T5710 1.2GHz - has two flavor CPU's - which is yours?

momo · Post by **momo** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 4:22 pm

I recently discovered, much to my continuing annoyance so far, regarding every little thing going screwy with my project involving the Thin Client...

that the 1.2 GHz version of the T5710 has two different CPU chips available.

One seems to work with a 1GB RAM Module - uses the TM8800 processor
(not speaking of the FlashDOM here, just the RAM)

and the other "flavor" is the TM8600 processor, and causes the usage of the 1GB RAM Module to make vertical lines and moving dots all over the screen, not showing any text or graphics in any screen POST or DOS or OS

you can notice the screen change from the blinking of the vertical lines and dots, but no graphics.

so ... what's the point of this thread?

if you tried , or will try, the 1GB RAM Module, see if you first have the correct processor to have a chance to work with it.

Look into your BIOS / system information to see the processor type

if it's the TM8600 ... chances are you'll have this problem
if it's the TM8800 ... chances are it WILL WORK.

I'd be interested to know, of all the T5710 units out there, please take the
poll on which processor you have on your T5710

My original T5710 1.2GHz unit had a TM8800
When HP sent me the board replacement fix for my BIOS fault,
they sent me one with a TM8600
making the 1GB RAM not work

solarpower · Post by **solarpower** » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:35 pm

Too bad, mine is also 8600 instead of 8800. I have t5710.

davrow · Post by **davrow** » Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:00 pm

Hadn't known of this issue until after I had mine in my hands... t5710 w/8600

But it is working fine with the 512, so I guess I don't really care.

fuankn · Post by **fuankn** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:20 pm

Sorry I'm late to the party but I have a TM8600 and it's working fine with 1GB of RAM.

ret27m · Post by **ret27m** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 7:36 pm

fuankn

Can you tell us what brand and what speed the memory is you are using in your T5710 with TM8600, I want to upgrade mine to 1GB....thanks

fuankn · Post by **fuankn** » Wed Nov 19, 2008 11:05 pm

For the benefit of everybody I'm replying ot a private message here.

I'm using a Mushkin PC2700 SODIMM in my T5710 with the TM8600.

Hope this helps.

momo · Post by **momo** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:06 pm

fuankn wrote:For the benefit of everybody I'm replying ot a private message here.

I'm using a Mushkin PC2700 SODIMM in my T5710 with the TM8600.

Hope this helps.

this is all very interesting.
and i'm glad it works...
it means my T5710 that HP replaced,
must have also been damaged,
if it didn't work with the 1GB RAM.

so it's possible that the CPU doesn't matter, OR
there may still be some differences,
even with the TM8600 based boards

this has all been very strange

and to top it all off, the new T5730 w/PCI-PCIe Expansion HP sent as replacement,
was delivered by FedEx to a totally different address from the one shown on the Label.

(Stolen by the driver or whomever he delivered it to, ... by "mistake"

)
(They can't find it now, and the "business" delivered to says they can't find it)

yeah right

)
(the FedEx driver did this same thing, even to that same address as now, three times, before, within the last two years.)
(i wonder if it's the same driver as from then, and if so, why's he still working there)

murphy's law is real people!!, (or is the spelling Murphies ?)

ret27m · Post by **ret27m** » Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:46 pm

I ordered a 1gb stick of mushkin pc2700, ill report as soon as it arrives, hopefully ill get it befor turkey day......

testing123 · Post by **testing123** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:21 pm

fuankn wrote:For the benefit of everybody I'm replying ot a private message here.

I'm using a Mushkin PC2700 SODIMM in my T5710 with the TM8600.

Hope this helps.

fuankn: Where is the cheapest place to get these? I don't see any availability at pcmemorystore Thanks

ret27m · Post by **ret27m** » Sun Nov 23, 2008 6:11 pm

Here is where I ordered mine.

http://www.priceguidenetwork.com/mushki ... 91304.html

Hope this helps

testing123 · Post by **testing123** » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:06 pm

ret27m wrote:Here is where I ordered mine.

http://www.priceguidenetwork.com/mushki ... 91304.html

Hope this helps

ret27m: Thanks!

fuankn · Post by **fuankn** » Fri Nov 28, 2008 4:53 am

I got mine on eBay. It's the exact same one that ret27m posted the link for.

testing123 · Post by **testing123** » Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:45 am

fuankn wrote:I got mine on eBay. It's the exact same one that ret27m posted the link for.

Thanks, I have 2 or 3 8600's that I will be testing this out on shortly. 1GB RAM will make them unbelievably powerful little Linux dynamos.

testing123 · Post by **testing123** » Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:47 pm

momo wrote:I recently discovered, much to my continuing annoyance so far, regarding every little thing going screwy with my project involving the Thin Client...

that the 1.2 GHz version of the T5710 has two different CPU chips available.

One seems to work with a 1GB RAM Module - uses the TM8800 processor
(not speaking of the FlashDOM here, just the RAM)

and the other "flavor" is the TM8600 processor, and causes the usage of the 1GB RAM Module to make vertical lines and moving dots all over the screen, not showing any text or graphics in any screen POST or DOS or OS

you can notice the screen change from the blinking of the vertical lines and dots, but no graphics.

so ... what's the point of this thread?

if you tried , or will try, the 1GB RAM Module, see if you first have the correct processor to have a chance to work with it.

Look into your BIOS / system information to see the processor type

if it's the TM8600 ... chances are you'll have this problem
if it's the TM8800 ... chances are it WILL WORK.

I'd be interested to know, of all the T5710 units out there, please take the
poll on which processor you have on your T5710

My original T5710 1.2GHz unit had a TM8800
When HP sent me the board replacement fix for my BIOS fault,
they sent me one with a TM8600
making the 1GB RAM not work

Clarification and Good news/Bad news.

1) Good: the 1GB Transcend RAM is sold at Newegg!! I just bought/received 2

2) Bad: I experienced the EXACT problem described by momo above with one of my T5710 8600's
T5710 (8600), Manufactured: May 2005, Product #: PY705AT#ABA <-- does NOT work w/ 1GB, max = 512MB
BIOS "OEM Config Table Version": 0902

It will go up to 512MB RAM, but the Transcend 1GB causes the blinking characters etc. I jiggled the vga connector and would sometimes get the HP post screen to "flash" by quickly, but it was rare and fleeting. I thought it might be due to cold solder joint on the VGA, but re-soldering didn't fix it either.

T5710 (8600), Manufactured: October 2005, Product #: PY705AA#ABA <-- DOES work w/ 1GB
BIOS "OEM Config Table Version": 1001

I might look into the BIOS versions to see if there is any possible update.
EDIT: BIOS is the latest (v1.02)

EDIT2: Updated to include "OEM Config Table Version" differences (BIOS versions are the same) -- anyone know anything about this parameter??

ret27m · Post by **ret27m** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:21 pm

As far as the RAM/MEMORY is concerned mine would NOT work with transcend ram/memory but it did work with mushkin ram/memory...not to be confused with a 1gb transcend flash drive.

testing123 · Post by **testing123** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:40 pm

ret27m wrote:As far as the RAM/MEMORY is concerned mine would NOT work with transcend ram/memory but it did work with mushkin ram/memory...not to be confused with a 1gb transcend flash drive.

ret27m: Yes, I am talking about the Transcend RAM -- there was another post that gave the specific part # and I happened to find it at Newegg while ordering other stuff.

Do you have a T5710 PY705AT#ABA that you have tried with the Mushkin 1GB?

Would love to know before I buy the mushkin memory as well. (The Transcend 1GB is working great in the T5710 PY705AA#ABA)

Thanks in advance if you know.

ret27m · Post by **ret27m** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 8:30 pm

Mine is the T7510 PY705AA#ABA, but mine rejected the transcend 1gb mem...hmm odd, seems to be no rhyme or reason with these things. Does your PY705AA#AA show 00 for ram in the bios? Mine does but in win it shows 1gb just fine.

testing123 · Post by **testing123** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:07 pm

ret27m wrote:Mine is the T7510 PY705AA#ABA, but mine rejected the transcend 1gb mem...hmm odd, seems to be no rhyme or reason with these things. Does your PY705AA#AA show 00 for ram in the bios? Mine does but in win it shows 1gb just fine.

Yes, mine showed :00 in the BIOS but worked fine with the Transcend

(I am running Debian, so I did not try it with Windoze)

PS: When you say "rejected" the Transcend, what did yours do??

ret27m · Post by **ret27m** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:47 am

mine locked up at the HP screen and would not post.

testing123 · Post by **testing123** » Tue Dec 16, 2008 1:01 am

ret27m wrote:mine locked up at the HP screen and would not post.

OK, thanks.

noetic1 · Post by **noetic1** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:27 am

I just set up my TC and curious if it will take a 1GB stick so I'll steal one from my wife's Compaq laptop.

I was pleasantly surprised when I got my TC because it seems like I got an upgraded unit or just received one that was improperly tagged. I won a 5700 with 1GHz and 256MB Flash/256MB RAM but I received a 5710 1.1GHz unit 256MB Flash/256MB RAM instead. I would have never known if it wasn't for the pics stroths posted. [A big thanks to stroths]

BTW, I've got the TM8600 processor. I'll send a follow up post once I change the stick.

noetic1 · Post by **noetic1** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 3:52 am

Looks like I got lucky again. The 1GB stick works perfectly and it's not even pc2700 RAM. BIOS says 00 but HP System Information lists 1024MB in Memory Slot 1.

I installed Kingston ValueRAM 1GB PC3200 400MHz DDR1 which I bought at Buy.com last month for my wife's laptop. I figured it would be backwards compatible and it sure seems to be.

It looks like Buy.com is still selling it at the same price I bought it last month - $26.99 with free shipping.

http://www.buy.com/prod/kingston-valuer ... 94804.html

Since I now have 1GB of RAM I increased my Z: drive/RAM disk to the max setting of 64MB. Is there any way to increase the RAM disk size to a bigger size, say 128MB?

testing123 · Post by **testing123** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 10:15 am

noetic1 wrote:I just set up my TC and curious if it will take a 1GB stick so I'll steal one from my wife's Compaq laptop.

I was pleasantly surprised when I got my TC because it seems like I got an upgraded unit or just received one that was improperly tagged. I won a 5700 with 1GHz and 256MB Flash/256MB RAM but I received a 5710 1.1GHz unit 256MB Flash/256MB RAM instead. I would have never known if it wasn't for the pics stroths posted. [A big thanks to stroths]

BTW, I've got the TM8600 processor. I'll send a follow up post once I change the stick.

noetic1: One of mine was the exact same circumstances -- posted as a T5700 and when it showed up it was a T7510 512/256! (And had the PCI expansion kit). It was the deal of a lifetime ($40).

noetic1 wrote:Looks like I got lucky again. The 1GB stick works perfectly and it's not even pc2700 RAM. BIOS says 00 but HP System Information lists 1024MB in Memory Slot 1.

I installed Kingston ValueRAM 1GB PC3200 400MHz DDR1 which I bought at Buy.com last month for my wife's laptop. I figured it would be backwards compatible and it sure seems to be.

It looks like Buy.com is still selling it at the same price I bought it last month - $26.99 with free shipping.

http://www.buy.com/prod/kingston-valuer ... 94804.html

Since I now have 1GB of RAM I increased my Z: drive/RAM disk to the max setting of 64MB. Is there any way to increase the RAM disk size to a bigger size, say 128MB?

Good find on this -- I'd recommend you run a memory test just to make abosolutely sure ... I have seen them post sometimes and then freeze. They really are picky about RAM

noetic1 · Post by **noetic1** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:09 pm

testing -
Wow, you got an absolute steal for your TC and I thought I got a good deal.

Quick question, how do you run memtest? I tried to download the various files from memtest86+ but couldn't get them to run and kept getting a drive error after changing the first boot order to USB.

testing123 · Post by **testing123** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:16 pm

noetic1 wrote:testing -
Wow, you got an absolute steal for your TC and I thought I got a good deal.

Quick question, how do you run memtest? I tried to download the various files from memtest86+ but couldn't get them to run and kept getting a drive error after changing the first boot order to USB.

Not necessarily a quick thing. Options:

1) Setup a CDROM as a USB CD (via a USB <-> IDE cable, approx $14). Configure the BIOS of the TC to boot from USB. Memtest comes on almost all Linux distros, including Ubuntu, SUSE, etc. Burn one of these to a CDR.
This is actually pretty easy to do, if you have a CDROM drive hanging around.

2) Create a bootable USB Flash with Memtest on it.
More convenient, but a bit trickier; in the past, I've created a multiboot USB Flash that had a bunch of tools I could choose from a menu like this. I'll see what I can dig up but it may take me some time.

Hopefully, anyone else can chime in with any other options.

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