ATA MAJICJACK COMING SOON
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ATA MAJICJACK COMING SOON
I read all the forums but no offical date when magicjack ATA is expected.Anyone who can answer when Don is bringing the ATA magicjack.
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Re: ATA MAJICJACK COMING SOON
You need to cite some credible references; otherwise you're just starting rumors.banaa007 wrote:I read all the forums but no offical date when magicjack ATA is expected.Anyone who can answer when Don is bringing the ATA magicjack.
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Re: ATA MAJICJACK COMING SOON
From the information that I obtained, ATA capabilities may be available soon. However there will be a charge (because the advertisements can't be on an ATA to subsidize the service).Bendle wrote:You need to cite some credible references; otherwise you're just starting rumors.banaa007 wrote:I read all the forums but no offical date when magicjack ATA is expected.Anyone who can answer when Don is bringing the ATA magicjack.
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Presumably the additional fee may be $60.00 per year, but that should include service for 2 numbers.
That should still be a good price. About $7.00 per month (including the $19.95 annual licencing fee). Unlimited incoming and outgoing. No need to keep the computer on. No need to give some company $199.99 up front (like Sunrocket-Teleblend).
I also heard that name capability on caller-id may also be available.
The data is not set in stone. We just have to wait for a while longer for availibility.
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r187342 ... ~start=200
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What's This ATA?
Okay, ATA can stand for different things, obviously. What is this ATA you guys keep referring to without first introducing it?
So far the only advertising seems to be by MJ itself, for its 5-year plan. (Does anyone know if that's because they can't find advertisers, or because they're currently focused on raising quick cash for expansion?) I think a bigger issue is that minutes/month for an ATA would probably be much higher than for a softphone.wipeout97 wrote:Are we sure this is legit? The whole point behind magicjack was never to be ata based since direct market advertising was supposed to support the systems lower income from consumer sales?
Edit: MaxxFordham: ATA = Analog Telephone Adapter
My guess is that MJ doesn't yet need the money that advertising can bring, and that they haven't yet gotten their heads together to figure out how much to charge and what promises to offer for outside advertisers.
p.s. ATA has only one definition in the context of VoIP services. A simple use of the Search button will get the answer much quicker than asking a separate question.
p.s. ATA has only one definition in the context of VoIP services. A simple use of the Search button will get the answer much quicker than asking a separate question.
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No, MBerlant, you're WRONG, because I already DID use the search function and found out how many different kinds of ATA there are!mberlant wrote:p.s. ATA has only one definition in the context of VoIP services. A simple use of the Search button will get the answer much quicker than asking a separate question.
(I didn't think to include "VoIP" with it, but just searching for ATA alone doesn't really show what it has to do with this.)
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Already IS ATA!
If "ATA" here means "analog telephone adapter," then why do you guys keep talking about it as if it's on the wishlist? The magicJack already IS an ATA, is it not? You plug that little digital block into a computer (which is obviously digital, too), and you plug an analog phone into its other end! There you go, an analog telephone adapter! So what's the deal?
Well, you need to continue your research. As you do, both here and in the outside world, you will learn the nomenclature of the industry to which you aspire. You will learn, for example, that an ATA defines the entire device, from RJ socket to ethernet connector. That means that your MJ dongle plus your hosting PC plus the softphone running on the PC add up to make a single ATA. Folks here are enjoying the benefit of replacing that hodgepodge with a purpose-made ATA. When you read enough about the technologies involved (or, pay someone to teach you in a classroom) you too will be ready to pursue this option.
Also, as you will learn by reading the discussions already here in the forum, the Wish List part of the conversation relates to MJ having dropped some hints about a year ago that they would be introducing an MJ-branded ATA. This never materialized, as I learned when I was a newbie here, from reading this very thread.
Also, as you will learn by reading the discussions already here in the forum, the Wish List part of the conversation relates to MJ having dropped some hints about a year ago that they would be introducing an MJ-branded ATA. This never materialized, as I learned when I was a newbie here, from reading this very thread.
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I tried searching for "ATA" myself using the site's Search function, and it's not terribly helpful.
http://www.quickstartvoip.com/glossary.html
http://www.quickstartvoip.com/glossary.html
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Hey, Mberlant, thanks for your apology. But no, I'm not really that ignorant of what others have been saying. Okay, well, maybe a little, since I haven't read every single comment in every single thread here, but not enough to just flat-out say that I was being ignorant of those things.
And you're wrong about my not reading a subject before responding to it. I read all the comments in this thread before responding to it. I also did that with most of the others I responded to, too.
Thanks for your comment, Robatino.
And you're wrong about my not reading a subject before responding to it. I read all the comments in this thread before responding to it. I also did that with most of the others I responded to, too.
Thanks for your comment, Robatino.
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It appears that site is just pre-configuring ATAs with MJ credentials, for an additional price. As pageman states, that is not an official MJ product, and most probably violates the MJ terms of service. Just like if you put your MJ credentials in an ATA device your self to use with MJ. Whether or not MJ ever comes through with anything they have hinted about (Canadian #s, ATAs, self initiated 3-way calling, etc, etc) is up in the air, but I wouldn't hold my breath about any of their claims for the future. There is plenty of info on this site about configuring unlocked ATAs to work with MJ.
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ATA Tutorial was very helpful. Thx
Well Said.
MaxxFordham wrote:Hey, Mberlant, thanks for your apology. But no, I'm not really that ignorant of what others have been saying. Okay, well, maybe a little, since I haven't read every single comment in every single thread here, but not enough to just flat-out say that I was being ignorant of those things.
And you're wrong about my not reading a subject before responding to it. I read all the comments in this thread before responding to it. I also did that with most of the others I responded to, too.
Thanks for your comment, Robatino.
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+1MaxxFordham wrote:Hey, Mberlant, thanks for your apology. But no, I'm not really that ignorant of what others have been saying. Okay, well, maybe a little, since I haven't read every single comment in every single thread here, but not enough to just flat-out say that I was being ignorant of those things.
And you're wrong about my not reading a subject before responding to it. I read all the comments in this thread before responding to it. I also did that with most of the others I responded to, too.
Thanks for your comment, Robatino.
Well said , Sir.
ATA comming soon?
I had already voted in 4 different elections since I bought my MJ. May08, Nov08, May 09, Nov 09
Stand alone ATA service is still not offered.
MJ does not need advertising for revenue, and neither does TK6000 or Ooma. Ooma receives revenue from tariffs with incoming calls and premium* services.
Voxox is a penny a minute (or $2.45 monthly for unlimited) and the phone number is the user ID for ATA devices.
It is now time for Dan to send a message to the MJ application window, that customers who wish to use Magicjack service with their own equipment may do so, but no guaranty of quality with foreign equipment. There would be no assistance whatsoever in setting up foreign equipment, with the exception of SIP settings on the customer's "My Magicjack" page.
At the very least, Call forwarding should have the option of simultaneous ring with the Majicjack, before the next election.
Stand alone ATA service is still not offered.
MJ does not need advertising for revenue, and neither does TK6000 or Ooma. Ooma receives revenue from tariffs with incoming calls and premium* services.
Voxox is a penny a minute (or $2.45 monthly for unlimited) and the phone number is the user ID for ATA devices.
It is now time for Dan to send a message to the MJ application window, that customers who wish to use Magicjack service with their own equipment may do so, but no guaranty of quality with foreign equipment. There would be no assistance whatsoever in setting up foreign equipment, with the exception of SIP settings on the customer's "My Magicjack" page.
At the very least, Call forwarding should have the option of simultaneous ring with the Majicjack, before the next election.
Re: ATA comming soon?
Elections?solearth wrote:I had already voted in 4 different elections since I bought my MJ. May08, Nov08, May 09, Nov 09
What's this all about?
I don't know why they want to prevent this since the MJ software can't be used as a reliable ad revenue source. The MJ software doesn't have any advertising running on the soft-phone, and even if they were running ads, anyone using their MJ device on a second computer never sees the ads. Even if the MJ is on their primary computer, I would think most people just click past the software window ignoring the ads anyway.Stand alone ATA service is still not offered.
I agree, it's time for MJ to offer basic ATA service, either through a pre-configured device for a reasonable price, or third-party devices.
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"Elections?
What's this all about? "
Generally, if something is happening soon, it happens before the next political election (else it is not soon, bit great in the distance of time). 4 elections ago, something was going to happen soon, but has yet to be.
I have had a Magicjack for almost 2 years, based on possible ATA support. I am debating on whether to renew my subscription since my primary purpose of subscribing is non existent.
What's this all about? "
Generally, if something is happening soon, it happens before the next political election (else it is not soon, bit great in the distance of time). 4 elections ago, something was going to happen soon, but has yet to be.
I have had a Magicjack for almost 2 years, based on possible ATA support. I am debating on whether to renew my subscription since my primary purpose of subscribing is non existent.
New features
I received an email from Dan because I asked if ATA was "off the table". He said no. He also stated that soon the flash memory would not be necessary. What is kept in the flash of the dongle, would be maintained on their servers.
Standalone devices should be ready by the end of the year.
I do not know if MJ will become more like Voxox, TK6000, or something completely different.
Is the new unit being released just prior to Christmas to capitalize in the Christmas rush? I don't know.
If ATA protocols are available without having to purchase a new standalone unit, MJ could crush TK6000 before it can get a foothold.
Perhaps it took TK6000 going on the market for MJ to work on a standalone unit themselves. I love competition, and what it does for consumers. If the old boys don't lower their prices for their network, they will have to die off.
Standalone devices should be ready by the end of the year.
I do not know if MJ will become more like Voxox, TK6000, or something completely different.
Is the new unit being released just prior to Christmas to capitalize in the Christmas rush? I don't know.
If ATA protocols are available without having to purchase a new standalone unit, MJ could crush TK6000 before it can get a foothold.
Perhaps it took TK6000 going on the market for MJ to work on a standalone unit themselves. I love competition, and what it does for consumers. If the old boys don't lower their prices for their network, they will have to die off.
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Re: New features
I hope your right and MJ dose come up with a stand alone unit or just give access to SIP to us our own ATA. Right now I'm using a old clunker laptop to run my Magic Jack. Would love to free that laptop up to configure as a NAS for my network.solearth wrote:I received an email from Dan because I asked if ATA was "off the table". He said no. He also stated that soon the flash memory would not be necessary. What is kept in the flash of the dongle, would be maintained on their servers.
Standalone devices should be ready by the end of the year.
I do not know if MJ will become more like Voxox, TK6000, or something completely different.
Is the new unit being released just prior to Christmas to capitalize in the Christmas rush? I don't know.
If ATA protocols are available without having to purchase a new standalone unit, MJ could crush TK6000 before it can get a foothold.
Perhaps it took TK6000 going on the market for MJ to work on a standalone unit themselves. I love competition, and what it does for consumers. If the old boys don't lower their prices for their network, they will have to die off.
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with the NetTalk TK6000 (visit www.tk6000.com or www.nettalk.com ) you can either plug it into a computer's USB (for portability) or plug it directly into a router (for operation without a PC or ThinClient). The $100 cost covers you for a lifetime, with no annual bills at all. Anyone want my MJ for dirt cheap? It has 4 years of time left on it and the # can still be changed for free. Just PM me.
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NO ATA OR COMPUTER NEEDED !!!
With the NetTalk TK6000 (visit www.tk6000.com or www.nettalk.com ) you can either plug it into a computer's USB (for portability) or plug it directly into a router (for operation without a PC or ThinClient). The $100 cost covers you for a lifetime, with no annual bills at all. Anyone want my MJ for dirt cheap? It has 4 years of time left on it and the # can still be changed for free. Just PM me.
With the NetTalk TK6000 (visit www.tk6000.com or www.nettalk.com ) you can either plug it into a computer's USB (for portability) or plug it directly into a router (for operation without a PC or ThinClient). The $100 cost covers you for a lifetime, with no annual bills at all. Anyone want my MJ for dirt cheap? It has 4 years of time left on it and the # can still be changed for free. Just PM me.
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No Need for an ATA with a TK6000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIolkCWIzKU&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIolkCWIzKU&NR=1
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At risk of continuing an OT thread...but since it directly relates to your post...laserjobs wrote:I would love to try a TK6000 but $100 is too much for an initial outlay
You get a 30 money back guarantee from the date the TK6K is shipped (not the day of the purchase). As a bonus of being able to deal with real customer service, many have users have successfully requested and received extended trial periods in order to get a better feel for the service. This was done when they were nearing the end of the 30 day period.
The TK6K has made strides but it is not quite at the level of MJ just yet.
The biggest problem i have with my TK6K is that it goes dead without notice, unless u check it or someone notifies you, you would have no idea that it is not working. this phenomenon is famously known as "keep alive" on the TK forum.
I am still willing to give the TK6K a try, but that is because i have MJ/TC setup that works flawlessly.
The TK6K even though works through the router, doesnt always play nice with all routers, you may have to fork out more dollars for a new router.
i guess same can be said for MJ in the form of putting it on a thin client.
The biggest problem i have with my TK6K is that it goes dead without notice, unless u check it or someone notifies you, you would have no idea that it is not working. this phenomenon is famously known as "keep alive" on the TK forum.
I am still willing to give the TK6K a try, but that is because i have MJ/TC setup that works flawlessly.
The TK6K even though works through the router, doesnt always play nice with all routers, you may have to fork out more dollars for a new router.
i guess same can be said for MJ in the form of putting it on a thin client.
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On December 30, 2010, VocalTec (parent company of MJ) filed a form 6-K with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In the section entitled "Description of Business", it mentions "a standalone product that has its own CPU that can plug into a regular phone without using a computer."
Huh? Sounds like an ATA to me. There was no indication that I found as to when this product will be available.
Does anyone have any further recent information on this?
Reference:
http://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1005 ... xv99wb.htm
Page 1 - Description of Business
Huh? Sounds like an ATA to me. There was no indication that I found as to when this product will be available.
Does anyone have any further recent information on this?
Reference:
http://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1005 ... xv99wb.htm
Page 1 - Description of Business
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Bill Smith wrote:On December 30, 2010, VocalTec (parent company of MJ) filed a form 6-K with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In the section entitled "Description of Business", it mentions "a standalone product that has its own CPU that can plug into a regular phone without using a computer."
Huh? Sounds like an ATA to me. There was no indication that I found as to when this product will be available.
Does anyone have any further recent information on this?
Reference:
http://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1005 ... xv99wb.htm
Page 1 - Description of Business
Don't hold your breath as MagicJack is slow in doing everything almost, And in the event they do come out with a ATA it would be in the league of the netTalk Duo aka " Another prioritairy Device" aka Dell, HP, netTalk Duo etc. Nothing like the real thing baby
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It may be an old thread but my post was timely. See today's announcement:
http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/magi ... 1-f19.html
Will they deliver? Stay tuned.
http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/magi ... 1-f19.html
Will they deliver? Stay tuned.