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Don't forget to thank the late, great, Frank Zappa. Author of the original spec.daisyanne wrote:That work great, your my hero.
thanks!
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What is the difference between running mj as a service and running as an application? Is it better to run as a service? Is the audio quality better? Need to know what error is being reported.greginky wrote:I NEED HELP. First off, I am an A+ certified Tech, so I should be able to follow directions. I am using XP Pro SP 2, I followed the directions to a T, I copy and pasted all the code, I put the correct drive letter in, I have done all of this 3 times to make sure. I get a dial tone, but when I look in Services I still have to start the service, the progress bar runs through, then I get the error message saying (The MagicJack Service on the local computer started then stopped.Some services stop automatically if they have no work to do, for example, the performance logs and alerts service.) Even though the service shows as not being started I still get a dial tone, then I dial and get silence then after a short time I get the dial tone again, what did I do wrong????
There is no difference in audio quality. The only difference is that instead of the application starting up when you log on it starts up behind the scenes regardless of whether or not you are logged on. (That is if you run it as a system service as the OP instructs.) When the application runs as a service it also no longer interacts with your screen. This means that each time a call comes in the application will not take over your screen. It also means that if you want to use the soft phone features of magicJack you will have to allow the service to interact with your desktop by checking the option in the service properties and then restarting the service. Alternatively you can stop the service and manually launch the application if you need to use the soft phone.noneyah wrote:
There is no difference in audio quality. The only difference is that instead of the application starting up when you log on it starts up behind the scenes regardless of whether or not you are logged on. (That is if you run it as a system service as the OP instructs.) When the application runs as a service it also no longer interacts with your screen. This means that each time a call comes in the application will not take over your screen. It also means that if you want to use the soft phone features of magicJack you will have to allow the service to interact with your desktop by checking the option in the service properties and then restarting the service. Alternatively you can stop the service and manually launch the application if you need to use the soft phone.noneyah wrote:
Maybe you are running under local system? You cannot run the service under local system. You need run MJ service under a local admin account. Dial tone will sound if MJ is plugged in and even though MJ is not working...greginky wrote:I NEED HELP. First off, I am an A+ certified Tech, so I should be able to follow directions. I am using XP Pro SP 2, I followed the directions to a T, I copy and pasted all the code, I put the correct drive letter in, I have done all of this 3 times to make sure. I get a dial tone, but when I look in Services I still have to start the service, the progress bar runs through, then I get the error message saying (The MagicJack Service on the local computer started then stopped.Some services stop automatically if they have no work to do, for example, the performance logs and alerts service.) Even though the service shows as not being started I still get a dial tone, then I dial and get silence then after a short time I get the dial tone again, what did I do wrong????
Good to know - thanks for clarification... I recall I was getting an error and I changed that and it worked for me... this was back in February, so my memory has faded a bit....antoinefinch wrote:I RUN MJ on my WINXP SP3 PC as local service set to automatic. with no problems
The Resource Kit works. I know that you get a message when installing telling you that SOME stuff is incompatible but what is needed works. Look at page 2 for vista instructions.johnnyr41 wrote:I did this on my XP machine and it work great. The problem is that I upgraded to Vista and the resource kit doesn't work with It.
Is there a way to do the same, but with Vista?
We arent modifying their software. We are changing the directory of the files on OUR computer and telling our computer to run them when and how we want.JohnODon wrote:Just curious...
Has anyone thought of a reason why this may break the MagicJack TOS? Is there anything about "they own the software and you cannot modify it in anyway" (like moving the app data directory).
I love this idea but really don't want my service termintaed.
John
I have a solution that I just created tonight and posted in another thread. Here is the info I posted there:kazoo37 wrote:I am also wondering this. I have seen it asked a few times in this thread with no response.ralfo wrote:The question I have about running MJ as a service is will it still get updates on startup if its needed? Is there anyway of verifying this?
Thanks
If you use my utilities suite, it has a button you can click to remove the startup entry if you want.arcadia2uk wrote:This works great, thank you.
However, a minor nuissance I have is that after every update the cdloader2.exe has to be unchecked in MSConfig, as well as move the C:\Documents and Settings\Your Username\Application Data\mjusbsp folder to its new location.
Also, since it's a "new" program location, make sure this passes through your firewall.
bishop-360 wrote:I have created a batch file to put everything in place to run MJ as a service. It worked perfectly for me. The batch file is written in it's most basic form of scripting.
It also incorporates Stroths MagicJack Update Script 1.3 and will automatically schedule and update check at 03:00 everyday.
The only requirements are Windows XP Pro and the drive letter of the MJ USB drive (The one labeled "PHONE") be changed to the "T" drive
The file can be downloaded here:
http://rapidshare.com/files/184334919/MagicService.exe
This is what the script looks like.
ECHO OFF
taskkill /f /IM magicjack.exe /T
taskkill /f /IM magicjackloader.exe /T
taskkill /f /IM mjsetup.exe /T
md "C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\Tools"
md "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\mjusbsp"
md "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\mjusbsp\ar00000"
md "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\mjusbsp\in00000"
md "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\mjusbsp\st00000"
md "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\mjusbsp\ug00000"
md "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\mjusbsp\Upgrade"
copy "c:\Program Files\magicservice\instsrv.exe" "C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\Tools"
copy "c:\Program Files\magicservice\srvany.exe" "C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\Tools"
copy "C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Application Data\mjusbsp" "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\mjusbsp"
copy "C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Application Data\mjusbsp" "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\mjusbsp\ar00000"
copy "C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Application Data\mjusbsp" "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\mjusbsp\in00000"
copy "C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Application Data\mjusbsp" "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\mjusbsp\st00000"
copy "C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Application Data\mjusbsp" "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\mjusbsp\ug00000"
copy "C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Application Data\mjusbsp" "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\mjusbsp\Upgrade"
md "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\MJAutoUpdate"
md "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\MJAutoUpdate\Autohotkey Source"
copy "C:\Program Files\magicservice\MJAutoUpdate" "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\MJAutoUpdate"
copy "C:\Program Files\magicservice\MJAutoUpdate\Autohotkey Source" "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\MJAutoUpdate\Autohotkey Source"
"C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\Tools\instsrv.exe" "MagicJack" "C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\Tools\srvany.exe"
"c:\Program Files\magicservice\magicjack.reg"
net stop magicjack
net start magicjack
net start "task scheduler"
at 03:00 /every:M,T,W,Th,F,S,Su "C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\MJAutoUpdate\MJupdate.exe"
"C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application Data\MJAutoUpdate\MJupdate.exe"
Registry info looks like this:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\MagicJack]
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\MagicJack\Parameters]
"Application"=""C:\\Documents and Settings\\All Users\\Application Data\\mjusbsp\\MagicJack.exe" /scf _magicJackPersonalDataRoot "T:\\magicJack""
The text above can not be run by its self, it needs the rest of the files that are compressed in the archived file.
I'm sure there are other script files out there to do this but this one I created worked for me and hopefully it can help someone else out.
Note: I think this will work with XP Home but you will have to manually kill the magicjack processes in task manager.
Let me know if it works for you!
Hi semicharm,semicharm wrote:
1) The location I was moving the MJ files to was wrong. The updates expect MJ to be installed in the user's home folder, but when running as a service it's really just running under a special system account, so the files need to be moved there instead. I've updated my directions to take that into account.
