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ATA setup and MJ

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I plan to purchase MJ for my home use, and I've being looking for ways to set up MJ without having to run my CPU 24/7.
I understand that some folks have been able to run MJ using an ATA, I read some of the previous posting about using ATA, but I need some guidance in the following:

How do you interface MJ to an ATA device (ie: PAP2)? ATA devices such as the Linksys PAP2 features only RJ-45 and RJ-11 connections, no USB, thus the question.

In order to make MJ work with an ATA, where/how would you install the software (driver, .exe) needed to run MJ into the ATA?

Could you run two or more MJ, making calls concurrently, from an ATA that support multiple lines?

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Thanks for the link laserjobs, I got it working now. :wink:
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Nice video laserjobs, although not relevant to my initial question...

About my initial posting, could anyone chime with useful info?
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Rafter wrote:Nice video laserjobs, although not relevant to my initial question...

About my initial posting, could anyone chime with useful info?
Rafter,

I have never used an ATA but to the best of my understanding it has nothing to do with the MagicJack device. In fact after you acquire the SIP information from the MagicJack device, the device ends up in your desk drawer.

You program in your information to the ATA device and enter the MagicJack system via your MJ SIP access coding. This by the way is against MJ rules and regulations and could get you kicked off the system for good or at least until you buy another MJ device and come back with different personal ID information.

It is also my understanding that they can very easily detect an ATA entry into their system.
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Got it, thanks for the information it clarifies my 1st question. If the physical interface to MJ's network occurs via an ATA without the MJ dongle then I can imagine ways they could detect the ATA device and cancel an account.

Would you be able to shed some light with regards to my second question; Could I install 4 MJs on a single machine and make concurrent calls? MJ's support page mentions that you can install more than one device on a single computer but only one MJ at the time can make calls. Do you know of a work around this limitation in order to enable concurrent calls (without using virtual servers)?


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Post by HolmanGT »

Rafter wrote:Got it, thanks for the information it clarifies my 1st question. If the physical interface to MJ's network occurs via an ATA without the MJ dongle then I can imagine ways they could detect the ATA device and cancel an account.

Would you be able to shed some light with regards to my second question; Could I install 4 MJs on a single machine and make concurrent calls? MJ's support page mentions that you can install more than one device on a single computer but only one MJ at the time can make calls. Do you know of a work around this limitation in order to enable concurrent calls (without using virtual servers)?


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Rafter
Rafter,

In my explanation I used the acronym SIP it is really called something else but the story is correct regardless.

On the subject of multiple MJ on one machine for simultaneous usage without a Virtual machine the answer is (drum roll for effect) NO. :cry:
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Post by Rafter »

HolmanGT, once again thanks for the prompt replies..

I am bummed that there is no native support for multiple MJ devices on a single machine, making concurrent calls.

As an alternative to using virtual servers, just tossing an idea out to get your reaction - what if I was to get four Thin Clients (TC) connect one MJ to each Thin Client, then connect each Thin Client to a network HUB, then the HUB would be connected to my server - would that solve the problem or do I get a drum roll.. :)

Regards.
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Post by HolmanGT »

Rafter wrote:HolmanGT, once again thanks for the prompt replies..

I am bummed that there is no native support for multiple MJ devices on a single machine, making concurrent calls.

As an alternative to using virtual servers, just tossing an idea out to get your reaction - what if I was to get four Thin Clients (TC) connect one MJ to each Thin Client, then connect each Thin Client to a network HUB, then the HUB would be connected to my server - would that solve the problem or do I get a drum roll.. :)

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-Rafter
[Drum roll for effect and antisipation...] YES four thin clients would work very nicely. What kind up Up/Dn speeds do you have? if you have between 512 kbps and 1 mbps up and at least 3 mbps down you should be home free. Put them up on a shelf in your closet or wherever and it would be it "A done deal".

If you have FIOS or some un-Godly really high speed like that you could probably add a dozen and still watch streaming TV or movies while the entire family or office was on the phones simultaneously.

Did I mention that if you buy Thin Clients for four you get free Egg Rolls when you buy them from me. :roll:

PS - HUB is a dirty word and if not dirty it is definitely slow. Think "Switch" or "Router" but never a HUB. These days you can buy a D-Link Gigabit router for $90 dollars at Costco and a Gigabit Net Gear switch with eight ports for about the same amount.
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ooma-Area/Prefix 435-579
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MJ on HP T5730 2GBF/2GBR Thin Client XPe SP2 Router Dlink Dir-655
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Post by Rafter »

After researching VOIP, it seems that at a minimal 64kbps per line with no packet droppings = good packet calling. Currently my ISP lets me have 2 to 4 mbps down and little over 512 up stream, but I will triple check.

My bad with regards to the usage of the H.. word, guess I am way rusty on my terminology... :wink: A friend has a fairly new Gbbit Netgear router which I prob. could snag for $35

I'll start canvassing for thin clients at ebay... although you offer of TC with Egg rolls sound pretty good as well.


Btw, thank you for the excellent advice!
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