If you kneed or want to revert back to pre 12-21-08 Upgrade.

HolmanGT · Post by **HolmanGT** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 3:45 am

Here is a link to the pre 12-21-08 Upgrade if you want to revert back and don't already have a copy of 1.80.4512.3155.

Direct link to the previous Upgrade:

http://dc87.4shared.com/download/773706 ... 123155.exe

Darkman90808 · Post by **Darkman90808** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:07 am

As soon as I did the retrograde, it immediatley upgraded back to the 12/17/08 version. How do you make it stay put?

docooo · Post by **docooo** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:18 am

Find the URL that MJ use's and block it in IE

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lovemj2 · Post by **lovemj2** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:22 am

docooo wrote:Find the URL that MJ use's and block it in IE

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sorry I'm such a newbie but how is this done?

kumar · Post by **kumar** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:33 am

Even if your a newbie you can look at the new posts.. or search...
here

http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/fix- ... t4036.html

Kumar

jrd4849 · Post by **jrd4849** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:33 am

Does anyone know if the old 'hosts' file edit still works to block upgrades? That is adding "0.0.0.0 upgrade.talk4free.com" to your 'hosts' file.

emiliomcol · Post by **emiliomcol** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:39 pm

hello im trying to make the downgrade but automatically upgrade againg how can i do to avoid the update from automatic ?? im new on this if someone can lead me to a post with this info o tutorial i will apreciate thank

kumar · Post by **kumar** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:45 pm

kumar wrote:Even if your a newbie you can look at the new posts.. or search...
here

http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/fix- ... t4036.html

Kumar

emiliomcol ^^^ Same thing applies to you IMO

Kumar

az2008 · Post by **az2008** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:57 pm

kumar wrote: emiliomcol ^^^ Same thing applies to you IMO
Kumar

I'm sympathetic to your comment. It gets tiring to keep providing the same info again. But, it's virtually impossible to find information in a forum (not just this one).

That's the downside of using "conversations" as FAQs. The forum needs something like a Wiki where topical information could be collected, and new information from postings could be captured and used to enhance topics. Something that allows collaborative development (not single ownership of a posting). We could just point people to the common topics, which would be kept up to date as more information becomes available.

I've got some ideas on how to improve this situation. More thoughts coming soon.

Mark

az2008 · Post by **az2008** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:08 pm

jrd4849 wrote:Does anyone know if the old 'hosts' file edit still works to block upgrades? That is adding "0.0.0.0 upgrade.talk4free.com" to your 'hosts' file.

The only way to know for sure is to try it, and then start wireshark, and make MJ go through an upgrade (however that's done). Trace the IP activity and see if the upgrade occurs, and then if any of the activity referred to the IP address for upgrade.talk4free.com.

The person who reported how to block the ads (to stop the script error) said the upgrade can be blocked the same way. Both posts were this morning, in the past few hours.

Mark

kumar · Post by **kumar** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:15 pm

OK.. sorta random.. but HolmanGT were you making bread while posting about people who "kneed" the file

Kumar

kumar · Post by **kumar** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:34 pm

http://magicjackchat.co.cc/stuff/upgrad ... 2.3155.exe

I mirrored the file...

Kumar

tloe · Post by **tloe** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:59 pm

I tried the downgrade method outlined in another thread combined with this file and it simply doesn't work. After adding the hosts entry, deleting the MJ folders, blocking render.talk4free.com and flushing the DNS, the downgrade installed, but would not go to ready status.. double clicking the error 3 box would open the reg screen, but it just flashed twice and remained nonfunctional. I don't know if this because something in the hardware was flashed and rendered incompatible with the old software or due to the company's forcing users to use the new version. Has anyone gotten this to work?

Kokkos · Post by **Kokkos** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:33 pm

Same here followed same process, Registration screen flashes then goes away. cannot downgrade

If I allow the upgrade it disables my ability to use my office Panasonic 4-line phone.

Cannot dial out, I have switched polorazation (green-Red) with no success. My home phone MJ did not get the upgrade and works perfectly with my office phone.

PT Barnum has taken over VOIP!

Kokkos

Darkman90808 · Post by **Darkman90808** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 2:47 pm

Has anyone gotten this to work?

Not me... and I just did a 30 minute test call and got cut off as predicted. There's no joy in Mudville tonight.

az2008 · Post by **az2008** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 4:00 pm

Kokkos wrote:PT Barnum has taken over VOIP!

LOL. Dan's World. Where 5 years means 4. And "Lucky You" means you've been shafted.

I feel like we're the inmates on Nurse Ratchet's floor. Soothing elevator music 24 hours a day. When Nurse Ratchet's unhappy, everyone's unhappy.

Mark

Kokkos · Post by **Kokkos** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:36 pm

Well the lobotomy was painless; I just can't tell the Green pill from the Red one!

If anyone comes up with a Step by Step on how to Downgrade and Keep from upgrading this would be the reason for this Season to do so.

I have attempted all posted bits and pieces with no success.

Greatly appreciate all those who post and painfully tread through new technology.

Merry Christmas!

Kokkos

JohnnyFreightTRAIN · Post by **JohnnyFreightTRAIN** » Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:22 pm

I had sucessfully downgraded by editing my hostfile, but that broke and I was forced to update again.
30 minuite time limit is gone now though.
Atleast for me...

isleblue65 · Post by **isleblue65** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 12:23 am

Does anybody have a Magic Jack that works right now?

If everybody did the upgrade, and so far is unable to downgrade again - as I am unable to - then it would seem that everyone would be affected by the inability to dial out.

Maybe it's Dan's way to reduce that inevitable Holiday bandwidth useage to zero. Limiting calls to 1/2 hour was OK, but this is a much better corporate savings plan! He will send out the fix program on the 26th.

Craig

grrr · Post by **grrr** » Thu Dec 25, 2008 3:01 am

I had reverted back to the old software, but I had the upgrade forced on me. I kept trying the old software, but the update kept forcing itself , so I had no choice. I tried a few local numbers and the ring was constant static and distorted. Any voice was garbled. I dialed the echo number, (909-390-0003) and the ring was static as was my voice.

I tried the new software on my other notebook and the call sounded okay, so I went back to the original notebook and instead of plugging the magicJack into the USB hub I just plugged it into a regular USB port and the static sounds and distortion went away and now everything works fine.

After wrestling around with this *%&%#& thing for the past day and night I was about to scrap it and not bother renewing when it expired in Feb 09, but I'll continue to use it and if things run smoothly then I'll renew in February. My success rate with magicJack is about 70% successful. A lot of redials and a few dropped calls. I only put up with it because it's inexpensive and I have my cell phone as a back up.

*I'll post a copy of this message in http://www.dslreports.com/forum/magicjack

free2talk · Post by **free2talk** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:12 am

Anyone able to go back to pre Dec 17 Version.The hosts file entry is not working.
Caller id not working anymore on my panasonic cordless handset and call quality has gone down since the new upgrade.Everything worked fine before the last upgrade.

Why fix something that aint broke ?? &!#(&#(#(

az2008 · Post by **az2008** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:16 am

free2talk wrote:The hosts file entry is not working.(

That stopped working two months earlier.

Mark

dna1776 · Post by **dna1776** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:15 pm

thanks for the info.....seems to work well....this older interface was better as well. Blocked all domain names relevant to MJ...the AD box stays blank now

HolmanGT · Post by **HolmanGT** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:40 pm

dna1776 wrote:thanks for the info.....seems to work well....this older interface was better as well. Blocked all domain names relevant to MJ...the AD box stays blank now

Hmmm... It is strange that you got it to work. I was lead to believe they had come up with a method of forcing this latest update and if you didn't accept it your phone would stop functioning.

Does going back to the older version do anything to prevent the 60 minute cap from terminating your calls?

az2008 · Post by **az2008** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:43 pm

HolmanGT wrote:Does going back to the older version do anything to prevent the 60 minute cap from terminating your calls?

Is the call limit still in effect? People were told it was just for the holidays. But, the way Dan plays fast and loose with terminology, I guess we should have asked *which* holidays.

Mark

HolmanGT · Post by **HolmanGT** » Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:03 pm

az2008 wrote:
HolmanGT wrote:Does going back to the older version do anything to prevent the 60 minute cap from terminating your calls?
Is the call limit still in effect? People were told it was just for the holidays. But, the way Dan plays fast and loose with terminology, I guess we should have asked *which* holidays.

Mark

Well I know for a fact it was in effect as of yesterday about mid-day when I was cut off at 01.00.01, 1 hour, 1 second. Well at least you can say that Dan's programmers are about as precise as you can get.

isleblue65 · Post by **isleblue65** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:50 pm

dna1776 wrote:thanks for the info.....seems to work well....this older interface was better as well. Blocked all domain names relevant to MJ...the AD box stays blank now

Please post HOW you got the old update to stick. This is the make or break deal for me now as I can't use my phone with the current update.

Craig

mjayer · Post by **mjayer** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:14 pm

isleblue65 wrote:I can't use my phone with the current update.

Does the new version not work on your machine?

isleblue65 · Post by **isleblue65** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:01 pm

mjayer wrote:
isleblue65 wrote:I can't use my phone with the current update.
Does the new version not work on your machine?

Correct, the December "Lucky You" update made my Panasonic phone stop working to dial out. I can still use the softphone to dial and I can receive calls on the Panasonic. I can also dial out on a cheap corded phone.

I tried a powered USB hub with MagicJack plugged directly into it and the Panasonic phone plugged directly into MJ, but the same problem persists.

Reverting to the pre-lucky You upgrade would solve all of my problems It worked fine before that.

Craig

az2008 · Post by **az2008** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:44 pm

isleblue65 wrote:Please post HOW you got the old update to stick. This is the make or break deal for me now as I can't use my phone with the current update.

Have you tried putting an entry in your host file ("dir host /s" from every drive to find it) like:

129.1.0.0 upgrade.talk4free.com

That would prevent it from being upgraded. But, I don't know if it would prevent it from failing because it can't.

Mark

free2talk · Post by **free2talk** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:59 pm

az2008 wrote:
free2talk wrote:The hosts file entry is not working.(
That stopped working two months earlier.

Mark

az2008 wrote:
isleblue65 wrote:Please post HOW you got the old update to stick. This is the make or break deal for me now as I can't use my phone with the current update.
Have you tried putting an entry in your host file ("dir host /s" from every drive to find it) like:

129.1.0.0 upgrade.talk4free.com

That would prevent it from being upgraded. But, I don't know if it would prevent it from failing because it can't.

Mark

So Mark is the hosts file entry working or not working ?

az2008 · Post by **az2008** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 8:02 pm

free2talk wrote: So mark is the hosts file entry working or not working ?

It doesn't work for proxies. But, the last time I looked at a Wireshark capture, MJ used DNS resolution for upgrade, 911 and prov1.talk4free.com. And for mls.softjoys.com.

Mark

az2008 · Post by **az2008** » Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:00 pm

az2008 wrote:It doesn't work for proxies. But, the last time I looked at a Wireshark capture, MJ used DNS resolution for upgrade, 911 and prov1.talk4free.com. And for mls.softjoys.com.

FYI, see pageman's clever solution to change proxies here: http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/post29031.html#29031

That might be a better way to block MJ's access to the upgrade server too. Get the IP address for upgrade.talk4free.com, and set a static route (or iptables rule) to block that address.

Mark

isleblue65 · Post by **isleblue65** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:52 am

az2008 wrote:
isleblue65 wrote:Please post HOW you got the old update to stick. This is the make or break deal for me now as I can't use my phone with the current update.
Have you tried putting an entry in your host file ("dir host /s" from every drive to find it) like:

129.1.0.0 upgrade.talk4free.com

That would prevent it from being upgraded. But, I don't know if it would prevent it from failing because it can't.

Mark

No I have not tried that, but I'll mess around with it and check out Pageman's proxy modifier too. Funny that the angle you have to take to get MJ to work the way it did before they broke it is to try to block the upgrade rather than MJ releasing another upgrade that will solve the problem.

Let's hope someone comes up with something that works.

Craig

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