.

OTC

It gave me a hissing sound with nettalk, MJ, Sipgate, Gizmo5 and Callcentric. I tried different wires, moving the base, swearing at it and nothing helped. In the end I returned it and got a Vtech for less than half of what I paid for the Panasonic and everything has worked great. I have three different Vtech's now a 2.4Ghz, 5.8Ghz and dect 6.0 with additional handsets for the 5.8 and dect 6.0 and have never experienced any hissing or breakups. The hissing sound on the Panasonic was constant but definitely more noticeable when no one was talking.

Nugrl wrote:

sabresfan wrote:

oldtimercurt wrote:Sabresfan,

You mentioned a few posts back that your Panasonic phone gave you a hiss with the NT. We've made two successful calls to Germany with a Panasonic KX-TG6021M cordless (5.8 GHz) and both times there was a quite noticeable hiss in the breaks when no one was speaking. Is this what your VTech phones eliminated? My wife is accepting the VOIP but doesn't like the hiss. Hope a new phone will solve the problem.

OTC

It gave me a hissing sound with nettalk, MJ, Sipgate, Gizmo5 and Callcentric. I tried different wires, moving the base, swearing at it and nothing helped. In the end I returned it and got a Vtech for less than half of what I paid for the Panasonic and everything has worked great. I have three different Vtech's now a 2.4Ghz, 5.8Ghz and dect 6.0 with additional handsets for the 5.8 and dect 6.0 and have never experienced any hissing or breakups. The hissing sound on the Panasonic was constant but definitely more noticeable when no one was talking.

@sabresfan I'm glad you jumped back in here. I wanted to know if you could tell us what model# of these V-tech phones you are using. I know from experience with my phones that a different model can perform completely differently, and seeing as how you are having great success with your V-tech, I would like to know what their model#'s are so when I go shopping I know what to look for.

sabresfan wrote:

Nugrl wrote:

sabresfan wrote:It gave me a hissing sound with nettalk, MJ, Sipgate, Gizmo5 and Callcentric. I tried different wires, moving the base, swearing at it and nothing helped. In the end I returned it and got a Vtech for less than half of what I paid for the Panasonic and everything has worked great. I have three different Vtech's now a 2.4Ghz, 5.8Ghz and dect 6.0 with additional handsets for the 5.8 and dect 6.0 and have never experienced any hissing or breakups. The hissing sound on the Panasonic was constant but definitely more noticeable when no one was talking.

@sabresfan I'm glad you jumped back in here. I wanted to know if you could tell us what model# of these V-tech phones you are using. I know from experience with my phones that a different model can perform completely differently, and seeing as how you are having great success with your V-tech, I would like to know what their model#'s are so when I go shopping I know what to look for.

This is the last phone I bought a couple of month's ago at Walmart http://www.walmart.com/ip/VTech-CS6319- ... e/14272907 it works great with Nettalk and has a great range. I doubt they are still selling my older 2.4 and 5.8 models any longer other than on 3rd party sites.

oldtimercurt wrote:They have on that's about $10 more, I think. Same as other plus answer machine. If you go the Walmart.com and search for vtech phones you can see all that they carry, as well as ones they have to ship.

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