Walk-through to configure a different softphone

dssman · Post by **dssman** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:12 pm

Oh, I see. That was for 25 units.

candlebox1369 · Post by **candlebox1369** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:15 pm

does anybody think that maybe magicJack reads the forums here and finds way to make it more troublesome for us? well i mean... it is inexpensive, but if they were to add the $ spent on electricity to power up a pc 24/7... that will add more to the bill... and my pc is quite power hungry unfortunately.

what if we start a screening process... or just post stuff on irc? or....i dunno... well let's see who's the first one to post a working ata with magicjack sip info...

MagicJake · Post by **MagicJake** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 1:30 pm

candlebox1369 wrote:does anybody think that maybe magicJack reads the forums here and finds way to make it more troublesome for us?

I'm sure they must be reading this forum. They want to see what security holes they have and patch them. Who wouldn't? I was hoping that they would view the few who already had their passwords before the encryption as "water over the dam" but I guess they decided to make the effort to shut those down too.

jeffnyc · Post by **jeffnyc** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:14 pm

Yes...... they are all here.... reading (almost) all our posts....

kconaty · Post by **kconaty** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:33 pm

My ata no longer registers as of today

candlebox1369 · Post by **candlebox1369** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:45 pm

well i think

1. for helping them figure out where they need to improve their security
2. for being a free tech support for them
3. and for simply being magicJack enthusiasts who have passed the word to others to try

that we should all get a 1 yr free license

or even better... after all we've done, let us use it on an ATA

, after all, we can save even more money and electricity this way

oh and lets not forget the posts with users posting how much more clearer the signal was with an ATA instead of the magicJack...
more happy customers = good business...

all magicJack employees read this post!

joecanadian · Post by **joecanadian** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:58 pm

same asterisk no longer registered.. they changed something..

as of this morning I have noticed can not call out server tells me awaiting auth sent..

goonierag · Post by **goonierag** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:34 pm

Dan said in a post over at http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r187115 ... ~start=280 that in they are going to let people byob and will be selling numbers for 3 dollars a year in march. That be great if they do that.

joecanadian · Post by **joecanadian** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:52 pm

maybe I did it wrong but I am at 2.9 days and just started it now..
(guessing it will grow in a few days to 14) Any updates from some of you guys out there..

I am getting something like 3928937 pass/sec athlon in a old compaq laptop 1200 mzh

I got magicjack and the cain cracker running with 512 megs ram

it looks maxed

but a call through on it seems to be fine no jitters or anything..

kumar · Post by **kumar** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:04 pm

How long do you think it will take with a Pentium D 820 2.8ghz Dual Core with 2MB cache and 2GB RAM? Do you think the magicjackASSES just changed the password or we won't be able to ever get the config for it. Also it would be nice if someone could post a little how to on using this method. I personally can't get cain to work.
Help appreciated!
Kumar

P.S Happy New Year!!

magicman · Post by **magicman** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:19 pm

Well, if magicjack guys are reading this, Let it be known, if your software was not so damn buggy, and it didnt crash every day, most of us would not be trying to use an ATA! I only started using one because my unit crashes about every 3 hours, and I even tried to resolve the problem through their tech support, but they are NOT smart enough to write a simple VOIP application, I mean really, this SIP protocol stuff is not hard, their software is so rigged, it is actually of bunch of stupid GDI picture crap on top of the "TigerJet VOIP Hardware Interface Demo Software 11.01" Magicjack needs to hire a few GOOD programmers to get the application working correctly! And quite outsourcing to someone who cant speak english.

kumar · Post by **kumar** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:38 pm

Not to suck up or anything but this is still their beta. I would say they're doing a pretty good job for beta even though there are some bugs. For $40 i am not complaining.

kenbr · Post by **kenbr** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 5:57 pm

kumar wrote:Not to suck up or anything but this is still their beta. I would say they're doing a pretty good job for beta even though there are some bugs. For $40 i am not complaining.

I would pretty much second that opinion. I haven't really had any problem with the USB adapter but I need an ATA so it can be up at all times without having to worry about whether the computer is up or not. I work from home and I do a lot of testing on my PC. This requires quite a bit of shutting down and rebooting which is not really a good thing if you're on the phone with a customer at the same time. Although I really like the Magicjack service I don't know that I can use it if I have to have the PC running to talk.

joecanadian · Post by **joecanadian** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:31 pm

They know that allowing to use a ATA is a must. They just want to make money. y providers.

candlebox1369 · Post by **candlebox1369** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:08 pm

kenbr wrote:
kumar wrote:Not to suck up or anything but this is still their beta. I would say they're doing a pretty good job for beta even though there are some bugs. For $40 i am not complaining.
I would pretty much second that opinion.

i third it. i was actually surprised it was working in xp x64! which means it should also works in windows server 2003 x64. not bad....

joecanadian wrote: hey as lovely as that is.. I don't use windows I use Linux thats all..
if they open things up and keep things as cheap as they are I will buy alot more accounts.

i agree. it could be better for both them and us... if magicJack lets users use an ATA, even if they don't provide support for it, then their service will be OS independent, not to mention that once it's up, the connection will be more reliable as we all know hardware beats software any day. why keep this quality away from the customers? plus, they will get less customer support headaches because there will be less people with problems.

joecanadian wrote: I sorta like knowing that all the traffic from my computer actually is..
no hidden tasks no 3 keys for complet backdoor access one the NSA has.. no secrets..

this reminds me of a story i read on betanews... how skype went down due to microsoft's fault (all the super node computers simultaneously rebooting at the same time because of windows update which runs 2nd tues of each month if set an automatic) but then how it wasn't.... and how it was interesting that before that happened the govt. wanted a way in which would require changing their algorithm or something like that... maybe this won't be for magicJack, but these days who knows.

MagicJacked · Post by **MagicJacked** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:05 am

Played with cain and have it working on my password. Says 16 days to go!
Anyway, seems like it is single threaded. Too bad, 2 threads would have cut the time in half.

Getting about 700,000 per second. P4-3.06GHz HT.

How do we know the password it numeric and 12 digits?

Anyway, I guess I have a 50% chance of finding the password in the first 8 days. But I loose those 50/50 deals about 90% of the time. Maybe I should have it count down?

candlebox1369 · Post by **candlebox1369** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:59 am

MagicJacked wrote: How do we know the password it numeric and 12 digits?

Because before the link(s) went dead, it showed a 12 character password, all numeric.

MagicJacked wrote: Anyway, I guess I have a 50% chance of finding the password in the first 8 days. But I loose those 50/50 deals about 90% of the time. Maybe I should have it count down?

With my kind of luck, it would probably find it in the last hour, ha-ha. I don't think there's a way to count down in Cain... and it almost seems random if you look at the current password it's trying.

I think magicJack might offer to use their service on an ATA, but maybe charge extra... well I wouldn't mind paying a little more for that. But if they completely block it, I'm not so sure I'm going to renew it. I mean, it would have been sweet with GC, but now I think i'm going to stick with a good old cell phone.

joecanadian · Post by **joecanadian** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 2:44 am

well just giving us sip info would be fine.. cause I need a way for me and my friends that share a connection to each have there own account.. with out fighting over common ports lol

What I do not get is this is a super old computer amd athlon 1500 runs at 1.2 mzh and I am getting 3 000 000 per second how can a 2.4 dual core or a 3. something be slower then my good old athlon

updating its now showing me 4.7 days its been running well scroll back and look at the time of my last post.. give you a idea.. so

wooh I was watching the screen and it just hit 7 000 000 pass/sec

maybe I did something wrong..

ops now its showing 2.7 days fairly steady

ahh who knows..

I know turning ht off makes the processor faster on the intels.. maybe try that.. (sorta defeats the purpose of having it.. )

ir_efrem · Post by **ir_efrem** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:33 pm

I for one, almost never shut off my computer so the power saving don't mean much to me. I have an ATA device sitting here doing nothing and it would be beneficial for me to use it instead.

What I hate the most is the software popping up. Even using the tools that other have posted, the software will still kick me back to the desktop in the middle of a game, even though it doesn't actually pop up. If there was a way to keep me in a game while MJ is running it wouldn't bother me to keep the MJ device and not use an ATA.

MagicJacked · Post by **MagicJacked** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 4:48 pm

ir_efrem wrote:I for one, almost never shut off my computer so the power saving don't mean much to me. I have an ATA device sitting here doing nothing and it would be beneficial for me to use it instead.

What I hate the most is the software popping up. Even using the tools that other have posted, the software will still kick me back to the desktop in the middle of a game, even though it doesn't actually pop up. If there was a way to keep me in a game while MJ is running it wouldn't bother me to keep the MJ device and not use an ATA.

I play games (Counter Strike Source). No problems. But I start MJ as a different user, automatically.

ir_efrem · Post by **ir_efrem** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 1:24 am

good idea - ill give that a try in fact

I wouldn't mind having some linux support thrown in as well. That way my phone would work while I'm working in linux.

MagicJacked · Post by **MagicJacked** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:29 am

Cain crashed a few minutes ago. I had just checked and so far it had not found a password.
If the password is 12 numeric digits, and that takes 14+ days, we are screwed if they just make it hex.
if 10^12 = 14 days
then 16^12 = 3940 days

MagicJacked · Post by **MagicJacked** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:36 am

I rebooted and started cain and sniffing. Then started MJ. Cain logged 1 SIP password. It was cracked in about 1 second. It was only 4 digits.

What is going on? I started MJ the normal way that allows it to upgrade. It did upgrade about 2-6 days ago.

Oh, the password is the same as it was Nov 13, 2007. I guess I don't have the update?

candlebox1369 · Post by **candlebox1369** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:08 am

hm. that's interesting. my password is (or at least was) 12 digits. but i tried it with cain again, and the password has changed. weird.

oh yeah, i never used it on an ata either so it's not like if they are trying to screw only those who are using an ATA. i'm not sure exactly what's happening but i imagine for those people whose ATAs don't work anymore that the password just changed.

joecanadian · Post by **joecanadian** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:56 am

humm

I am 1.3 days left on mine.. but mine was 12 digits when I started.. (first grab) I just can't use that silly device it drives me nuts. I want my freedom of my own software or device.

It would really suck if they made there own devices.. the thing is if they want to make money tell them to continue the silly device cause they sell and silly people will buy them.. but allow Bring your own device and just concentrate on keep the servers running and making them better..

asterisk allows me to use all my voip service providers in one place. I dunno about you guys but I use different providers for different places I call like I call Europe quite a bit. Magic jack is not that great for me being ulaw codec cause it takes up to much bandwidth . especially when others are on the phone.. but its nice to not think about how many mins you used when you make that odd call to LA

Post by **MagicHack** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 7:49 pm

joecanadian wrote:humm

I am 1.3 days left on mine.. but mine was 12 digits when I started.. (first grab) I just can't use that silly device it drives me nuts. I want my freedom of my own software or device.

Using cain to crack the password is probably not going to work well. The new password (at least mine), is 20 DIGITS long. I obtained my password simply by attaching a debugger to the magicjack.exe process, and stepping through... I'll try to come up with a way that is easier for people to use...

I haven't bothered trying to decrypt their encryption scheme (at least not yet) - I just stepped over the decryption part, and grabbed the credentials when they were in plaintext...

MagicHack

P.S. Sorry for being M.I.A. for so long, just got back from vacation...

SpamBox · Post by **SpamBox** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:08 pm

Thanks! Was tired of looking at Cain anyway!

msiam · Post by **msiam** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 9:06 pm

Thanks MH, I'm on the edge of my seat here hitting refresh over and over on this.. I just know you are going to have the remedy any second now..lol

MagicJacked · Post by **MagicJacked** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:28 pm

MH, does the 20 digit password work with the ATA?

Did you try it twice to see if the password is the same twice?

I would guess MJ could change the password as often as they like.

Thanks

Post by **MagicHack** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 11:28 pm

SpamBox wrote:Thanks! Was tired of looking at Cain anyway!

Hmmm...

Interesting. I just got the credentials for another one of my jacks, and it has a 12 digit password... weird.

joecanadian · Post by **joecanadian** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 12:58 am

ugh I caused a problem with this post so no one reply here.. in fact delete your posts!

kumar · Post by **kumar** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:20 am

This calls for a new Topic....
Kumar

drjekyl · Post by **drjekyl** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:40 am

Hmmm...wonder why no answers to the above questions on this?

Running from the USB again is terrible. Keeps crapping out, pc and the MJ unit need to be rebooted 2X a day or it just stops working.

So, if anyone like the above poster(s) knows how to get back aboard the ata train, feel free to PM me with a few clues. I'd appreciate it.

SpamBox · Post by **SpamBox** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:43 am

I think we have all just settled for waiting until March when hopefully we be able to BYOD then.

drjekyl · Post by **drjekyl** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 1:49 am

Relying on MJ promised date for cheap BYOD?

Now that is a bit outa whack. They have never kept a deadline, by my count.

MagicJacked · Post by **MagicJacked** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:11 am

drjekyl wrote:Relying on MJ promised date for cheap BYOD?

Now that is a bit outa whack. They have never kept a deadline, by my count.

Did they say which year?

drjekyl · Post by **drjekyl** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:14 am

I think people on here know exactly how to get their credentials again, but don't want to share publicly for fear of MJ finding out and plugging up that hole as well.

So, share by PM, you know?

SpamBox · Post by **SpamBox** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 2:21 am

drjekyl wrote:Relying on MJ promised date for cheap BYOD?

Now that is a bit outa whack. They have never kept a deadline, by my count.

True but we can still hope!

candlebox1369 · Post by **candlebox1369** » Wed Jan 02, 2008 3:19 am

MagicJacked wrote:
drjekyl wrote:Relying on MJ promised date for cheap BYOD?

Now that is a bit outa whack. They have never kept a deadline, by my count.
Did they say which year?

LOL. hahaha. well at least if they did say we can hold them to it... i do hope it's sooner rather than later though.

drjekyl · Post by **drjekyl** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:44 pm

Well, all I can say is this: I got my password after a heck of a lot of eye-bending searching in huge code files and a little help from a couple of PM's. I will add this: I am POSITIVE that at least one person who IM'd me after my note posted a few days back is working for MJ and was feeling me out on what I had "found" just so they can know how people are still cracking their passwords in order to look for ways to close up even more of the flaws in their system.

To them I say this: 8oPPPPPPPPPPP

If you would just make the POS USB work better (you know, where it didn't stall out every 12 hours or so of continuous use) I wouldn't need to run it in an ATA box.

kingfisher1111 · Post by **kingfisher1111** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:04 pm

we really don't want to share the technique in public so MJ will come up again with a new security update and will keep every one in trouble.
I hope every one understands this.I know so many people know this technique

Thanks

candlebox1369 · Post by **candlebox1369** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:04 pm

drjekyl wrote:Well, all I can say is this: I got my password after a heck of a lot of eye-bending searching in huge code files and a little help from a couple of PM's. I will add this: I am POSITIVE that at least one person who IM'd me after my note posted a few days back is working for MJ and was feeling me out on what I had "found" just so they can know how people are still cracking their passwords in order to look for ways to close up even more of the flaws in their system.

I'm sure there are mJ employees here in disguise, so who wants to come up with a screening process? ha-ha... wait... can maybe the creator of this forum block magicJack's IP Address(es)? i dunno...

Well to look on the bright side... after you do get your sip info, you can have a better piece of mind knowing it's a little more secure and that not just anyone can get into your account... especially by just typing in a url (that was pretty bad). i suppose the only problem is getting it, and for some of us, getting it yet again as they change it.

i think at one point i was concerned a bit that they might lose some money by not having their ads on their software if people use an ATA (we don't want them to go out of business either). but then again, if one is able to get their service working on an ata, i doubt one will fall for the ads. i mean... i bet a lot of people here use firefox with the adblock plus add-on. moreover, i don't see why magicJack wouldn't offer byod as they'll save money on 1) the magicJack, 2) support.

SpamBox · Post by **SpamBox** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:23 am

candlebox1369 wrote:i don't see why magicJack wouldn't offer byod as they'll save money on 1) the magicJack, 2) support.

I might be alone here but personally I wouldn't mind paying a little extra if it meant I could BYOD (which hopefully means a more reliable service) AND get decent tech support (or heck at least a status page).

chubby0007 · Post by **chubby0007** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:04 pm

just curious.. i'm wanting to use my SR ata but i don't know how to use cain and fiddler is not much help?.. could someone help pm me please. =)

thank Q

Post by **laserjobs** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:29 pm

chubby0007 wrote:just curious.. i'm wanting to use my SR ata but i don't know how to use cain and fiddler is not much help?.. could someone help pm me please. =)

thank Q

Don't bother with cain at this point

chubby0007 · Post by **chubby0007** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 12:34 pm

thanks so cain and fiddler both are useless at this point? thank god you've told me i am running cain for 3 days now.. =) well just wait until someone could show us new way of obtaining the new sip cred.

kconaty · Post by **kconaty** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:15 pm

somebody please pm me with how to get sip info? thanks.

SpamBox · Post by **SpamBox** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:35 pm

Gregg wrote: Configure this to your tastes - I use something like:
Code: Select all
\a\a.T|[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|#1\a\a.T;match=1;prestrip=2;
Post any problems or comments you may have.
Thanks again to everyone who helped me via PM to understand all of this.
- Gregg

So what does this do, and where can I find the other options available?

chubby0007 · Post by **chubby0007** » Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:59 am

SpamBox wrote:
Gregg wrote: Configure this to your tastes - I use something like:
Code: Select all
\a\a.T|[2-9]xxxxxxxxx|#1\a\a.T;match=1;prestrip=2;
Post any problems or comments you may have.
Thanks again to everyone who helped me via PM to understand all of this.
- Gregg
So what does this do, and where can I find the other options available?

anyone whom can help me with this please pm me i really want to get my cred. thank Q so much

SUNBURNED · Post by **SUNBURNED** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:30 pm

Can someone PM me with the updated way to get MJ's SIP credentials? I want to use my old Sunrocket ATA (AC-211) too. And, no, I'm not an undercover from MJ.

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