using MJ remotely

[raulroasado]

Dialmate - Great Trick

Has anyone heard of a product called DIALMATE?

From what I am reading about it - it sounds really great - especially if you've got a free incoming plan. It's a device that you plug in to you voip phone (or you home phone if it has 3 way calling) at your home site. You can then set it up so that you call it and hang up after one ring. It will call you back (free incoming) and then allow you to dial another number that it will conect you to using your home phone's 3-way calling feature. Whatever rates you have on your home phone is what you pay. If you've got free long distance or free international at home - the call will be free. You can realize benefits from other phones besides your cell phone. Even if you don't have free incoming but you want to make an international call at your home phone's rate - you can use this.
Magicjack with Dialmate .



** For more information check the link :Dialmate The Voip Switch

**Thanks to ( ELI ) from other forum for part of the information**

[MagicJake]

Dialmate - Great Trick

Has anyone heard of a product called DIALMATE?

From what I am reading about it - it sounds really great - especially if you've got a free incoming plan. It's a device that you plug in to you voip phone (or you home phone if it has 3 way calling) at your home site. You can then set it up so that you call it and hang up after one ring. It will call you back (free incoming) and then allow you to dial another number that it will connect you to using your home phone's 3-way calling feature. Whatever rates you have on your home phone is what you pay. If you've got free long distance or free international at home - the call will be free. You can realize benefits from other phones besides your cell phone. Even if you don't have free incoming but you want to make an international call at your home phone's rate - you can use this.

AT&T wireless offered a cellular plan years ago that offered free cellular calls to and from your home number. Similar I guess to what Sprint is offering now. I think this was more than twelve years ago. Anyway Dialmate released a call-back product at the time and specifically marketed it to be used with the AT&T plan to get free unlimited cellular minutes from AT&T. They advertised this quite heavily and it wasn't long thereafter that AT&T discontinued the offering. Also around the same time various carriers who were offering free incoming calls discontinued their offerings. I'd guess that the Dialmate box may have motivated the change to some degree. More recently Nextel does offer plans with "free incoming" but the monthly rate is not cheap. I don't know of any other major carriers offering free incoming anymore except the Sprint Home which allows free incoming only from one selected number. I don't think the earlier Dialmate product did the call bridging.

[msiam]

But if T Mobile is the carrier with Fav plan, and the call back comes from one number, a fav, then that would work for the use with this gadit.. So.. Is the devise set to call you back from the same home number?? That would work.. Wouldn't it? Pass the Popcorn, please!!

[MagicJake]

But if T Mobile is the carrier with Fav plan, and the call back comes from one number, a fav, then that would work for the use with this gadit.. So.. Is the devise set to call you back from the same home number?? That would work.. Wouldn't it? Pass the Popcorn, please!!

I think it would work with the T-Mob faves. I think you'd need two lines at home (VoIP or otherwise) if you wanted to have the unlimited cellular outgoing and incoming without the call back using a bridge. I don't think the thing with the one line with the call back and the three way calling would work for incoming unless the Dialmate box was smart enough to behave differently depending on whether the call coming to the Dialmate was from you or someone else. To use it with one home line with three-way calling the Dialmate box would have to do the following:

1) Outgoing from your cellphone - If the line connected to the Dialmate box is called from your cellphone, the dialmate box would have to hang up and call you back at your cell phone. Then when you answer, the dialmate box has to listen for the tones you enter for the number you want to call. Then the Dialmate has to flash the hookswitch to initate a three-way call. Then the Dialmate box has to dial the number you told it. Then the Dialmate box has to flash the hookswitch once more to bring you into the three way call. Also, you have to be concerned that when you hang up your cell phone that the Dialmate box reliably knows enough to hang up the line which could be tricky.

2) Incoming to your cell phone - Someone would call the line connected to the Dialmate box. The Dialmate box would have to recognize that the call is from someone other than your cellphone. It would have to answer the call then flash the hookswitch to put the caller on hold. It would then have to dial your cellphone number and flash the hookswitch again to complete the three-way call. The caller would have to know enough not to hang up while he is briefly put on hold. Again, the Dialmate box may not reliably hang up when you hang up your cell phone.

I'm not sure whether the Dialmate box has these capabilities.

Many years ago even before the Dialmate boxes were available I had a setup to do function #1 above. I had a cell phone plan that had unlimited incoming calls so I didn't need the #2 function to get free incoming. I saw an interesting windows 3.1 software product and I contacted the author in Ohio and told him that I had a way to get free cell phone calls if he would modify his software which was marketed as shareware. He agreed and wrote the software and it worked great and had a lot of control options. It communicated with a 33kbps modem card which was plugged into a 386 computer running Windows 3.1 (yes that was before Windows95 was released for those who don't remember that far back). It worked great for about two years until my cell phone company discontinued the offering of unlimited incoming calls. The software was called RunpagerC5. It never really took off because the programmer used commands that were peculiar to a particular hardware modem with a particular Rockwell chipset. One cool thing it would do was to let you make free calls from payphones that could accept incoming calls as most did at the time. You would call the home number from the payphone and let it ring once and hang up so you would get your money back. The 386 PC would then call you back at the payphone using the caller ID and you would answer the payphone and key in the number you wanted to call followed by the "#" key. The computer and modem would then flash, call the number, and flash again to complete the three way call. So you could call from the payphone with no charge. That was I think around 1992.

Any popcorn left?

[msiam]

While reading through these threads I see that what you are trying to accomplish with the spa 3102 and the dialmate box. This looks just like a free service that is mentioned in the rants and raves http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/1000 ... -t554.html

It is actually free and gives 1000 mins a month, sort of like Grand Central. But if you use this for calling out, it doesn't matter what number you are calling from you cell, because that number never shows up anywhere but on your phone to make the call. This to me defeats the purpose of investing $70 into the 3102 which you would also need a pstn line or another incoming voip. Even if after beta they want to charge 1 or 2 cents a minute for, still in most cases would be a lot less expencive than the investment and the maintaining of the second line to use. We also have to think about "Call Quality here, In most of these set ups we're going to get a delay and mismatch in volumes that will cause distortions. Do you remember using that box in the 90's? I wonder how clear that conversation was. I've set this RingBranch up and let me tell you, having TMobile and this expands my favs to 100 from just one fav position, and the calls are crystal clear with no loss in volume. So, since I don't need it as much as someone on the road making calls constantly, burning up more than 1000 mins a month out of the fav group.. The RingBranch is the "Cats Meow" for me..Just hoping they dont suck me into the prepaid min thing and then change the rules like I read about "Voice Stick".
Hey who ate all the popcorn??!

[MagicJake]

While reading through these threads I see that what you are trying to accomplish with the spa 3102 and the dialmate box. This looks just like a free service that is mentioned in the rants and raves http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/1000 ... -t554.html

It is actually free and gives 1000 mins a month, sort of like Grand Central. But if you use this for calling out, it doesn't matter what number you are calling from you cell, because that number never shows up anywhere but on your phone to make the call. This to me defeats the purpose of investing $70 into the 3102 which you would also need a pstn line or another incoming voip. Even if after beta they want to charge 1 or 2 cents a minute for, still in most cases would be a lot less expencive than the investment and the maintaining of the second line to use. We also have to think about "Call Quality here, In most of these set ups we're going to get a delay and mismatch in volumes that will cause distortions. Do you remember using that box in the 90's? I wonder how clear that conversation was. I've set this RingBranch up and let me tell you, having TMobile and this expands my favs to 100 from just one fav position, and the calls are crystal clear with no loss in volume. So, since I don't need it as much as someone on the road making calls constantly, burning up more than 1000 mins a month out of the fav group.. The RingBranch is the "Cats Meow" for me..Just hoping they dont suck me into the prepaid min thing and then change the rules like I read about "Voice Stick".
Hey who ate all the popcorn??!

That's a pretty good solution. And very economical. I'm sure that would be best for a lot of people. With ringbranch, do you have to know the numbers you'll be calling ahead of time to put them in your faves? 100 faves is a lot, but even if your faves list isn't full I don't think ringbranch will let you call a number that's not entered into your list ahead of time at their website, right? Or can you add numbers to your faves list using your cell phone? I'm not sure how that works. Also, I think that those who want unlimited incoming to their cell would need to use the bridge. I'm sure you're right about having concerns about volume matching with the bridge and as you have pointed out there is the cost of the extra line(s).

One interesting thing about that 386 box from the early nineties was that the call was not bridged between two lines. The call never went through any hardware other than the phone company. The computer simply made a 3-way call from a single phone line just as a person would if he was at your house. It called your cell, flashed, called the person you wanted to talk to, and flashed again. So as long as the phone company provided a good quality 3-way call on the one phone line, the call sounded perfect. But that's ancient history. Now we have VoIP!!! Sorry about hogging the popcorn; There's still some left. Here ya go . . .

P.S That Alltel deal for $22.50/month in the thread you referenced is a great deal to get a cell phone with one "fave" number.

[testing123]

msiam: This is great stuff you posted!

Just call me stubborn then, I still like the concept of providing my own services how I want w/ providers of my choosing so that I am not dependent on a single vendor. I don't mind the $70 investment in a piece of hardware at all (if I could get it all to work LOL). As long as they don't change phone technology so much that even the hardware can't work. (I think this is somewhat less likely than a free voip provider or service crashing and burning)

So I love playing w/ all these services and, of course, love free stuff. But w/ the cost of VOIP dropping like flies and these "free" services coming and going on a whim ... I usually take the somewhat cautious approach and figure out how to do it on my own (in this case w/ a couple of cheap voip accounts) -- giving me some independence from the Rise & Fall of the various Roman Empires that we see on a daily basis. It was the greatest feeling in the world calling the local Telco to cancel service and not request a phone # port.

(I particularly hate the concept of having my Address books in someone else's hands -- do you know what kind of catastrophe it would be if GrandCentral is ever hacked??? I don't even want to think about it).

Call me a stubborn Control and Security freak ... I won't mind at all.

Here ... take some chips; gotta make more popcorn.

While reading through these threads I see that what you are trying to accomplish with the spa 3102 and the dialmate box. This looks just like a free service that is mentioned in the rants and raves http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/1000 ... -t554.html

It is actually free and gives 1000 mins a month, sort of like Grand Central. But if you use this for calling out, it doesn't matter what number you are calling from you cell, because that number never shows up anywhere but on your phone to make the call. This to me defeats the purpose of investing $70 into the 3102 which you would also need a pstn line or another incoming voip. Even if after beta they want to charge 1 or 2 cents a minute for, still in most cases would be a lot less expencive than the investment and the maintaining of the second line to use. We also have to think about "Call Quality here, In most of these set ups we're going to get a delay and mismatch in volumes that will cause distortions. Do you remember using that box in the 90's? I wonder how clear that conversation was. I've set this RingBranch up and let me tell you, having TMobile and this expands my favs to 100 from just one fav position, and the calls are crystal clear with no loss in volume. So, since I don't need it as much as someone on the road making calls constantly, burning up more than 1000 mins a month out of the fav group.. The RingBranch is the "Cats Meow" for me..Just hoping they dont suck me into the prepaid min thing and then change the rules like I read about "Voice Stick".
Hey who ate all the popcorn??!

[msiam]

It seems that both magicJake and testing123 each deserve a big heaping handfull of popcorn, I see your points on having it all in your own control, and yes, playing with all this stuff is most of the fun of it. It seems that when SR took the nosedive it opened up a whole new room of games and free popcorn for a lot of us. I was thrilled to be cutting down on the Tel bill, but, I would've passed right by the magic Jack and this big room full of toys in this forum had I just remained content with what I had. SR's demise was a lot of our awakenings. I've only began this venture where it seems you guys have been playing for awhile ahead of me. Let me tell you , I understand what you mean of making your own monsters.. When My ata fired up that first time with the help of a few here.. I looked like the guy in the Frankenstein Movie running around yelling "IT"S ALIVE!!". Oh what a feeling.. The severing of the big phone companies from around my neck had me flying to the moon on a single bound...And like the other guy said in another thread, I forget where, "maybe next..MagicCable, or magicelectric," and so on... But I do agree with the both of you and I know content with the way it is doesn't allow for growth.. My hats off to you and Im right here watching and paying attention. What now? Full steam ahead..lets go!! mmmm popcorn..mmmm

[testing123]

It seems that both magicJake and testing123 each deserve a big heaping handfull of popcorn, I see your points on having it all in your own control, and yes, playing with all this stuff is most of the fun of it. It seems that when SR took the nosedive it opened up a whole new room of games and free popcorn for a lot of us. I was thrilled to be cutting down on the Tel bill, but, I would've passed right by the magic Jack and this big room full of toys in this forum had I just remained content with what I had. SR's demise was a lot of our awakenings. I've only began this venture where it seems you guys have been playing for awhile ahead of me. Let me tell you , I understand what you mean of making your own monsters.. When My ata fired up that first time with the help of a few here.. I looked like the guy in the Frankenstein Movie running around yelling "IT"S ALIVE!!". Oh what a feeling.. The severing of the big phone companies from around my neck had me flying to the moon on a single bound...And like the other guy said in another thread, I forget where, "maybe next..MagicCable, or magicelectric," and so on... But I do agree with the both of you and I know content with the way it is doesn't allow for growth.. My hats off to you and Im right here watching and paying attention. What now? Full steam ahead..lets go!!

Amen, LOL.

Some eventual nexts for me:
1) Get this frikkin VOIP - Cell - PSTN bonding to actually work -- I haven't been able to test in a couple of weeks because of "real life" other important stuff
2) Diesel Car converted to Vegetable Oil (no joke)
3) Figuring out a PRACTICAL/COST EFFECTIVE way to get the Electric company to pay me back; they are the next b*stards, er, um I mean "provider" that I want to get rid of (or at least mitigate )

Hot dogs anyone??

[msiam]

yeah testing 123, You go ahead and work on items 1,2 and 3.. Me and Orville Redenbacher will keep the bowl full.. I'm watching.. Yeah..I can see me now, talking away on free minutes while driving around in a car that gives off a smell of McDonald's French fires.. Mustard and Onions on mine please...

[Roozie]

Testing123, when all your testing is completed, I hope you would please provide a simple layman's frame of reference as to which piece(s) of equipment to buy (e.g FX-200, two MagicJacks, etc) and any internal software configurations to make everything work successfully. Sounds like you have a great grasp on all the network issues, so anything you could provide the "non-techie" population would be truly helpful.

I am thinking the 2 MJ devices and the FX-200 converter box may be the easiest way to go, and possibly the least expensive. Just hope it all proves true. Keep us posted please, and hope all goes well. Thanks!

Keith

[Roozie]

MagicJake: Believe it or not I understand everything you said in response to what I said. Cool And I know we don't "need" PSTN ... but it made it easier to distinguish each leg.

Okay I see what you mean about distinguishing each leg. It does get a bit confusing since we can't really call one leg of the bridge "incoming" and the other "outgoing" because it is to be used bidirectionally. I assume you're considering the set-up where you can call one regular phone number from your cell phone for free, and receive calls to your cell phone for free from that one number. This as opposed to the cell phone dock thing. And that you want umlimited free incoming and outgoing calls on your cell phone; Right?

How about if we call one leg of the bridge the "home leg" and the other leg of the bridge the "cell leg" rather than PSTN and VOIP which would surely confuse my spinning head

1) Yes, this could actually be accomplished w/ 2 VOIP accounts: 1 "PSTN" imposter that you connect to via RJ11 (an MJ could be used here or any type of phone line including VOIP that gives us a RJ11 to Gateway); the other 1 considered the VOIP side (if using the Linksys/Sipura 3000 series) via SIP Account/Ethernet

2) Currently, you could not use MJ for the "SIP Acct" until they support ATA devices. Yes, it would be super-cheap to use to MJs for both legs.

"then just connect the two magicjack RJ11 jacks together through one of the FXS to FXO converters. No ATA. And as I said earlier, I think the caller ID would even work out."
---That part I don't get ... how do you connect two MJs thru ONE FXS to FXO converter?

Okay here's what I'm saying. Let's say you have no regular phone line at your house or that you don't want to involve your regular phone line in the bridge since someone at home may want to use the line. --Also, you may wish to call someone at your home phone line from your cell phone and use the bridge to do it; so unless you live alone it's best not to involve the regular home phone line.

OK now let's say you buy two magicjacks. And let's say you figure out a way to run both of them on one WindowsXP laptop computer. So the one computer has two little magicjack USB devices coming out of it, each with it's own RJ11 jack (normally for telephones to plug into) and each with their cute little blue lights . And each magicjack USB device has of course it's own telephone number. The two magicjacks will be used for your bridge. One magicjack will be used for the home leg and the other for the cell leg. Let's say that their respective phone numbers are hhh-hhh-hhhh (for the home leg) and ccc-ccc-cccc (for the cell leg). Put the ccc-ccc-cccc number in your T-Mob faves list so you can call it and receive calls from it for free. And let's say your T-Mob cell number is TTT-TTT-TTTT.

Now let's say that you get one of those "FXS to FXO" converters that looks to be about the size of a deck of cards. The converter has two RJ11 jacks on it. Connect each one of those two jacks on the converter box to it's own magicjack RJ11. So you esentially have a loop.

Computer USB#1 ==> home MJ ==> converter RJ11 #1
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Computer USB#2 <=== cell MJ . <=== converter RJ11 #2

Okay, so when you're anywhere in the US and you want to make a free cell phone call to anywhere in the US or Canada, you call ccc-ccc-cccc which is a free "FAVs" number. You enter your four digit pass code. You then hear the dial tone of the home MJ. You then dial Mr. John Smith. Mr. Smith looks at his caller ID and sees hhh-hhh-hhhh. He answers the call and you both talk as long as you like.

A few minutes later Mr. Smith realizes that he forgot to tell you something. His phone has retained your caller ID number so he calls you back at hhh-hhh-hhhh. The converter box is set to "Auto Call Forward / Hot Line" (See description of converter). All calls coming into hhh-hhh-hhhh magicjack will be automatically and immediately forwarded to TTT-TTT-TTTT through the ccc-ccc-cccc magicjack. This function is programmed into the converter box ahead of time. So your T-mob cell phone receives a call from ccc-ccc-cccc which is on it's FAV's list. No Charge! And you see the ccc-ccc-cccc number of the incoming call on your cell phone so you know you can answer it without being charged for minutes. Just give the ccc-ccc-cccc number to all your friends as if it was your cell number. Don't ever give out the real cell number.

And you don't even need an ATA at all to do this. Just the two MJ USB devices and the one "FXS to FXO" converter and the laptop. If you couldn't get both magicjacks to run on a single laptop you could run them with two laptops I suppose.

If you were using Viatalk which does support BYOD you could use a Lynksys 2102 and loop the converter between Line1 and Line2. This would be really compact and slick and low power.

Viatalk does have a sort of "two line" deal but they just give you only one phone number and both lines ring with that number so that wouldn't work unfortunately.

And as far as the SPA3000 series goes, I know it has a FXO jack but I've never used a 3000 series unit so I can't really comment too much about specifically how to do that. I think maybe you could get The SPA3000 series ATA to bridge without the converter using two Viatalk accounts or something like that. Even then I'm not sure whether or not you could make it bidirectional. But the two USB magicjacks with the converter box solution would still be the cheapest in the long run due to the minimal fees compared with other VOIP providers.

BTW it looks like the converter box doesn't come with it's own power adaptor and is designed share the power supply of the ATA; I see that there is a power in and a power out. It looks like it says 9-20 volts which is higher than the 5volt SPA2102. You may need to get a seperate DC power adaptor which is no biggie.

3) Yeah, I'm stubborn, I am going to try this bi-directionally; Outbound from Cell; Inbound to Cell.
Let me know if that makes sense. This is very interesting to me. I will be setting this up this weekend.

Coool. I'm VERY interested to see if this works out for you. I'm really into this kind of puzzle solving. Be sure to let us know how you make out!

MagicJake

P.S. I added some more findings about GroovyTel in my earlier post.

I really like the Computer USB#1 and Computer USB#2 configuration. It appears that anyone in my T-Mobile Family Plan could call into the T-Mobile cell being use as the ccc-ccc-cccc number and make calls (local and long distance) during the day out the hhh-hhh-hhhh number without using our valuable ANYTIME minutes (700 in our MyFavs Family Plan). However, if the person called wants to call back, the converter box will be call-forwarding to only one TTT-TTT-TTTT number via the ccc-ccc-cccc MJ connection. Are there any slick converter devices out there that can decipher which T-Mobile number should be called among the four numbers in our Family Plan. I believe I am wishing for the proverbial pie-in-the-sky solution.

Rooze

[Roozie]

In browsing the internet looking for some possible converters that are reasonably priced, I found this Grandstream Handytone - HT488 model that appears to have the necessary ports (FXS and FXO):

http://store.pbxeq.com/store/product.ph ... 260&page=1Grandstream

Does anyone have any knowledge of this particular product as to its use in being able to route calls through to the MJ and to receive calls back. From its description, it appears that it will do exactly that. For its current price, it looks pretty promising. Any thoughts on this product?

Rooze

[kingfisher1111]

All,
I have a question for all the experts.I have SPA 3102 .I have a MJnumber includde in myfaves plan that I can call unlimited free(incoming & outgoing).let that be my MJ number.
I call MJ number from cellphone and I dial it to one of my friend and he calls me back on the number which I call..
How to setup the same number(my MJ number) back on SPA 3102 so that I won't be charged for incoming ?
Thanks

[VaHam]

Ok some questions for you guys who have been playing with Xlink and the 3102.

I have both these units and I am trying to chain them so that the POTS wall jack (FXS) feeds into the Xlink-BTTN line in (FXO). Then the Xlink-BTTN handset out (FSX) feeds into the SPA-3102 line in jack (FXO) and finally connect my house phones to the SPA-3102 handset output (FXS). Is this is the way you guys are setting up your system????

With this configuration incoming calls from either a cell phone paired with the Xlink-BTTN or the POTS line would get fed to the SPA-3102 PSTN. When the call comes in from a paired cell phone the Xlink-BTTN passes the callerID name as "Xlink BT" and also passes the incoming actual caller's callerID phone number. If the call comes in via POTS then the callerID name would not be "Xlink BT" (unless the CallerID name was spoofed) and the caller's callerID phone number would still be passed as normal.

Now when placing out going calls thru the SPA-3102 PSTN line they would go out thru the Xlink-BTTN default output which is the to the POTS wall jack. To place a call out thru the SPA-3102 PSTN and have it sent out via one of the paired cell phones the cell phone line number either 1,2 or 3 and then a flash would have to be sent before the actual number is dialed.

I would like to be able to setup a dial plan to accept an incoming SIP line and auto dial a specific phone number only appending the # flash in front of the specific out going phone number. (digit 1 followed by a flash and then xxx.xxx.xxxx)

Does anyone know how to make the SPA-3102 do this ????

[kcmagicman]

The I solve this by using GrandCentral and have it call my phone.


Also I have tmobile for cell service and the favs I have my GrandCentral number set as one of the favs so ALL incomming calls are free.
Set up my tmobile voice mail to say call me on this new number. This works out vey well being I am under ground at work so my phone does not work.
Also I get sales calls from time to time I tell them can you calll back in 30 min. After that I use Grand Central block the number so no calls from them again.

[Bendle]

Set up my tmobile voice mail to say call me on this new number.

I do the same thing with GC and TMO my Faves.... nice aint it?

I will one-up you on your voicemail solution... in my phone I have changed the voicemail number it calls to my GC number. You can set those numbers in the network settings of the phone. There are four "conditions" to set if I recall completely.

So, I have also changed the BUSY, UNAVAILABLE and the NO RESPONSE numbers to my GC number. If someone calls and I am out of area or phone is off, it goes straight to GC. And check this out, which is sweet.... If somone calls my cell number direct and is NOT in myfaves, then I manually press reject/ignore the call coming in (set your phone to not auto answer), it then routes to grand central, and re-rings through grandcentral dispaying the CID of my GC..... if it rings 4 times and I dont answer it, it goes to GC voicemail.

[msiam]

Bendle, Oh yeah. that is a great idea.. Look Here everybody..We got a great new cool toy..nice entry, Bendle

[crackerjack]

Guys:

All you need to do is install Asterisk on a junker PC, add your MJ as inbound and outbound, set your MJ number as a fave, write a small dial plan to always use your MJ as the defaul caller-id for outbound calls and enjoy life. Works every time...

Never give your cell # out, just your MJ # which lives on your server, program Asterisk to give you DISA dial tone when you call from your cell, setup numerous system speed dials to use as shortcuts once you get second dial tone
Have Asterisk fwd all calls to your MJ number to your cell, using the MJ # on your faves list.

Caveats: your cell phone will always show your MJ # for incoming calls to your cell so dig a little deeper into Asterisk dial plans to create a 'talking caller-id' routine to speak the original caller-id when you answer the call.

You should be able to accomplish this within an hour if you know what you are doing..

Stop futzing around with half-baked hardware based solutions and gravitate to Asterisk, T-Mob will love you....

CrackerJack

[Bendle]

Guys:

All you need to do is install Asterisk on a junker PC, add your MJ as inbound and outbound, set your MJ number as a fave, write a small dial plan to always use your MJ as the defaul caller-id for outbound calls and enjoy life. Works every time...

Never give your cell # out, just your MJ # which lives on your server, program Asterisk to give you DISA dial tone when you call from your cell, setup numerous system speed dials to use as shortcuts once you get second dial tone
Have Asterisk fwd all calls to your MJ number to your cell, using the MJ # on your faves list.

Caveats: your cell phone will always show your MJ # for incoming calls to your cell so dig a little deeper into Asterisk dial plans to create a 'talking caller-id' routine to speak the original caller-id when you answer the call.

You should be able to accomplish this within an hour if you know what you are doing..

Stop futzing around with half-baked hardware based solutions and gravitate to Asterisk, T-Mob will love you....

CrackerJack

I am still trying to wrap my head around what you just said - I dont quite grasp Asterisk and the pros and cons of what you just said...
Maybe its the all the allergy meds making me me all kinds of stupid.

[dbarber]

Guys:

You should be able to accomplish this within an hour if you know what you are doing..

CrackerJack

And about three (3) years if you don't!
Not everyone has the necessary level of expertise to even consider such a complicated endeavor.


Donn

[emoci]

Here is my thoughts,

In order to use MJ remotely one needs two things:
1. The SIP details for MJ
2. A way to remotely access this SIP account (here's a guide http://scopezoom.com/guide6.htm )

A good read for a list of other options http://forum.voxalot.com/voxalot-genera ... -info.html

I realize step 1 is the perplexing one but there is some useful posts and members here (http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/walk ... 6-120.html) that could definitely help.....

[richardtaur]

Or you can use.... the following device along with your Magic Jack SIP info...

HandyTone HT503 ATA/IAD at HT503

HT503 has Hop-On/Hop-Off Calling future. You can connect the regular phone line to the FXO port. When you are away, you will dial your home phone number then switch to the VOIP then dial out the long distance call via your VOIP service.

[umanzor]

The question should be if there is a way to call from an external regular phone into a line that is connected to a computer with magicjack, and then dial from the magicjack.

Is that possible?

[stroths]

The question should be if there is a way to call from an external regular phone into a line that is connected to a computer with magicjack, and then dial from the magicjack.

Is that possible?

Could probably do it with Asterisk. Here is one of the many distros out for it.

http://www.askozia.com/pbx/

[mutedmajority]

Hey yeah, how to make it work from my trash can. That's where mine belongs

[emoci]

Here is a little guide on how to use it remotely: http://scopezoom.com/guide11.htm

Please note you'll need to know your SIP Details before doing this...

Once done the actual USB Stick becomes useless until the next SIP Password issue comes up

[jose.miami]

Approximately 11% of US telephones, including mobile numbers and land lines from carriers such as Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile, etc., are connected via VoIP. Working with telecom partners we are now making it possible to dial these numbers without going through the traditional phone system.

This means you can call certain mobile and land line numbers from any computer connected to the net and talk for free. Because these calls are bypassing the traditional phone network entirely there is no per minute fee or other charge for the caller regardless of where they call from.
[From Gizmo5 - Backdoor dialing]

Excellent, Receive calls from anyone in the in the planet.
My phone is one of the lucky one with a back door dialing.

IT IS FREE.

PAP2T setup

SIP Tab:
Substitute VIA Addr: YES
STUN Enable: YES
STUN Server: stun01.sipphone.com
NAT Keep Alive Intvl: 15

LineX Tab: (where X is the 1 or 2 depending on where you have Gizmo setup)
Line Enable: YES
NAT Mapping Enable: YES
NAT Keep Alive Enable: YES
SIP Port: 5060 (if Line1) or 5061 (if Line2)
Proxy: proxy01.sipphone.com
Use Outbound Proxy: NO
Outbound Proxy: keep blank
Use OB Proxy In Dialog: NO
Register: YES
Register Expires: 3600
Use DNS SRV: NO
DNS SRV Auto Prefix: NO
Display Name: 1747xxxxxxx (Your Gizmo sip number)
User ID: 1747xxxxxxx (Your Gizmo sip number)
Password: (Your Gizmo password)
Use Auth ID: NO
Preferred Codec: G711u
Use Pref Codec Only: NO

For a PAP2T make sure you include this dialing plan.

(1747xxxxxxxS0|1800xxxxxxxS0|<:0101>1xxxxxxxxxxS0|<:0101>[2-9]xxxxxxxxxS0|*xx.|[3469]11|0|00|[2-9]xxxxxx|1xxx[2-9]xxxxxxS0|xxxxxxxxxxxx.|**x.)


Now with this plan you dont have to dial 0101 just dial the number.

By the way this have noting to do with MJ.

enjoy

[plexmaximus]

USE UltraVNC its FREE! and you can setup shortcut for instant access of Other computer.

[zmaddmattz]

if you have access to a computer that’s capable of running remote desktop connections, then surely its capable of running the magic jack dongle (Take it with you!)

[mythicninja]

Here's an idea remote in and start a three way call using the MJ softphone. For this I would use logmein.com

For example set it up to call you at a pay phone or hotel phone or someone elses home number you get the idea and then also call the person you want to speak with...(three way calling)

EDIT:: looks like no three way calling on the magicjack yet... Would have worked though initiating two calls from the MJ and conferencing them in... Maybe three way calling is coming soon...

[agutthon]

I have seen a utility and a piece of hardware that creates and account on skype on the machine that Acts as a gateway. The box connects to your computer USB port and has a connection for your telephone line. The person calls the VOIP Gateway account via Skype.. it answers the phone.. and you press "*" on your skype keypad.. it ask your for a pin number. then it ask you for the number you wish to call. Afterwards it calls the number and connects you. So I think that the person talking about using MagicJack Remotely.. is refering to something like that. Benefit.. is people over seas.. loved ones in developing countries can call family and friends.. using skype..

Thanks

[drmax]

"using MJ remotely"
Hello. I am new with MJ. I've read through most of this and things have changed since 2007, so revisiting and asking question my way.
Question:
I am at 1 location. I call my MJ home number. I enter some type of code, then I'm able to dial out from that MJ (home PC) to another number, as if I were at home. Is this possible? If so, is this what I need to study....?
http://scopezoom.com/guide11.htm
Thank you
PS. no remote desktop option for me