MagicJack and VMware
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MagicJack and VMware
Anyone have this working???
(SUSE Linux Host, XP Pro Guest)
Problem: Menu / Volume/Headset Control -> the Telephone choice is ALWAYS grayed out -- can ONLY use SoftPhone
Below, the Sound Devices always show "Creative Sound Blaster PCI"
Tried it on 4 different Hardware w/ numerous different MJ's
Thanks in advance
(SUSE Linux Host, XP Pro Guest)
Problem: Menu / Volume/Headset Control -> the Telephone choice is ALWAYS grayed out -- can ONLY use SoftPhone
Below, the Sound Devices always show "Creative Sound Blaster PCI"
Tried it on 4 different Hardware w/ numerous different MJ's
Thanks in advance
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Frank, hmmm are you skeptical BECAUSE you are from Missouri??? LOLFrank Zappa wrote:I am not aware of a way to utilize the usb device in vmware. I've heard of it being done, but I am skeptical. I am from Missouri...
I do it all the time -- a bit tricky under Linux (because some Linux distributions do not "automount" the USB devices); i.e., your VMware Host must see it before the Guest can even recognize it.
I just need the MagicJack "Hardware" phone to work and I am golden ...
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Why not just get your sip credentials and hack it together to work nativly with Linux?
http://www.tjnet.com/software/index.htm
http://www.tjnet.com/software/index.htm
NDA
FYI - You need to sign an NDA to get the Tiger Jet SDK...laserjobs wrote:Why not just get your sip credentials and hack it together to work natively with Linux?
http://www.tjnet.com/software/index.htm
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Honestly? Time ... and time = moneylaserjobs wrote:Why not just get your sip credentials and hack it together to work nativly with Linux?
http://www.tjnet.com/software/index.htm
With all the screwing around I am doing with Linux and VMware and everything else I am doing, I do not have time or desire to "reinvent the wheel" ... IF it has already been invented. Plus I have other VOIP using SIP device working while I wait for the MJ to mature and "grow up".
On the "official" MagicJack Forum some folks had claimed to have it working but I could never get any specifics.
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Folks: I think you may be missing the point.Frank Zappa wrote:Asterisk is native linux....
1. I don't want to spend time writing any code for this to work .... and VMware is an easy interim step since I have it up and running already until MJ provides a native Linux version (which they claim after Mac). I have turned a blind eye and use native XP Laptops when as necessary etc.
2. Understand: I want to use "old school" ANALOG phone devices/FAX with MJ -- NOT the softphone.
3. Anything that involves lots of Time (coding) or lots of $$$ (specialized hardware for Asterisk) ... is ruled out.
Let me know if I am missing something ... can I use Asterisk + MJ + Analog phone device w/o any additional $$$?
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Thanks, but I just checked it again and it said "The TJ init Utility has been developed to enable third party VOIP applications (such as Dialpad, Net2phone,STanaphone, Msn, Netmeeting...) to use our hardware without modify their software."Frank Zappa wrote:Try the tjinit utility from the tigerjet website.
It is focusing on using Softphone with other SIP hardware.
I want to use analog "Hardphone" with other SIP MJ hardware.
I will check some of the other posts on here about using SIP hardware with MJ credentials.
Anyone recommend a good cheap SIP device that works???
Sipura/Linksys/Cisco 3102-NA????
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laserjobs wrote:Somthing I found on Tigerjet and Linux
http://www.earth.li/~noodles/hardware-usbfxs.html
Hmmm ... very interesting. Thanks Laserjobs ... I will check it out!
Let me know if you can recommend cheap SIP device that can use the MJ account - I would appreciate it.
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The problem is getting the SIP credentials from MJ.
Many people here report success in obtaining SIP details using Fiddler. I tried today, but this is what is happening:
Many people here report success in obtaining SIP details using Fiddler. I tried today, but this is what is happening:
- *When fiddler is running (with HTTPS enabled), it seems MJ fails to receive the authentication and shows "Connect to Internet and click here" in Softphone window.
*All I can see in the Fiddler is MJ trying get a certificate from Prov servers and receiving it. I dont know if the certificate contains the SIP details.
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LOL, is it ever easy??? All I want is a simple way to bring MJ into the "infrastructure" (and take Windoze OUT, eventually) ... i.e., already running Linux boxes (and Windoze using VMware), would be cake to string a MJ off of it.aone999 wrote:The problem is getting the SIP credentials from MJ.
Many people here report success in obtaining SIP details using Fiddler. I tried today, but this is what is happening:Can somebody post some help on this?
- *When fiddler is running (with HTTPS enabled), it seems MJ fails to receive the authentication and shows "Connect to Internet and click here" in Softphone window.
*All I can see in the Fiddler is MJ trying get a certificate from Prov servers and receiving it. I dont know if the certificate contains the SIP details.
Or, would go for using a SIP device and be done with it.
This was exactly what I meant about time = money LOL
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If what smcinaz says here is true, getting the SIP details shouldn't be so hard. May be I am doing doing something wrong somewhere.testing123 wrote: LOL, is it ever easy??? All I want is a simple way to bring MJ into the "infrastructure" (and take Windoze OUT, eventually) ... i.e., already running Linux boxes (and Windoze using VMware), would be cake to string a MJ off of it.
Or, would go for using a SIP device and be done with it.
This was exactly what I meant about time = money LOL
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Yeah, I saw that ... will have to give that method (SIP device) a shot as well.aone999 wrote:If what smcinaz says here is true, getting the SIP details shouldn't be so hard. May be I am doing doing something wrong somewhere.testing123 wrote: LOL, is it ever easy??? All I want is a simple way to bring MJ into the "infrastructure" (and take Windoze OUT, eventually) ... i.e., already running Linux boxes (and Windoze using VMware), would be cake to string a MJ off of it.
Or, would go for using a SIP device and be done with it.
This was exactly what I meant about time = money LOL
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I downloaded sjinit and installed it. It immediately recognized MJ and I was able to use my analog cordless phone to talk on Google talk and Yahoo.
I'm no SIP guru, so I don't really know what happened, but MJ's proxies were out at the time. Haven't had time to play with it much since, but I hope this helps.
I'm no SIP guru, so I don't really know what happened, but MJ's proxies were out at the time. Haven't had time to play with it much since, but I hope this helps.
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Interesting ... doesn't the hacked Vonage device go back if you do a Reset? (i.e., will try to re-connect with Vonage, if Reset and once it does it locked to Vonage?)Frank Zappa wrote:I've used the AC-211's, I'll be trying the MTA6328 later this week when I get hold of one. I expect good results. The pap2's also work great, i've tested three of these hacked vonage boxes.testing123 wrote:Any idea which one?Frank Zappa wrote:SR boxes work perfectly, and they sound really good.
MTA6328-2RE
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AC-211-SR
?? I found both on eBay
Thanks
(FYI, I tried the Linux tools mentioned above and no dice ... tjnet USB driver bombed badly on compile)
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I didn't have that kind of luck at all.ke7doy wrote:I downloaded sjinit and installed it. It immediately recognized MJ and I was able to use my analog cordless phone to talk on Google talk and Yahoo.
I'm no SIP guru, so I don't really know what happened, but MJ's proxies were out at the time. Haven't had time to play with it much since, but I hope this helps.
EDIT: I used "tjnet", "tjctl" and "tjdemo"; I don't see any "sjinit"
EDIT2: ke7doy, you are talking about Linux, right?
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Here's my minimal experience with MJ and Linux:
Ubuntu ships with Ekiga (a.k.a. GnomeMeeting) softphone pre-installed. When configured for YMAX proxy, quality was excellent, using computer headset. Plugged in MJ, all four devices recognized by OS. Pointed Ekiga at TigerJet audio, could then speak and listen using analog phone. Ekiga cannot use TigerJet HID interface, so still had to use computer keyboard for dialing or answering. Also, echo canceller in Ekiga couldn't deal with the high level of electrical echo from TJ device, so had to turn transmit and receive volume way down to avoid severe echo heard by remote party. Perhaps some parameter changes would help.
Made a brief attempt with SJphone. Did not work well with default Ubuntu drivers -- inbound voice was unacceptably choppy with headset or TJ device, even after tweaking buffer sizes, etc. Did not make effort to try alternative sound schemes. HID device did not work, either. I don't know whether TJ is unsupported in Linux version, or if I just did something stupid. I did verify proper functioning of HID under Linux, using TigerJet utility.
Ubuntu ships with Ekiga (a.k.a. GnomeMeeting) softphone pre-installed. When configured for YMAX proxy, quality was excellent, using computer headset. Plugged in MJ, all four devices recognized by OS. Pointed Ekiga at TigerJet audio, could then speak and listen using analog phone. Ekiga cannot use TigerJet HID interface, so still had to use computer keyboard for dialing or answering. Also, echo canceller in Ekiga couldn't deal with the high level of electrical echo from TJ device, so had to turn transmit and receive volume way down to avoid severe echo heard by remote party. Perhaps some parameter changes would help.
Made a brief attempt with SJphone. Did not work well with default Ubuntu drivers -- inbound voice was unacceptably choppy with headset or TJ device, even after tweaking buffer sizes, etc. Did not make effort to try alternative sound schemes. HID device did not work, either. I don't know whether TJ is unsupported in Linux version, or if I just did something stupid. I did verify proper functioning of HID under Linux, using TigerJet utility.
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Well, I thought it was pretty simple really.Frank Zappa wrote:What exactly is the overall goal you are trying to accomplish, in other words, why are you wanting to run the MJ under VMWare to begin with? Perhaps there is another solution to accomplish the end you seek.
1) So far the only "fully" supported MJ platforms were XP and Vista
2) No desire to add another "always on" PC for Home phone service
3) Already have "always on" PC running Linux and VMware (therefore allowing for "fully" supported OS)
4) So: can easily create a minimal Windoze VM to handle MJ for always available phone service that can be remotely controlled and running on a much more stable OS (XP on Linux via VMware which is FAR more stable than XP alone)
5) NOTE: I still want to figure out how to make it work via VMware because my primary laptops are also configured that way and I want to be able to use a "Hardphone" with the Laptops when travelling
6) Remember: The "softphone" IS working -- all I get from the "hardphone" is a high pitched "dialtone" that does not work (Telephone choice is grayed out in MJ menu)
Otherwise, using a SIP device will be acceptable for the "always on" MJ for home use
I hope that is clear.
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Interesting ... I will test it on an Ubuntu Workstation to see how it goes. Then I will try to figure out if it can work with SUSE (the Server); otherwise setup an Ubuntu VM on the Server. Thanks!Stewart wrote:Here's my minimal experience with MJ and Linux:
Ubuntu ships with Ekiga (a.k.a. GnomeMeeting) softphone pre-installed. When configured for YMAX proxy, quality was excellent, using computer headset. Plugged in MJ, all four devices recognized by OS. Pointed Ekiga at TigerJet audio, could then speak and listen using analog phone. Ekiga cannot use TigerJet HID interface, so still had to use computer keyboard for dialing or answering. Also, echo canceller in Ekiga couldn't deal with the high level of electrical echo from TJ device, so had to turn transmit and receive volume way down to avoid severe echo heard by remote party. Perhaps some parameter changes would help.
Made a brief attempt with SJphone. Did not work well with default Ubuntu drivers -- inbound voice was unacceptably choppy with headset or TJ device, even after tweaking buffer sizes, etc. Did not make effort to try alternative sound schemes. HID device did not work, either. I don't know whether TJ is unsupported in Linux version, or if I just did something stupid. I did verify proper functioning of HID under Linux, using TigerJet utility.
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