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Minimum Requirements

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Does anyone know the absolute minimum for an adequate installation. I need to get this tumor off of the side of my laptop, so I guess I'll have to invest in a Desktop to host it. Do you think bootleg XP would be ok for this, or will I need a genuine copy?
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Thanks for the replies. Any suggestions for an ATA to use?
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Ho do you guys get the SIP info to use it in ATA and ASTERIX etc?

When I start Fiddler, MJ says it can't connect to the Internet. All I see in Fiddler is a server certificate coming from the prov. servers.
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or pmdump

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Frank Zappa wrote:An alternative method would be to use a tool such as "winhex" or anything like it to see what is in memory on your very own computer.
Or you could just dump the magicjack.exe's memory using a tool like pmdump. You'll see a lot of interesting data in the dump file.
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Any chance of this thing running on an old windows 98 233mhz tablet computer? a normal XP capable computer just takes too much electricity raising the monthly cost to something like $18 a month when you add in the cost to power the dedicated computer (wish it used an ethernet jack grrr :-)

IF it can run on the tablet it will only cost $3-$4 a month in E to run it (and would also run for 90+minutes during a power outage :-)
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nerys wrote:Any chance of this thing running on an old windows 98 233mhz tablet computer? a normal XP capable computer just takes too much electricity raising the monthly cost to something like $18 a month when you add in the cost to power the dedicated computer (wish it used an ethernet jack grrr :-)

IF it can run on the tablet it will only cost $3-$4 a month in E to run it (and would also run for 90+minutes during a power outage :-)
See if you can get SJphone to run on it
http://www.sjlabs.com/sjp.html
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Post by nerys »

So the default software won't run? (I just ordered it today so I have not yet tried it) if it does not I will try sjphone (thanks for the link)

Also any idea if I can run more than one one the same machine? (default software or any other software matters not to me)
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nerys wrote:Any chance of this thing running on an old windows 98 233mhz tablet computer? a normal XP capable computer just takes too much electricity raising the monthly cost to something like $18 a month when you add in the cost to power the dedicated computer (wish it used an ethernet jack grrr :-)

IF it can run on the tablet it will only cost $3-$4 a month in E to run it (and would also run for 90+minutes during a power outage :-)

Where do you get your numbers from? $18 a month? I think you need to recheck your figures.

You might want to consider something like this.
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35 cents/month

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Use a PAP2 and fugettabout a computer


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Re: 35 cents/month

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crackerjack wrote:Use a PAP2 and fugettabout a computer


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Yup i unlocked an old sunrocket spa2102-r that i reset by accident....It's simple once you know how. I made it so line one has magicjack and second is gizmoproject:-) hey its free so why not :D If anyone needs help unlocking. you can ask
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Re: 35 cents/month

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kumar wrote:Yup i unlocked an old sunrocket spa2102-r that i reset by accident....It's simple once you know how.
From 'factory reset' state, the SPA would normally first download a 'customization' file from prov.sipura.net, then read a config file from Sunrocket. Can you unlock a unit even if the customization file is not present? If so, I would greatly appreciate it if you could share the technique, just in case Sipura/Linksys changes the data on their site.
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Well are you talking about an old sunrcoket box or what. Has it been activated with sunrocket once or not? If it has been activated then you can download an unlocker, burn it to a cd, reboot with the cd in, then plug in the Linksys directly to the computers nic using a CAT 5 and follow the directions. Then once i did that i had access to the online management thing and I changed the provisionng to no so Teleshit wouldn't get back in and changed my password. Works like a charm with 2 lines.
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Post by Stewart »

Thanks for the reply, but I don't understand what you did.
kumar wrote:Well are you talking about an old sunrcoket box or what.
Yes, SunRocket.
kumar wrote:Has it been activated with sunrocket once or not?
Yes.
kumar wrote:If it has been activated then ...
Yes, I'm aware of how to unlock a device once it has been 'customized' by Sipura, whether further provisioned by SunRocket or not. However, I thought that a 'factory reset', e.g. as done with the 73738# IVR command, would reset the customization and the device would then download a customization file from Sipura again. In your previous post, you mentioned an accidental reset. What kind of reset did you do? After that reset, were you able to unlock the device without first allowing it to get a file from Sipura?
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Check out here for unlocking the SPA-2102
http://gizmopasswords.blogspot.com/
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[/quote]Yes, I'm aware of how to unlock a device once it has been 'customized' by Sipura, whether further provisioned by SunRocket or not. However, I thought that a 'factory reset', e.g. as done with the 73738# IVR command, would reset the customization and the device would then download a customization file from Sipura again. In your previous post, you mentioned an accidental reset. What kind of reset did you do? After that reset, were you able to unlock the device without first allowing it to get a file from Sipura?[/quote]

Aite by reset accidenly i mean, I was googling up day after Sunrocket Left my Indian Ass. Everyone says yea do a hard reset that should fix it.I did it and found out the next day that you didn't haev to reset and if you did then it would screw the process. So at that time there was 2 ways. A) download the config file and make it pull from yout computer (make it a http server) or b)use the live cd if you didnt reset it. I couldn't do a and my device was reset so i gaev up. On Sunday i was bored so googled it up for the heck of it and found out i could use a new verision of the live cd unlocker to unlock a reset one. It worked and boom. ANYWAY to answer your question....When you do a reset it doesnt try to get the file from Sipira. It still wants the sunrocket server.
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kumar wrote:ANYWAY to answer your question....When you do a reset it doesnt try to get the file from Sipira. It still wants the sunrocket server.
Hope that answers your question now.
Many thanks for the clarification. This must have changed, e.g. as a result of a firmware upgrade. Now I don't have to worry about needing to reset, in case I accidentally misconfigure a device.
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Stewart wrote:
kumar wrote:ANYWAY to answer your question....When you do a reset it doesnt try to get the file from Sipira. It still wants the sunrocket server.
Hope that answers your question now.
Many thanks for the clarification. This must have changed, e.g. as a result of a firmware upgrade. Now I don't have to worry about needing to reset, in case I accidentally misconfigure a device.


Yes, sorry I didn't understand the questsion at first, So is your spa2102 unlocked? alsois it a 2102-r or regular. If its regular that makes the process esasier to my inderstanding
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Post by Stewart »

kumar wrote:So is your spa2102 unlocked? alsois it a 2102-r or regular.
I have three -r units, presently all unlocked and working ok. I was concerned that if in the future a unit gets reset, either accidentally, or because I misconfigured it and need to reset it, I would be in trouble if Sipura/Linksys had deleted or modified the file corresponding to the MAC for that unit.

Since you happened to mention that you re-unlocked your unit after a reset, I was curious if there was a trick of which I was unaware. Now, if I understand you correctly, no special trick is needed, because the customization is preserved and the unit will fetch a config from SR, which can be easily spoofed.

Thanks.
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Post by joecanadian »

not that any one cares but

a average laptop is 60-80 watt hours of power used..

and a sipura like most ATA's is like 5volts x 2amps = 10 watts hours of power used

and my experience on voip running totally tweeked up Linux (not much running in memory) you can run on 300mzh PII voip not to bad as long as the unit does not have to compress to a codec or compensate a bad or flaky connection.. (so using g711/ulaw/alaw, not g729,iLBC, possibly not gsm)

but anything to be safe below 400mzh (especially in the bloated over head world of Microsoft, with antivirus, and useless stuff running) might not be enough and at least a 256 ram +

the thing is who knows how big this software is that they will upgrade you to with out your knowledge and how much memory it will use and how greedy they will get as time goes on for your statistical info or what sort of stuff they will be running in the hidden parts in the back..

no matter how fast you run your Microsoft vista/xp/2000/98 nothing beats voice quality on hardware.. its nite and day (software always sucks) If the Magic jack(software via glorified USB soundcard!) was a true hardware ATA then it would not suck.. but its really good on hardware like a snom or sipura or other ATA's

Windows is from a cooperate company and they set the rules on how you will experience things and you pay a license to use it and get this you don't even own it. They monitor you and you need a antivirus to protect your self from them. They lie to you and what bugs me most is people still prefer them!

Linux is for the people from the people. It gets better every day every min. As that happens people slowly wake up and learn what its like to be free. they slow innovation by stopping the growth because of all the patents they own and do nothing with hoping to make golf from there idea they stole and want to sell you.

sorry for the rant

Magicjack is sortof like this..

they want you to use there product on a crappy device using a crappy OS. Flooding you with I see a future of ads They do not want you to use a hardware device and have clearer experience with more stability or dependence on a running Microsoft computer or worst stuck in the bubble of a apple world. Be nice that they had it proper for Linux (u know use a multi OS compiler! then it would of worked on all OS systems out of the box? what is wrong with these people)

I guess it translates to a toy that somewhat works, quality stinks that has lots of ads and requires computer to chug all day long. Almost seems like they want you to buy it figures the service might suck so much but work enough to make some LD calls that you will pay and not use it that much
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