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gators5 · Post by **gators5** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:17 am

I haven't had any of these problems listed on these pages after I did a comparison test ofMJ and ooma. I have finally put MJ in a drawer and ended the frustration of making a simple phone call. ooma is just like a landline except there is no monthy bill. Yes it is more expensive than MJ, but there are none of MJ agrivations.

maine-iac · Post by **maine-iac** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:46 pm

gators5 wrote:I haven't had any of these problems listed on these pages after I did a comparison test ofMJ and ooma. I have finally put MJ in a drawer and ended the frustration of making a simple phone call. ooma is just like a landline except there is no monthy bill. Yes it is more expensive than MJ, but there are none of MJ agrivations.

Good for you! Have a nice day.

sligg111 · Post by **sligg111** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:23 pm

maine-iac wrote:
gators5 wrote:I haven't had any of these problems listed on these pages after I did a comparison test ofMJ and ooma. I have finally put MJ in a drawer and ended the frustration of making a simple phone call. ooma is just like a landline except there is no monthy bill. Yes it is more expensive than MJ, but there are none of MJ agrivations.
Good for you! Have a nice day.

Gave up on MJ seven months ago. For seven months, I have not had one problem with my new VOIP service-Ooma.

murphy · Post by **murphy** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:46 pm

sligg111 wrote:Gave up on MJ seven months ago. For seven months, I have not had one problem with my new VOIP service-Ooma.

I'm confused. You gave up on MJ 7 months ago. You joined this forum 3.5 months ago. Why are you posting here?

Boondocs · Post by **Boondocs** » Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:34 pm

I check these forums almost every day. I use both MJ and ooma and I have to say that ooma outperforms MJ in every way except price. I use the MJ for trips and such and keep my ooma as my home phone system.

If people are willing to drop the money on ooma and the risk involved with an invistment like that I would say go for it. It works great! If you are looking for an inexpensive backup phone then MJ all the way.

Anne · Post by **Anne** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:27 pm

Why is it no one ever recommends Skype?

Anne

mberlant · Post by **mberlant** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:16 pm

Gee, Anne, you must really enjoy eating the worms that come out of a newly opened can!

There are several reasons why Skype is the ugly stepcousin of VoIP.

First, it is a closed protocol instant messaging service that has the facility to carry voice payload. It is not a VoIP service. As such, it is not possible to use any standards-based client devices with their service, only dedicated equipment or a PC. By contrast, MJ uses the world standard SIP protocol as its transport mechanism, which allows for all of the "alternate client" solutions you have seen in the Tips and Tricks and Thin Client categories of this forum. Using SIP as the transport mechanism also permits other hacks, like the various proxy choosing hacks, even if you choose to remain using the MJ dongle on your PC.

Second, Skype's underlying network is an outgrowth of KaZaa, the P2P file sharing system that was popular 7-10 years ago. In fact, it was created by the same folks, who needed a new opportunity when the various governments around the world started arresting KaZaa customers for illegal file sharing. KaZaa and Skype both use a network scheme that stays afloat by leeching off the horsepower and bandwidth contributions of its members. This manifested itself badly for them about 18 months ago, when Microsoft released a major Service Pack for Windows XP. Unbeknownst to Skype, every PC that is set to take automatic updates from MS does so at the same hour, around 3AM local time. As this update rolled around the globe, every computer in each Time Zone started downloading the SP at the same time and, once finished downloading, installed the SP and rebooted. Once having rebooted, these PCs waited until daybreak for their owners to wake up, log in and restart the Skype client. Skype learned that with more than half of its supernodes (Skype clients who have enough bandwidth and/or computer horsepower to act as relay points in the "network") off line in each Time Zone its network had no means of support. They also learned that the network scheme was not self healing, and it took them several days to restore service. I am sure they made some changes in network topology since then, but as a closed protocol none of these changes, nor the current network engineering scheme, are public knowledge.

I would be curious to learn what anyone knows about their remedies.

norml jack · Post by **norml jack** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:50 pm

Magicjack service continues to be flawless for me.

mufon · Post by **mufon** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:10 pm

Ditto.

root · Post by **root** » Sun Mar 22, 2009 10:19 pm

I have to say the Magicjack is superbly functional. Most problems are on the end-user. We live in a time were unsophisticated persons are delving into the consumption of some products that they are not able to handle if said product is not perfectly idiot-proofed.

root

ret27m · Post by **ret27m** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:19 am

Ditto norml jack, except for a minor hic-up here and there mine has preformed way beyond my exspectations, and has saved me hundreds of dollars too boot, i fired ma bell long ago.....

Anne · Post by **Anne** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 5:22 am

Thank you, mberlant, for your teaching answer; I love technology and in this case skype history. BTW, all the worms I eat are made from soy.

I really appreciate the upbeat answers from everyone about how well mj works for them; me, too, but I'm superstitious enough to make an impromptu mojo over the device before connecting it.

Thanks, everyone - I really enjoy being somewhat literate in electronics.

Anne

smalcom · Post by **smalcom** » Sat Apr 11, 2009 5:12 pm

mberlant wrote:...Second, Skype's underlying network is an outgrowth of KaZaa, the P2P file sharing system that was popular 7-10 years ago. In fact, it was created by the same folks, who needed a new opportunity when the various governments around the world started arresting KaZaa customers for illegal file sharing. KaZaa and Skype both use a network scheme that stays afloat by leeching off the horsepower and bandwidth contributions of its members...

Thanks for reminding me that Skype is a P2P implementation. I forgot, and kept Skype up even when not using it. Don't want them to use my system as a node.

Poo619 · Post by **Poo619** » Sun Apr 12, 2009 12:09 am

as for skype using you as a node, there is a simple script that you can get to disable the "feature" It changes something in the registry. a simple yahoo search will find it for ya. If you are having problems locating it semd me a message I think I have it here somewhere

MJKobe · Post by **MJKobe** » Wed May 20, 2009 5:44 am

Very informative thread.

I just hope Ooma doesn't become a SunRocket in the process because their pricing is very similar to SunRocket.

JohnnyFreightTRAIN · Post by **JohnnyFreightTRAIN** » Thu Jul 23, 2009 9:02 pm

Really?
I wasn't around for sunrocket...
Sunrocket dongles costed 200.00+ !!!????
Holy crap.

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