Exiting/closing magicJack; also uninstalling

jlieberman · Post by **jlieberman** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:32 am

Is there a way to elegantly exit (close) the magicJack application? The only way I have found is to go into the Windows Task Manager and manually end the magicJack process. So far this has not done any harm and has not lost any data. But it does not seem to be the best, certainly not the most elegant, practice. Is there a plan to add a Close or Exit function to MJ?

While we on the subject of ending magicJack, does anyone know how to Uninstall it? I am not planning to do so at this time, but I would like to know that it can be done properly. Here are some problems I see with uninstalling MJ:

- There is no uninstall routine with MJ program that I have seen. Have you?
- The default install location is under the Windows Documents and Settings directory, not in the Program Files directory
- The Windows Control Panel > Add or Remove Programs function does NOT list the main magicJack program as one that could be uninstalled!

Any suggestions? Does anyone know if MJ is working on a more standard way (or at least manual instructions) for removing MJ safely and properly?

Xen1969 · Post by **Xen1969** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 10:33 am

There is no way to do it now except tear it down bit by bit. There are other threads on this board that detail how to do this on your own. MagicJack has not provided a way.

Like everything else, Dan says that a way to uninstall is on the to do list.

Ever get the impression there were never any meetings at MagicJack to design the system out on paper ahead of time? More like... ON YOUR MARKS... GET SET... GO!!!! to 40-something Russian programmers.

What we get is what we see now. Obvious things like no way to exit the program, no way to uninstall, you know the rest.

HolmanGT · Post by **HolmanGT** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:54 pm

Xen1969,

I just hope the hardware designers had a little more foresight and left it open enough to deal with just about any changes that may need to be made. If they didn't some of us early birds may end up having to buy hardware version two to keep up with all the good stuff.

Don't know why that concerns me, it is the way I purchase all my D-Link routers. I try to stay just ahead of them and buy the latest version at least twenty four hours prior to them releasing a new hardware version.

Xen1969 · Post by **Xen1969** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:17 pm

HolmanGT wrote:If they didn't some of us early birds may end up having to buy hardware version two to keep up with all the good stuff.

This was one of my concerns when I bought my MagicJack back in December. I sort of expect to see a hardware version 2 at some point. Nothing to base it on besides my bad luck.

Of course I will probably be a sucker and buy one

If it worked and improved things a ton it would of course be worth the second purchase.

HolmanGT · Post by **HolmanGT** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:26 pm

Xen1969,

Don't feel bad I'll be in-line right behind you.

If more toys is good then better toys are better. I have no idea what that means but one Geek to another it will probably be subliminally understandable.

PS - If we don't stop admitting in public that we would pay more, Dan is going to get wise and take us literally or is that just "Take us".

couch-potato · Post by **couch-potato** » Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:22 am

Go to Menu > Advanced Users > check "minimize to tray"

Minimize MagicJack and it goes to the taskbar at the bottom right of the screen.

I just got my MagicJack an hour ago. So I apologize if you were already knew this and were looking for a way to make it exit the taskbar entirely.

There is also several posts in the other discussion group, "tips, tricks, and hacks" that tell you how to disable the MagicJack softphone and use a different one, or install MagicJack under a different user profile and have it run as a service in the bakcground.

sbw07 · Post by **sbw07** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 10:23 am

Disabling all skins by renaming the big.skn & small.skn files in the mjusbsp folder (to whatever name you choose), makes the softphone appear in a different interface which has an "X" button [s]to close down mj[/s] TO FOOL YOU INTO THINKING IT WILL SHUTDOWN MJ. All it actually does is minimize.

fsu1991 · Post by **fsu1991** » Wed Mar 05, 2008 8:10 pm

I created a batch file with two commands in it as follows:
tskill magicjack
tskill callerIDSpoof

Save the file as closemagicjack.bat and create a shortcut to it on your desktop.
Click on the shortcut and it closes both MagicJack and CallerIDSpoofer (if you use it) just as if you used Task Manager.
It will leave the icons for both programs in your taskbar, but running your mouse over them causes them to disappear.

sbw07 · Post by **sbw07** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 7:07 am

fsu1991 wrote:I created a batch file with two commands in it as follows:
tskill magicjack
tskill callerIDSpoof

Save the file as closemagicjack.bat and create a shortcut to it on your desktop.
Click on the shortcut and it closes both MagicJack and CallerIDSpoofer (if you use it) just as if you used Task Manager.
It will leave the icons for both programs in your taskbar, but running your mouse over them causes them to disappear.

That command won't work in Vista. However, you can use the following:

Code: Select all

taskkill /IM magicjack.exe
taskkill /IM callerIDspoof.exe

see here for more details.

MagicJackInSac · Post by **MagicJackInSac** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 1:36 pm

sbw07 wrote:Disabling all skins by renaming the big.skn & small.skn files in the mjusbsp folder (to whatever name you choose), makes the softphone appear in a different interface which has an "X" button to close down mj.

Where do you find the mjusbp folder? I am running vista also and did a search of my entire computer, but cannot find that folder. Also, do you have a screenshot by chance of what the different interface looks like?

HolmanGT · Post by **HolmanGT** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 5:11 pm

In Vista it lives here:

C:\Users\Bubba\AppData\Roaming\mjusbsp

Bubba = your account name.

sbw07 · Post by **sbw07** » Sun Mar 16, 2008 9:34 pm

MagicJackInSac wrote:Where do you find the mjusbp folder? I am running vista also and did a search of my entire computer, but cannot find that folder. Also, do you have a screenshot by chance of what the different interface looks like?

Holman gave the Vista location, and here's the XP location:

C:\Documents and Settings\Bubba\Application Data\mjusbsp

Bubba= your account name

If you did a search and it didn't come up, that's probably bec. AppData and Application Data are Hidden folders and you are not set to display them. To do that, click "Tools" on the menu bar of any open Explorer window (My Computer, My Documents etc.,) then click "Folder Options", "View", and then "Show hidden Files and folders". Click OK and you should be able to access these folders.

And lastly here's the screenshot you asked for:

sbw07 · Post by **sbw07** » Mon Mar 17, 2008 5:03 pm

jlieberman wrote:While we on the subject of ending magicJack, does anyone know how to Uninstall it? I am not planning to do so at this time, but I would like to know that it can be done properly. Here are some problems I see with uninstalling MJ:

- There is no uninstall routine with MJ program that I have seen. Have you?
- The default install location is under the Windows Documents and Settings directory, not in the Program Files directory
- The Windows Control Panel > Add or Remove Programs function does NOT list the main magicJack program as one that could be uninstalled!

Any suggestions? Does anyone know if MJ is working on a more standard way (or at least manual instructions) for removing MJ safely and properly?

Digital Nomads has a post detailing how to get rid of all the installed software

dbarber · Post by **dbarber** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 2:35 pm

fsu1991 wrote:I created a batch file with two commands in it as follows:
tskill magicjack
tskill callerIDSpoof

Save the file as closemagicjack.bat and create a shortcut to it on your desktop.
Click on the shortcut and it closes both MagicJack and CallerIDSpoofer (if you use it) just as if you used Task Manager.
It will leave the icons for both programs in your taskbar, but running your mouse over them causes them to disappear.

For those of you too lazy to create an icon for "closemagicjack.bat", I have created one (boy am I bored today

). I'm not sure how to upload it here, since it's a .ico file. If you're interested, let me know.

Donn

sbw07 · Post by **sbw07** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 6:21 pm

dbarber wrote:For those of you too lazy to create an icon for "closemagicjack.bat", I have created one (boy am I bored today ). I'm not sure how to upload it here, since it's a .ico file. If you're interested, let me know.

Donn

Hey Donn, I was just trying to create one myself! Upload it to tribal online and post the download link.

dbarber · Post by **dbarber** » Tue Mar 18, 2008 7:47 pm

sbw07 wrote: Hey Donn, I was just trying to create one myself! Upload it to tribal online and post the download link.

Here is the link: http://files.tribalonline.net/unMJ_ico69 . It's nothing too fancy. Enjoy!

Donn

fortyluv · Post by **fortyluv** » Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:02 pm

Just for a change of pace. First of all I'm in my seventies and clueless with computers and internets. I suppose that is why it seems fine to me. Ignorance is bliss and all that. lol BUT. I purchased and installed MJ August '07 and the wife and I love it.
But I do have one request for those in charge. Could you make MJ compatible with Linux? Then it would be perfect. At least for us.

Thank You.

TopCut · Post by **TopCut** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 10:06 am

Seems like you guys are making MJ harder than it needs to be.........I don't care where it lives..I don ;t care how to uninstall it.etc.etc....It works fine and has from the get go..I have a ST. Louis number and I live in Illinois and I don;t care if I ever get ported....I call all over the country for about $1.60 a month..My real phone is Vonage 14.99 a month..So I have 6 phones, 2 numbers for about 16.50 a month...cheapest phone service I have ever had...What else could you ask for?????
I LOVE THIS MAGICJACK THINGIE.......!!!!!!!!!!!!! DAN FOR PRESIDENT..!!!!
Running Vista Home premium with SP1

kcowan · Post by **kcowan** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 1:35 pm

So is the reason I want to shut down the MJ app so I can hibernate without unplugging? If so then how do I start it up without plugging?

Is there any place where all these tools are collected? I just got it yesterday and am on a steep learning curve for anything fancy.

gary · Post by **gary** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:01 pm

Instead of unplugging the MJ, 'Log Off' your account and then the PC/Laptop will hibernate.

When you power back on, you will have to double-click the MJ icon on the desktop to get it going.

HolmanGT · Post by **HolmanGT** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:11 pm

kcowan,

You can also left click on the "safely remove hardware" icon in the system tray. You will see something like safely remove device ( E, F ). The Magicjack show as two device together. The example is mine drive letters E & F your maybe anything but it will be the only item with two drive letters.

Select the one with two drive letters and give it a second and it will shut down you MJ safely. To restart it just double click the desktop icon.

I just discovered this the other day, I am really surprised that some of the Gurus on here have not caught this one - it's like shooting fish in a barrel.

TopCut · Post by **TopCut** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:12 pm

gary wrote:Instead of unplugging the MJ, 'Log Off' your account and then the PC/Laptop will hibernate.

When you power back on, you will have to double-click the MJ icon on the desktop to get it going.

Gary...you can pin MJ to your start-up menu....that way you will not have to start it every time you get on line...just right click the MJ icon...will show you all the options and the files for MJ
Topcut

gary · Post by **gary** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 5:40 pm

Thanks for your insight TopCut! That is exactly the way I have it setup and it works great.

kcowan · Post by **kcowan** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:05 pm

So I have these special procedures and
1) Kill does not work - still using c-a-d
2) Startup loads the original fake address book with test and 9999999999. Whereas plugging and unplugging loaded it no problem, But had some other serious problems...

How bad can I be?

HolmanGT · Post by **HolmanGT** » Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:14 pm

kcowan,

I don't know what your talking about with the 99999999999 stuff.

To terminate MJ just go to the safely remove hardware icon left click and select the only item that shows as one item with two drives associated with it.

kcowan · Post by **kcowan** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:31 am

HolmanGT wrote:kcowan,

I don't know what your talking about with the 99999999999 stuff.

To terminate MJ just go to the safely remove hardware icon left click and select the only item that shows as one item with two drives associated with it.

The delivered MJ has only one item in the address book and it is
test 9999999999
which is the only item in my address book rather than my imported set that I put into G:\AddressBook.xml

Stewart · Post by **Stewart** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 8:04 am

kcowan wrote:... rather than my imported set that I put into G:\AddressBook.xml

Should be G:\magicJack\AddressBook.xml

HolmanGT · Post by **HolmanGT** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:55 am

kcowan wrote:
HolmanGT wrote:kcowan,

I don't know what your talking about with the 99999999999 stuff.

To terminate MJ just go to the safely remove hardware icon left click and select the only item that shows as one item with two drives associated with it.
The delivered MJ has only one item in the address book and it is
test 9999999999
which is the only item in my address book rather than my imported set that I put into G:\AddressBook.xml

kcowan,

OK - you guys are trying to gas-light me. Two things and this is probably my fault for coming in on the tail end of a thread. By delivered you me the way it comes from the factory? Mine never had any such number in-place

My second issue is I have posted the use "Safely remove hardware" button as a method of shutting down MJ. It seem to do a clean job and (cough) because it is M$'s norm shut down for USB devices I assume they do it correctly. (yes, yes I know what the hell does M$ know but it does work) It is not an ego thing but no one has even commented on it as being a viable method and you don't have to create anything. Is there something wrong with that method or are you guys just trying to hurt my feelings (just joking). But I am curious why no one thinks it is an OK method and I assume that due to the lack of comments on using that procedure.

kcowan · Post by **kcowan** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 2:08 pm

HolmanGT wrote:
kcowan wrote:
HolmanGT wrote:kcowan,

I don't know what your talking about with the 99999999999 stuff.

To terminate MJ just go to the safely remove hardware icon left click and select the only item that shows as one item with two drives associated with it.
The delivered MJ has only one item in the address book and it is
test 9999999999
which is the only item in my address book rather than my imported set that I put into G:\AddressBook.xml
kcowan,

OK - you guys are trying to gas-light me. Two things and this is probably my fault for coming in on the tail end of a thread. By delivered you me the way it comes from the factory? Mine never had any such number in-place

My second issue is I have posted the use "Safely remove hardware" button as a method of shutting down MJ. It seem to do a clean job and (cough) because it is M$'s norm shut down for USB devices I assume they do it correctly. (yes, yes I know what the hell does M$ know but it does work) It is not an ego thing but no one has even commented on it as being a viable method and you don't have to create anything. Is there something wrong with that method or are you guys just trying to hurt my feelings (just joking). But I am curious why no one thinks it is an OK method and I assume that due to the lack of comments on using that procedure.

I think both methods work. I use c-a-d and end process because taskkill is not working for me.

But loader does not load my custom phone numbers in G:\magicJack\AddressBook.xml and I have no fix for that.

antoinefinch · Post by **antoinefinch** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:33 pm

revo
it finds and uninstalls just about everything and clears all hidden registry entries,you will be surprised at what it will show installed on your pc

kcowan · Post by **kcowan** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:26 pm

kcowan wrote:But loader does not load my custom phone numbers in G:\magicJack\AddressBook.xml and I have no fix for that.

Got that problem fixed. It was a syntax error that developed with a subsequent release after the original hack was published.

tradertx · Post by **tradertx** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:57 am

Is it possible that a Windows freebie download like this

http://simpleuninstaller.com/

might provide an easy uninstall solution? Anybody know?

lonestarmagic · Post by **lonestarmagic** » Sat Jun 28, 2008 10:12 am

tradertx wrote:Is it possible that a Windows freebie download like this

http://simpleuninstaller.com/

might provide an easy uninstall solution? Anybody know?

I downloaded and installed that pgm, but don't see anything listed for deleting the MJ software....could be useful app for other pgm deletions though.

roid · Post by **roid** » Sun Aug 24, 2008 6:12 pm

Personally, I use a macro to close it down. Desktop icon is my choice but you could just as easily bind the macro to a hotkey combo.

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