Keep app from popping up.

boogmeister1 · Post by **boogmeister1** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:26 pm

I have decided to use MagicJack connected to my Vista Media Center PC. Currently it's connected to an XP machine. The problem is that I don't know how to keep the MJ softphone from popping up everytime I receive a call. I'm afraid that it will cause problems when I switch to VMC. Has anyone found a way to disable the popup of the softphone and still be able to send and receive calls?

Thanks,

Eric

kumar · Post by **kumar** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:47 pm

You could try configuring it with a softphone other then the SJlabs Magicjack one. Xlite is what works great when I don't want to use the crappy one. There's a tutorial on this forum so you can set it up. The only problem you may hit is that it may be hard for you to configure the hardware with it. It may be covered in the tutorial but i am not 100% sure. Also what I do is use a SIP adapter. If you had sunrocket then you could use your old equipment or buy it on ebay. Hope it helps.

EDIT: The XLITE way works with Magicjack equipment see this topic

Post by **MagicHack** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:48 pm

boogmeister1 wrote:I have decided to use MagicJack connected to my Vista Media Center PC. Currently it's connected to an XP machine. The problem is that I don't know how to keep the MJ softphone from popping up everytime I receive a call. I'm afraid that it will cause problems when I switch to VMC. Has anyone found a way to disable the popup of the softphone and still be able to send and receive calls?

Thanks,

Eric

I use 4T Tray Minimizer for this type of purpose...I usually disable the ability in the magicJack to minimize to the tray, and instead rely on 4T to do it for me. There is an option in 4T so that the application cannot restore itself from the tray. Thus, on incoming calls, the magicJack will remain minimized.

I remember people talking about other tools in the old forum, I just cannot remember the names...

MagicHack

kumar · Post by **kumar** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:49 pm

Haha magichack i beat ya to it

your way is easier though

Post by **MagicHack** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:51 pm

kumar wrote:Haha magichack i beat ya to it your way is easier though

Kumar,

I didn't realize it was a race... I'll try to type faster next time...

MagicHack

vern · Post by **vern** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:49 pm

I use AutoSizer to minimize MJ
http://www.southbaypc.com/AutoSizer/

garybritt · Post by **garybritt** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:30 pm

Autosizer works pretty well. That was my contribution on the old forum.

MagicHack's suggested program/method sounds like it is a better solution than autosizer.

Frank Zappa on the old forum came up with installing the magicjack device and its software under a different user profile; then converting that install to run as a service using some tools found in the win2K, XP, Win2K 2003, support tools; then when you logon using your regular logon the magicjack softphone runs totally in the background as a service and any popups it generates are supposed to be invisible in the background also. Works great if you never use the softphone for anything.

I use autosizer to put the softphone all but about 5 to 10 pixels off the screen. That way if I want to see or use the softphone I can drag it with the mouse onto the screen. Autosizer can also be used to keep the softphone minimized, in effect, but again MagicHack's recommendation seems like a better solution if you want the softphone to be permanently minimized.

Gary

kumar · Post by **kumar** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 8:47 pm

[quote="garybritt"]..... MagicHack's recommendation seems like a better.....

Gary[/quote

Hello what about kumar over here!! LOL just kidding

garybritt · Post by **garybritt** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:31 pm

Sorry Kumar, my bad.

Hope your exams went well.

Gary

kumar · Post by **kumar** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:52 pm

garybritt wrote:Sorry Kumar, my bad.

Hope your exams went well.

Gary

Exams??

garybritt · Post by **garybritt** » Sun Dec 02, 2007 9:58 pm

I think I got confused by your reference to school.

My Bad again.

Please don't tell me you didn't make any reference to school up thread ?? <grin>

boogmeister1 · Post by **boogmeister1** » Mon Dec 03, 2007 2:59 pm

Thanks for the suggestions guys. I'll give them a shot and see which works better for me.

Eric

ramuk · Post by **ramuk** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:48 pm

I am stuck configuring this app.

I dont seem to find the exe file for magicjack to add it to the path in 4ttm.

Help this noob pls

Post by **MagicHack** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:58 pm

ramuk wrote:I am stuck configuring this app.

I dont seem to find the exe file for magicjack to add it to the path in 4ttm.

Help this noob pls

Start up your magicjack. Leave the softphone on the screen.
Start up 4t, and click the add button as shown below.
now drag the icon below on top of your sofphone
Step 3 will have filled in all of the data to the form above.

ramuk · Post by **ramuk** » Thu Dec 13, 2007 10:45 am

Thank you so much for helping. I believe I need to do this everytime I start my laptop.

Another question....Is there a way I can start mj during windows startup?

digitalnomad · Post by **digitalnomad** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:13 am

Here are a few less permanent solutions that I am using, and you can play with them to customize your desktop.

I also am annoyed with the MJ desktop icons, but still ocassionally would like to access the softphone. Below are links for two simple programs I use to minimize (or hide) all my desktop icons.

Additionally you can just hide your desktop with a right click anywhere on the desktop, then under Arrange Icons by, uncheck Show Desktop Icons.

You also can invoke MagicJack from the startup tray, and then right click the MJ softphone icon in the Toolbar, go to Transparency, and change it to 100%. The softphone will no longer be visible on the desktop (bring it back at any time by changing the transparency).

Combine these tools and actions to customize for your personal preferences and use. I wrote a post with instructions and screenshots here: http://digital-nomads.blogspot.com/2008 ... ricks.html

Download Tweak UI and hide most MS icons from your desktop (recycle Bin, Doc & Pics, etc.)
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/tweakui.htm

Download DeskView to change the remaining large desktop icons into a "list view" of small icons.
http://jimcofer.com/personal/?p=208

solearth · Post by **solearth** » Wed Feb 06, 2008 9:47 pm

Isn't the easiest way to keep from seeing the "box" simply to move the top of the MJ window to the bottom of the screen.
I assume that everybody already knows how, but for the newbies:
Move the pointer to the top (but just inside) of the MJ window.
Press and hold the left mouse button. - Move the mouse down. - Release the mouse button when the box is virtually invisible.
Viola - The window is not bothering you. A little window pops up when the phone is ringing with the number of the caller. But I want to see that anyway.

woodyear99 · Post by **woodyear99** » Sat Feb 09, 2008 4:46 pm

Is there a free alternative to 4t tray minimizer? I know that there is a free version but it is annoying that I have to set it everytime I restart the pc. I just want something free that I can use to force this program to always stay minimized.....

sbw07 · Post by **sbw07** » Sun Feb 10, 2008 10:10 am

Ditto that about a free alternative, besides it doesn't seem to be Vista-compatible (sigh), I'm getting error windows popping up all over the place. Any ideas out there?

solearth wrote:Isn't the easiest way to keep from seeing the "box" simply to move the top of the MJ window to the bottom of the screen?

Actually my problem is not with seeing the softphone per se; personally I think it looks very nice. The objective here is that whatever app. I am currently using should remain the active one even when I make/receive a phone call.
Say I'm typing a Word document and the mj rings, I have to refocus on Word and retype whatever I had typed from when the call started coming through until when I realized that I wasn't in my doc anymore. Same for if I or anyone in the house decides to make a phone call.

I believe that with TweakUI there's an option to do this - to prevent other applications from stealing focus - see here for details. BUT IT DON'T WORK WITH VISTA!! (sigh)

Jacksondale · Post by **Jacksondale** » Sun Feb 24, 2008 12:03 am

I have my MJ on my desktop and use two monitors so I just drag the softphone to the second monitor. Basically I like to see what calls have come in and often use the contacts feature to make calls. (so much easier to right click and hit call than dial all those pesky numbers...

SpamBox · Post by **SpamBox** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:53 am

Here's a reverse approach: Toppy

Overview

Nice little utility which lives in the system tray that allows you to easily control which windows stay on top simply by using keyboard hot keys.
How it works

Basicly, after you have run Toppy! pressing WinKey + ArrowUp will set the active window to stay on top… and pressing WinKey + ArrowDn will set the window back to normal.

So if playing a game or working on something and you don't want any other window stealing focus (ie - MJ)

tec32211 · Post by **tec32211** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:23 pm

Hello everyone i just got my MJ 2 days ago and it works pretty well,I got a number from Grand Central and linked everything and works good.I hated the pop up so i followed the help from others here so i dragged it down to the bottom and i LOVE that LOL...I am new here and its a great site...

GuyOnTheAir · Post by **GuyOnTheAir** » Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:45 am

You also can invoke MagicJack from the startup tray, and then right click the MJ softphone icon in the Toolbar, go to Transparency, and change it to 100%. The softphone will no longer be visible on the desktop (bring it back at any time by changing the transparency).

I have no idea where to find this Transparency item. My menu, if I right click on the MJ icon has only Move, Minimize, and Close as options. How do you get the Transparency option?

thirty5tech · Post by **thirty5tech** » Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:00 pm

hey all

well there are a few programs out there to do what you looking for, But the only one that came out best and work very well for me is call TweakWindow , I install it on my Vista 64bit OS and when it restarted, Magicjack was automaticl loaded to the tray, So give it a try , and hope it all works out well .

mutedmajority · Post by **mutedmajority** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 11:41 am

On the magic jack window, You need to click menu> advanced users> and make sure a check is by the item called "minimize to tray" They won't work unless you have it checked.

xmartangel2k1 · Post by **xmartangel2k1** » Wed May 14, 2008 7:46 pm

MagicHack wrote:
ramuk wrote:I am stuck configuring this app.

I dont seem to find the exe file for magicjack to add it to the path in 4ttm.

Help this noob pls

Start up your magicjack. Leave the softphone on the screen.

Start up 4t, and click the add button as shown below.

now drag the icon below on top of your sofphone

Step 3 will have filled in all of the data to the form above.

i tried that but i would like to know what to do after that cuz it keeps poping out

never mind i did it had to configure it. forgot how i did it though,but it still minimizes my games

semicharm · Post by **semicharm** » Wed May 14, 2008 11:30 pm

You can always run it as a service.

caangel · Post by **caangel** » Thu May 29, 2008 6:43 pm

http://www.cnet.com has a popup blocker made for magicjack I went there and did a search for MJ and found it so far it is working just have to install it nothing else also give you the opion to open the software I hope this helps

AlaninKY · Post by **AlaninKY** » Thu May 29, 2008 6:55 pm

caangel wrote:http://www.cnet.com has a popup blocker made for magicjack I went there and did a search for MJ and found it so far it is working just have to install it nothing else also give you the opion to open the software I hope this helps

It took a few minutes to find the exact link for the free software "MagicBlock"
http://www.download.com/MagicBlock/3000 ... d=10843178

Also check http://www.download.com/vvisoft/3260-20_4-6308268.html

Also check http://vvisoft.com/

I have not tried the software.

jesschoen · Post by **jesschoen** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 8:24 am

Is there a Mac version of Magicblock?

James

PSK · Post by **PSK** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:22 am

I may not be as tech-minded as some of you but I think my way is so simple I'm surprised noone thought about it. I just drag the softphone screen down below the bottom toolbar and leave just a little of the top of the screen showing. This way it is available if I want it but it is always out of the way. Low tech, but effective.

quetzal · Post by **quetzal** » Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:00 pm

I'm in the final "testing stages" before killing off Vonage at my place....problem with pulling it to the bottom of the screen is that if you're working in a program, or worse yet, a full screen game, it will drop that out of focus and pull up the soft phone. Not a huge deal if the computer's just sitting there, but there's nothing worse than getting the few measly minutes you get to use your system for games to have to push that popup back down and get back into your program. I"ll be trying out a few of these fixes. Has anyone else had issues with Vista (or I guess XP as well) when using different logons? If I have the soft phone up on my session and my wife's on her's with the softphone running, the calls are really messed up. During trouble shooting, I killed her softphone task and it cleared right up. I also found that logging out of a session instead of just switching users keeps it from happening, but I'm guessing making it a sevice on the admin page would keep that from happening period...Last piece of my MJ puzzle is the Caller ID situation, just need to make my "little phone box" and get a powered USB and I think I'll be in good!

versatil · Post by **versatil** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:16 pm

Has anyone figured out how to keep it from gaining focus yet?

Has anyone tried to start magic jack as a background service? Maybe I'll try that after I finish my homework...

quetzal · Post by **quetzal** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:37 pm

Check some of the other threads..some have done it with success, some have used a program called Firedaemon...I'm using Vista and there have been some changeups to what the instructions are for making it a service manually..going to try once I get a little more than an hour to try.

MyOwnMJ · Post by **MyOwnMJ** » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:09 am

There's a freeware program that keeps the MJ app minimized...that program can be found here:

http://www.download.com/3120-20_4.html? ... h&tg=dl-20

Looks like when the program is run, the MJ app pops up for a split second, then gets closed by this freeware.

Denver Dave · Post by **Denver Dave** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 12:15 am

Does MagicBlock stop Magic Jack App from controlling our PC screen during PC startup?

JohnnyFreightTRAIN · Post by **JohnnyFreightTRAIN** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 12:32 am

No it doesn't. The magicjack will still have a splash screen with the magicblock.
And if you want to stop the magicjack from poping up because it closes your fullscreen programs (like videos) then the magicblock wont help you. Because the magicjack softphone still pops up for a split second.

The only way I know of to get rid of the splash screen and the softphone altogether is run MJ as a service, or in another user account.

sbw07 · Post by **sbw07** » Mon Aug 25, 2008 7:13 am

JohnnyFreightTRAIN wrote:The only way I know of to get rid of the splash screen and the softphone altogether is run MJ as a service, or in another user account.

There are 2 splash screens that you may be referring to; "One Minute of Patience..." & "Starting magicJack, please wait...".

The way I found to stop the first one is described here.

juansanchez · Post by **juansanchez** » Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:31 pm

semicharm wrote:You can always run it as a service.

unfortunately i was just doing this not 20 mins ago and now it seems that it doesnt exist, admins can you please bring this old topic from the old site to this thread so i can finish doing what i started? plz and thank you

~juan

NVM guess i just needed to look problem solved and i found the new one on this new forum

pcfy2 · Post by **pcfy2** » Mon Dec 29, 2008 5:43 pm

SpamBox wrote:Here's a reverse approach: Toppy
Overview

Nice little utility which lives in the system tray that allows you to easily control which windows stay on top simply by using keyboard hot keys.
How it works

Basicly, after you have run Toppy! pressing WinKey + ArrowUp will set the active window to stay on top… and pressing WinKey + ArrowDn will set the window back to normal.
So if playing a game or working on something and you don't want any other window stealing focus (ie - MJ)

This does work.

The softphone only blinks to let you know that someone is callling you or using the telephone. It blinked 3 times while typing this.

It did not stay on top. But I had to reposition the pointer where I am typing to continue.

I can live with this. Easy set up.

ekcopolo · Post by **ekcopolo** » Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:36 pm

solearth wrote:Isn't the easiest way to keep from seeing the "box" simply to move the top of the MJ window to the bottom of the screen.
I assume that everybody already knows how, but for the newbies:
Move the pointer to the top (but just inside) of the MJ window.
Press and hold the left mouse button. - Move the mouse down. - Release the mouse button when the box is virtually invisible.
Viola - The window is not bothering you. A little window pops up when the phone is ringing with the number of the caller. But I want to see that anyway.

that was so %^$$ easy and simple

Zork · Post by **Zork** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 7:08 pm

The amount of memory and page file that majicblock uses for its simple task puts it well below my standards for a program that I will use. 4t Tray Min is a decent bit of code but its not worth $20 to me for this one task and I am not about to relearn the debuggers; its been years since I was into that.

I want access to the softphone, no popup (no focus theft whatsoever would be best), and am willing to give up approx. zero CPU and a few megs of RAM/page for a program that provides this. A Pro version of 4tTM would fit all this except the theft of focus, and would be fine. A change to the programming staff at MajicJack to include some common sense would also be acceptable.

Does anyone know of a solution?

Denver Dave · Post by **Denver Dave** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:19 pm

The Solution is for someone from MJ to come and explain why they haven't fixed the issue. There seems to be 2 issues, if I'm understanding things correctly.

(1) The "one minute of patience, hours of wasted time" screen that hogs the screen when initially connecting to MJ

(2) The Magic Jack interface that comes up when then number is called. (not sure about this one, not an issue for me).

Zork · Post by **Zork** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:19 am

Well the first issue is solved easily enough by just looking at the parameters the launcher sends to majicjack.exe. Sure the coders are lazy but its easy to work around.

The second issue tends to be a real pain. I guess I will have to run the thing as a service. Is there any way at all to pull up the call log in such an environment?

It seems unlikely they will include names with the caller ID; I think that would up the rates which is their main selling point. Is it possible to create a program that would take the name associated with a number (from the contact list) and send that as the caller ID string out the phone jack when a call arrives, or am I just dreaming?

Denver Dave · Post by **Denver Dave** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:12 pm

Well the first issue is solved easily enough by just looking at the parameters the launcher sends to majicjack.exe. Sure the coders are lazy but its easy to work around.

This is the first time that I've noticed this mentioned. Is there more information about where to find the launcher and setting parameters? If I could fix this, I'd leave my MJ plugged in and use it - now I don't leave it in the drive and I forget I have it.

Thanks

cdgfx84 · Post by **cdgfx84** » Sun Feb 08, 2009 5:41 pm

I tried magicblock but got this error after install

lbholde · Post by **lbholde** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 2:49 pm

Hi everyone!

What I want to do is stop the MagicJack program from popping up while I'm playing a 3D game. When the popup comes up it completly messes up the game.

I tried magicBlock, but it does not stop the game from getting messed up, because the popup still briefly pops up.

I installed the 4t tray minimizer, and followed the directions in this post, but MagicJack still pops up. I must be an idiot. Can someone post the exact options I need to check or not check? Thanks!

mberlant · Post by **mberlant** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:29 pm

Have you tried running the MJ softphone as a service?

lbholde · Post by **lbholde** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:20 pm

mberlant wrote:Have you tried running the MJ softphone as a service?

No, not yet. I think I figured out the correct 4t settings to stop the popup, but yet still it interrupts the game when someone picks up the phone. So I think the service will be the next thing I will try.

Mp3Gamer00 · Post by **Mp3Gamer00** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 10:39 pm

http://www.filekeeper.org/download/shared/MJ.zip

I wrote this program in VB6. It does everything I need. It hides the magicJack softphone and it never steals focus, it removes all banners from the softphone and also removes the Google link. I have included the source code in the zip file. Feel free to steal the code and share it so long as you make improvements. Let me know if i am missing anything important from the program. Enjoy

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