ATA MAJICJACK COMING SOON

banaa007 · Post by **banaa007** » Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:31 pm

I read all the forums but no offical date when magicjack ATA is expected.Anyone who can answer when Don is bringing the ATA magicjack.

banaa007

wipeout97 · Post by **wipeout97** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:37 pm

Are we sure this is legit? The whole point behind magicjack was never to be ata based since direct market advertising was supposed to support the systems lower income from consumer sales?

Bendle · Post by **Bendle** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:10 pm

banaa007 wrote:I read all the forums but no offical date when magicjack ATA is expected.Anyone who can answer when Don is bringing the ATA magicjack.

banaa007

You need to cite some credible references; otherwise you're just starting rumors.

gooney · Post by **gooney** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:13 pm

here it is

http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/magicjack-byod-available-t977.html

banaa007 · Post by **banaa007** » Tue Apr 01, 2008 11:00 pm

Bendle wrote:
banaa007 wrote:I read all the forums but no offical date when magicjack ATA is expected.Anyone who can answer when Don is bringing the ATA magicjack.

banaa007
You need to cite some credible references; otherwise you're just starting rumors.

From the information that I obtained, ATA capabilities may be available soon. However there will be a charge (because the advertisements can't be on an ATA to subsidize the service).
Presumably the additional fee may be $60.00 per year, but that should include service for 2 numbers.
That should still be a good price. About $7.00 per month (including the $19.95 annual licencing fee). Unlimited incoming and outgoing. No need to keep the computer on. No need to give some company $199.99 up front (like Sunrocket-Teleblend).
I also heard that name capability on caller-id may also be available.
The data is not set in stone. We just have to wait for a while longer for availibility.

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r187342 ... ~start=200

MaxxFordham · Post by **MaxxFordham** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:52 pm

Okay, ATA can stand for different things, obviously. What is this ATA you guys keep referring to without first introducing it?

robatino · Post by **robatino** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 7:28 pm

wipeout97 wrote:Are we sure this is legit? The whole point behind magicjack was never to be ata based since direct market advertising was supposed to support the systems lower income from consumer sales?

So far the only advertising seems to be by MJ itself, for its 5-year plan. (Does anyone know if that's because they can't find advertisers, or because they're currently focused on raising quick cash for expansion?) I think a bigger issue is that minutes/month for an ATA would probably be much higher than for a softphone.

Edit: MaxxFordham: ATA = Analog Telephone Adapter

mberlant · Post by **mberlant** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:36 pm

My guess is that MJ doesn't yet need the money that advertising can bring, and that they haven't yet gotten their heads together to figure out how much to charge and what promises to offer for outside advertisers.

p.s. ATA has only one definition in the context of VoIP services. A simple use of the Search button will get the answer much quicker than asking a separate question.

MaxxFordham · Post by **MaxxFordham** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:25 pm

mberlant wrote:p.s. ATA has only one definition in the context of VoIP services. A simple use of the Search button will get the answer much quicker than asking a separate question.

No, MBerlant, you're WRONG, because I already DID use the search function and found out how many different kinds of ATA there are!
(I didn't think to include "VoIP" with it, but just searching for ATA alone doesn't really show what it has to do with this.)

MaxxFordham · Post by **MaxxFordham** » Thu Apr 16, 2009 10:28 pm

If "ATA" here means "analog telephone adapter," then why do you guys keep talking about it as if it's on the wishlist? The magicJack already IS an ATA, is it not? You plug that little digital block into a computer (which is obviously digital, too), and you plug an analog phone into its other end! There you go, an analog telephone adapter! So what's the deal?

mberlant · Post by **mberlant** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:33 am

Well, you need to continue your research. As you do, both here and in the outside world, you will learn the nomenclature of the industry to which you aspire. You will learn, for example, that an ATA defines the entire device, from RJ socket to ethernet connector. That means that your MJ dongle plus your hosting PC plus the softphone running on the PC add up to make a single ATA. Folks here are enjoying the benefit of replacing that hodgepodge with a purpose-made ATA. When you read enough about the technologies involved (or, pay someone to teach you in a classroom) you too will be ready to pursue this option.

Also, as you will learn by reading the discussions already here in the forum, the Wish List part of the conversation relates to MJ having dropped some hints about a year ago that they would be introducing an MJ-branded ATA. This never materialized, as I learned when I was a newbie here, from reading this very thread.

MaxxFordham · Post by **MaxxFordham** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:19 am

Hey, Berlant, I never said this was an industry that I aspired to. Will you stop talking down to me like I'm some kind of stupid idiot? If you keep that up, then it's really you who are the idiot that needs to be talked down to.

A simple, friendly, NON-RUDE explanation is all that's needed.

mberlant · Post by **mberlant** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 5:37 am

I apologize for misunderstanding you. Your comments in this and other threads are ignorant of discussions that have already taken place on this forum, and you have not yet taken the hint to read a topic before posting to it. So, how shall we proceed from here?

robatino · Post by **robatino** » Fri Apr 17, 2009 10:28 am

I tried searching for "ATA" myself using the site's Search function, and it's not terribly helpful.

http://www.quickstartvoip.com/glossary.html

MaxxFordham · Post by **MaxxFordham** » Sat Apr 18, 2009 6:03 pm

Hey, Mberlant, thanks for your apology. But no, I'm not really that ignorant of what others have been saying. Okay, well, maybe a little, since I haven't read every single comment in every single thread here, but not enough to just flat-out say that I was being ignorant of those things.

And you're wrong about my not reading a subject before responding to it. I read all the comments in this thread before responding to it. I also did that with most of the others I responded to, too.

Thanks for your comment, Robatino.

fredo138 · Post by **fredo138** » Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:09 pm

more info form canada

http://www.do not trust - spammer/magicatabox.html

MaxxFordham · Post by **MaxxFordham** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:16 am

Whow, that looks like it could be pretty cool!

pagemen · Post by **pagemen** » Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:29 am

fredo138 wrote:more info form canada

http://www.do not trust - spammer/magicatabox.html

Completely BS, is it self-promotion? It's not an official MJ product, all the info. are already well documented and can be done oneself.

And, $139.95 upfront then $100/yr thereafter, wtf

Kif Kroker · Post by **Kif Kroker** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:14 am

It appears that site is just pre-configuring ATAs with MJ credentials, for an additional price. As pageman states, that is not an official MJ product, and most probably violates the MJ terms of service. Just like if you put your MJ credentials in an ATA device your self to use with MJ. Whether or not MJ ever comes through with anything they have hinted about (Canadian #s, ATAs, self initiated 3-way calling, etc, etc) is up in the air, but I wouldn't hold my breath about any of their claims for the future. There is plenty of info on this site about configuring unlocked ATAs to work with MJ.

altatension · Post by **altatension** » Tue Jul 07, 2009 8:48 pm

Well Said.

MaxxFordham wrote:Hey, Mberlant, thanks for your apology. But no, I'm not really that ignorant of what others have been saying. Okay, well, maybe a little, since I haven't read every single comment in every single thread here, but not enough to just flat-out say that I was being ignorant of those things.

And you're wrong about my not reading a subject before responding to it. I read all the comments in this thread before responding to it. I also did that with most of the others I responded to, too.

Thanks for your comment, Robatino.

didaboston · Post by **didaboston** » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:28 pm

MaxxFordham wrote:Hey, Mberlant, thanks for your apology. But no, I'm not really that ignorant of what others have been saying. Okay, well, maybe a little, since I haven't read every single comment in every single thread here, but not enough to just flat-out say that I was being ignorant of those things.

And you're wrong about my not reading a subject before responding to it. I read all the comments in this thread before responding to it. I also did that with most of the others I responded to, too.

Thanks for your comment, Robatino.

+1

Well said , Sir.

solearth · Post by **solearth** » Mon Nov 02, 2009 12:31 pm

I had already voted in 4 different elections since I bought my MJ. May08, Nov08, May 09, Nov 09
Stand alone ATA service is still not offered.
MJ does not need advertising for revenue, and neither does TK6000 or Ooma. Ooma receives revenue from tariffs with incoming calls and premium* services.
Voxox is a penny a minute (or $2.45 monthly for unlimited) and the phone number is the user ID for ATA devices.
It is now time for Dan to send a message to the MJ application window, that customers who wish to use Magicjack service with their own equipment may do so, but no guaranty of quality with foreign equipment. There would be no assistance whatsoever in setting up foreign equipment, with the exception of SIP settings on the customer's "My Magicjack" page.

At the very least, Call forwarding should have the option of simultaneous ring with the Majicjack, before the next election.

bfksc · Post by **bfksc** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:47 am

solearth wrote:I had already voted in 4 different elections since I bought my MJ. May08, Nov08, May 09, Nov 09

Elections?
What's this all about?

Stand alone ATA service is still not offered.

I don't know why they want to prevent this since the MJ software can't be used as a reliable ad revenue source. The MJ software doesn't have any advertising running on the soft-phone, and even if they were running ads, anyone using their MJ device on a second computer never sees the ads. Even if the MJ is on their primary computer, I would think most people just click past the software window ignoring the ads anyway.

I agree, it's time for MJ to offer basic ATA service, either through a pre-configured device for a reasonable price, or third-party devices.

solearth · Post by **solearth** » Wed Nov 25, 2009 5:44 pm

"Elections?
What's this all about? "

Generally, if something is happening soon, it happens before the next political election (else it is not soon, bit great in the distance of time). 4 elections ago, something was going to happen soon, but has yet to be.

I have had a Magicjack for almost 2 years, based on possible ATA support. I am debating on whether to renew my subscription since my primary purpose of subscribing is non existent.

solearth · Post by **solearth** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:08 pm

I received an email from Dan because I asked if ATA was "off the table". He said no. He also stated that soon the flash memory would not be necessary. What is kept in the flash of the dongle, would be maintained on their servers.
Standalone devices should be ready by the end of the year.

I do not know if MJ will become more like Voxox, TK6000, or something completely different.

Is the new unit being released just prior to Christmas to capitalize in the Christmas rush? I don't know.

If ATA protocols are available without having to purchase a new standalone unit, MJ could crush TK6000 before it can get a foothold.

Perhaps it took TK6000 going on the market for MJ to work on a standalone unit themselves. I love competition, and what it does for consumers. If the old boys don't lower their prices for their network, they will have to die off.

Robert121571 · Post by **Robert121571** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:24 pm

solearth wrote:I received an email from Dan because I asked if ATA was "off the table". He said no. He also stated that soon the flash memory would not be necessary. What is kept in the flash of the dongle, would be maintained on their servers.
Standalone devices should be ready by the end of the year.

I do not know if MJ will become more like Voxox, TK6000, or something completely different.

Is the new unit being released just prior to Christmas to capitalize in the Christmas rush? I don't know.

If ATA protocols are available without having to purchase a new standalone unit, MJ could crush TK6000 before it can get a foothold.

Perhaps it took TK6000 going on the market for MJ to work on a standalone unit themselves. I love competition, and what it does for consumers. If the old boys don't lower their prices for their network, they will have to die off.

I hope your right and MJ dose come up with a stand alone unit or just give access to SIP to us our own ATA. Right now I'm using a old clunker laptop to run my Magic Jack. Would love to free that laptop up to configure as a NAS for my network.

ThisIsMyUserName · Post by **ThisIsMyUserName** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:57 pm

with the NetTalk TK6000 (visit www.tk6000.com or www.nettalk.com ) you can either plug it into a computer's USB (for portability) or plug it directly into a router (for operation without a PC or ThinClient). The $100 cost covers you for a lifetime, with no annual bills at all. Anyone want my MJ for dirt cheap? It has 4 years of time left on it and the # can still be changed for free. Just PM me.

ThisIsMyUserName · Post by **ThisIsMyUserName** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:02 pm

NO ATA OR COMPUTER NEEDED !!!
With the NetTalk TK6000 (visit www.tk6000.com or www.nettalk.com ) you can either plug it into a computer's USB (for portability) or plug it directly into a router (for operation without a PC or ThinClient). The $100 cost covers you for a lifetime, with no annual bills at all. Anyone want my MJ for dirt cheap? It has 4 years of time left on it and the # can still be changed for free. Just PM me.

ThisIsMyUserName · Post by **ThisIsMyUserName** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:40 pm

No Need for an ATA with a TK6000
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIolkCWIzKU&NR=1

Nobody beats the Whiz! · Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:14 pm

I'm a fellow TK6000 owner, but I think your triple post is over doing it. Outright advertisements should be kept in the lounge.

Hint: You can edit your own posts. Look for the "Edit" button in the top right of your post. There's no need to reply to oneself.

Post by **laserjobs** » Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:22 pm

I would love to try a TK6000 but $100 is too much for an initial outlay

Nobody beats the Whiz! · Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:33 pm

laserjobs wrote:I would love to try a TK6000 but $100 is too much for an initial outlay

At risk of continuing an OT thread...but since it directly relates to your post...

You get a 30 money back guarantee from the date the TK6K is shipped (not the day of the purchase). As a bonus of being able to deal with real customer service, many have users have successfully requested and received extended trial periods in order to get a better feel for the service. This was done when they were nearing the end of the 30 day period.

kulumbaa · Post by **kulumbaa** » Mon Jan 18, 2010 4:04 am

The TK6K has made strides but it is not quite at the level of MJ just yet.

The biggest problem i have with my TK6K is that it goes dead without notice, unless u check it or someone notifies you, you would have no idea that it is not working. this phenomenon is famously known as "keep alive" on the TK forum.

I am still willing to give the TK6K a try, but that is because i have MJ/TC setup that works flawlessly.

The TK6K even though works through the router, doesnt always play nice with all routers, you may have to fork out more dollars for a new router.

i guess same can be said for MJ in the form of putting it on a thin client.

Bill Smith · Post by **Bill Smith** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:52 am

On December 30, 2010, VocalTec (parent company of MJ) filed a form 6-K with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In the section entitled "Description of Business", it mentions "a standalone product that has its own CPU that can plug into a regular phone without using a computer."

Huh? Sounds like an ATA to me. There was no indication that I found as to when this product will be available.

Does anyone have any further recent information on this?

Reference:

http://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1005 ... xv99wb.htm

Page 1 - Description of Business

gashliquor · Post by **gashliquor** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 11:40 am

Bill Smith wrote:On December 30, 2010, VocalTec (parent company of MJ) filed a form 6-K with the Securities and Exchange Commission. In the section entitled "Description of Business", it mentions "a standalone product that has its own CPU that can plug into a regular phone without using a computer."

Huh? Sounds like an ATA to me. There was no indication that I found as to when this product will be available.

Does anyone have any further recent information on this?

Reference:

http://sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1005 ... xv99wb.htm

Page 1 - Description of Business

Don't hold your breath as MagicJack is slow in doing everything almost, And in the event they do come out with a ATA it would be in the league of the netTalk Duo aka " Another prioritairy Device" aka Dell, HP, netTalk Duo etc. Nothing like the real thing baby

neo2121 · Post by **neo2121** » Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:20 pm

wow talk about raising an old thread from the dead

Bill Smith · Post by **Bill Smith** » Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:14 pm

It may be an old thread but my post was timely. See today's announcement:

http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/magi ... 1-f19.html

Will they deliver? Stay tuned.

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