SIP Info with new update

thepbxkid · Post by **thepbxkid** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:44 am

Does anyone know how to get the sip info after the newest update? The pmdump program does not work anymore.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

manachinu · Post by **manachinu** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:08 am

Try this

1) If you already have Magicjack setup on you computer , Rename the mjusbsp to something else
2) Download older version of upgrade.exe (Available on this forum)
3) HAve 2 windows of command prompt open, one for getting pslist using pmdump -list and second to dump magicjack.exe
4) Run older version of upgrade.exe, magicjack will start up for 4-5 seconds (Show some error on the app) and shutdown for upgrading to the latest version. The first time it launches and if you are quick enough to dump you will get password, second time round the latest upgrade wont allow you to see the password ( note you have to be quick to get the process id and then the dump )

I have tried this successfully couple of times....timing or running the dump command is critical.

vgjhav · Post by **vgjhav** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:16 am

Has the SIP Info changed between now and then?

I had the SIP info working fine. However today when i came back from a break it would not work. Did they update the info?

manachinu · Post by **manachinu** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 11:33 am

Looks like its changed, i tried softphone and it doesnt register to network anymore, so guess even if we manage to get sip details they are of no user till someone figures out a workaround...sux

kamols · Post by **kamols** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 12:56 pm

Still works perfectly using Eyebeam or Bria Pro

emiliomcol · Post by **emiliomcol** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 2:49 pm

can some of the folks here lead me to a post or something detail where i can get my SIP and configure another softphone because i never try that i would like to test it thank a lot for any help

robatino · Post by **robatino** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 3:28 pm

emiliomcol wrote:can some of the folks here lead me to a post or something detail where i can get my SIP and configure another softphone because i never try that i would like to test it thank a lot for any help

http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/use- ... t3586.html

http://www.phoneservicesupport.com/linu ... -t739.html

proccw · Post by **proccw** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:12 pm

Not sure if this problem is brand new to the update. I had to run pmdump many times (like about 20) before I got a dump containing my password. I think I had to run the dump fairly quick after plugging in the MJ to be successful.

On a side note, anyone know the version number returned in the SIP messaging after this last update?

robatino · Post by **robatino** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:22 pm

You mean this (from log.txt)?

User-Agent: MagicJack/1.80.466c (SJ Labs)

You're right in that speed is important. The instructions should say to do the dump immediately after magicJack.exe starts, not after making the phone call (the info in log.txt isn't really needed anyway). If you're using Vista, the built-in dump utility is faster than using pmdump. Just open the Task Manager before starting magicJack.exe. As soon as it appears in the Task Manager, right-click on it and select "Create Dump File". This can be done in less than a second.

ratrod · Post by **ratrod** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:26 pm

has this update made ata's unusable? Been trying for 3 days to get a Gizmo up and it wont connect to server. Any help would be great.
Rat

proccw · Post by **proccw** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:42 pm

robatino wrote:You mean this (from log.txt)?

User-Agent: MagicJack/1.80.466c (SJ Labs)

You're right in that speed is important. The instructions should say to do the dump immediately after magicJack.exe starts, not after making the phone call (the info in log.txt isn't really needed anyway). If you're using Vista, the built-in dump utility is faster than using pmdump. Just open the Task Manager before starting magicJack.exe. As soon as it appears in the Task Manager, right-click on it and select "Create Dump File". This can be done in less than a second.

Thanks!

az2008 · Post by **az2008** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:45 pm

proccw wrote:Not sure if this problem is brand new to the update. I had to run pmdump many times (like about 20) before I got a dump containing my password. I think I had to run the dump fairly quick after plugging in the MJ to be successful.

On a side note, anyone know the version number returned in the SIP messaging after this last update?

Is there any concern that this update was Dan's "gentle" way to stop what you guys are doing without a large number of terminations? And that, those who don't get the hint might be terminated going forward?

I remember about eight months ago, before this practice became widespread, there was an occasional poster who said he'd been terminated for violation of the ToS. It sounded like Dan has a way to identify traffic not originating from the MJ softphone.

If traffic can be identified, I'd be worried about that.

Mark

robatino · Post by **robatino** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:55 pm

Unless the User-Agent in a substitute softphone is forged, that alone can be used to identify people doing this. In my case, I'm using Twinkle, which is Linux-only. That should give them a good clue as to why I'm doing this - it's not to avoid looking at ads. I'm also a very light user (usually less than 200 minutes/month). In any case, people can run it in a thin client or just with the monitor asleep, so they don't see the ads anyway. MJ shouldn't be counting too much on the ad revenue - if they get any, it's icing on the cake.

If I want to see what the current ads are, I just look at

http://render.talk4free.com/msgs/rotate.html
http://render.talk4free.com/msgs/rotate2.html
http://render.talk4free.com/msgs/rotate3.html

Edit: I should also have mentioned that having gone out of their way to make it possible for people to use ordinary phones instead of interacting with a PC directly, they've eliminated the need for people to look at the screen at all. So they shouldn't be expecting most people to do it.

az2008 · Post by **az2008** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:24 pm

robatino wrote:In my case, I'm using Twinkle, which is Linux-only. That should give them a good clue as to why I'm doing this - it's not to avoid looking at ads. I'm also a very light user (usually less than 200 minutes/month).

Not to start a big debate, but MJ may have an interest in making people use the MJ softphone because it gives MJ more dynamic control over usage of their network. E.g., the recent 15- to 60-minute call limit. They seem to be able to interact with the softphone without a full upgrade.

Another example was when MJ changed from proxy/vms hostnames to IP addresses. That seemed to happen via some kind of communication between the mothership and the clients. (I understand this example isn't important with respect to people running alternative softphones and ATA devices. But, it's just an example of the interest MJ may have in maintaining control of the client.).

Mark

robatino · Post by **robatino** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:41 pm

On a related note, I've noticed that when calling someone with Twinkle, if the other person hangs up, it doesn't end the call. If they wait, say, 20 or 30 seconds, then pick their phone up again, the call is still active. It doesn't end unless I stop the call at my end. This makes the explanation about needing to end "phantom" calls plausible to me. Has anyone had this happen when using the regular client?

proccw · Post by **proccw** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:19 pm

robatino wrote:On a related note, I've noticed that when calling someone with Twinkle, if the other person hangs up, it doesn't end the call. If they wait, say, 20 or 30 seconds, then pick their phone up again, the call is still active. It doesn't end unless I stop the call at my end. This makes the explanation about needing to end "phantom" calls plausible to me. Has anyone had this happen when using the regular client?

Interesting, I'll try it through the MJ softphone.

az2008, yes MJ needs to maintain control of their network, they can (or at least should be able to) impose caps on any call that enters their network, if they so wish, regardless of what client generates the call.

az2008 · Post by **az2008** » Sat Dec 27, 2008 6:25 pm

proccw wrote:az2008, yes MJ needs to maintain control of their network, they can (or at least should be able to) impose caps on any call that enters their network, if they so wish, regardless of what client generates the call.

I agree. That's why I thought the recent 15- to 60-minute limit sounded lame. But, if they bargained to control everything through the client, then I can understand the interest they have to require everyone to use their client.

But, you're right especially if MJ plans to sell an ATA service (which has been reported). They'd have to find ways to control things from the server.

Mark

trek101 · Post by **trek101** » Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:30 am

From what I am able to tell on my router logs; just as soon as you plug in the MJ dongle it creates a SSL connection and registers with the server from there it encrypts the contents in memory. Pretty much you will get giberish when you dump the memory contents to text.

Granted that if you are fast enough to dump it before the SSL session is completed there is some hope. By plugging and unplugging 20 or so times may cause the server on the other end to flag the account and suspend or terminate it permanently (only in theory).

Time will tell so to speak...

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