Magic Jack verses TK6000
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Magic Jack verses TK6000
The TK6000 is new in the market and a new competitor of Magic jack.
The TK6000 do not need computer and recently launched in July,2009.
One time Payment for life time and more feature than magic jack e:g three way calling,Call Return ,Free 411 Directory Assistance etc etc
I am using magic jack and waiting to see some positive feedback from TK6000 customers
If you are using TK6000 please share your comments here.thanks
The TK6000 do not need computer and recently launched in July,2009.
One time Payment for life time and more feature than magic jack e:g three way calling,Call Return ,Free 411 Directory Assistance etc etc
I am using magic jack and waiting to see some positive feedback from TK6000 customers
If you are using TK6000 please share your comments here.thanks
It sounds interesting but they need to be in business a little while before I would give them my business. Ooma has reversed their deceision and are now offering voicemail with telo and seems to be a better deal as far as support and upgrading to premiere if one wants. MJ has to be making a ton of money right now being that their all over walmart in the phone section and have a dedicated infomercial on a shopping channel I get on directv that comes on at least four times a day. If TK can crack their way into some retail outlets then that is a good sign as to their long term viability and then I would be more out to give them a try.
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Re: Magic Jack verses TK6000
-MJ has 3 way calling, when receiving the calls.sher323 wrote:The TK6000 is new in the market and a new competitor of Magic jack.
The TK6000 do not need computer and recently launched in July,2009.
One time Payment for life time and more feature than magic jack e:g three way calling,Call Return ,Free 411 Directory Assistance etc etc
I am using magic jack and waiting to see some positive feedback from TK6000 customers
If you are using TK6000 please share your comments here.thanks
-Everybody, everywhere, gets free 411 directory assistance. After all, it's called 1-800-FREE411 for a reason.
-The use of "lifetime" in their ads is dubious, at best. The TOS says "lifetime of the product." That could mean anything. When it breaks, "Sorry". When they come out with a new version that you must upgrade to "Sorry." Not only that, but you are risking a significantly larger investment up front for a company with an uncertain future. If MJ goes bankrupt the day after I renew, I'm just out 20 bucks.
-I must be lucky, because I've had clear and reliable service with my MJ.
I concede that the direct router option is great. I'm looking forward to seeing the TK6000 situation develop.
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I have both MagicJack and the NetTalk TK6000 and have been doing side-by side comparisons for several weeks. I would say that NT is like Vonage without the bill.
NT blows away MJ for several reasons:
1) NT's call quality is better, clearer, & more consistently reliable
2) there is no need to leave the computer on because NT can plug directly into the router (or the USB like MJ if you prefer)
3) With NetTalk's TK6000, just pay $100 one time and then there is no more fees at all for life.
The only thing I can possibly say bad about NT's TK6k is that you have to dial "1" before the ten digits for all outgoing calls. This is something that NT tech support says will be changed soon. Like MJ, NT also claims that local number portability will be coming by years end (or in early January at latest). I think that LNP will be the thing that makes people buy any VoIP device, most folks want to keep their phone number so they keep their old service provider. I keep an old-fashioned copper POTS landline just for incoming calls (and to stay in the yellow pages), but mostly call out on NetTalk and MagicJack.
Another similarity I found between MJ and NT is the forum. There is a NetTalk TK6000 forum that looks EXACTLY like this one. That led me to believe the rumor floating around this forum that both NT and MJ were owned by the same company/network (Y-Max), but a check of the telco database www.telcodata.us shows that that is not the case.
NT blows away MJ for several reasons:
1) NT's call quality is better, clearer, & more consistently reliable
2) there is no need to leave the computer on because NT can plug directly into the router (or the USB like MJ if you prefer)
3) With NetTalk's TK6000, just pay $100 one time and then there is no more fees at all for life.
The only thing I can possibly say bad about NT's TK6k is that you have to dial "1" before the ten digits for all outgoing calls. This is something that NT tech support says will be changed soon. Like MJ, NT also claims that local number portability will be coming by years end (or in early January at latest). I think that LNP will be the thing that makes people buy any VoIP device, most folks want to keep their phone number so they keep their old service provider. I keep an old-fashioned copper POTS landline just for incoming calls (and to stay in the yellow pages), but mostly call out on NetTalk and MagicJack.
Another similarity I found between MJ and NT is the forum. There is a NetTalk TK6000 forum that looks EXACTLY like this one. That led me to believe the rumor floating around this forum that both NT and MJ were owned by the same company/network (Y-Max), but a check of the telco database www.telcodata.us shows that that is not the case.
TK6000
You must have had a good unit. My TK6000 had choppy outgoing voice, as if it was using G729 without sufficient buffering. I sent Mine back. Lifetime service is great, but choppy outgoing voice meant an early death.
Sooner or later, (probably after a more politicians have severe heart attacks or are assassinated) MJ will come to its senses and tolerate independent ATA usage, although they will not provide support.
Sooner or later, (probably after a more politicians have severe heart attacks or are assassinated) MJ will come to its senses and tolerate independent ATA usage, although they will not provide support.
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conniemadagain wrote:FYI ...
The Feds have determined that "Lifetime" UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED is SEVEN (7) years ...
That is quite a profound proclamation you've made! You're really not playing around, are you? Bold text and size 18 font?!
However, as pointed out in this very thread, the TOS does specify the offer as the "lifetime of the product." The company has further clarified at their forum that customers with "lifetime" service, for Tk failures outside of warranty, may purchase a replacement Tk6000, and continue enjoying their free "lifetime service." Whether that works out to be a deal or not, is left up to each customer to decide.
Will the Tk6000 survive long past its warranty? Will NetTalk still be around providing service long enough to matter? Will voice-only communications, tethered to a line, still be relevant even a few years into the future? Who knows?
Life is all just a big crapshoot, anyhoo!
As a footnote, the obvious should also be mentioned, that any Fed or State minimums for "lifetime" only apply when the term is disputed. If NetTalk wanted to continue to provide free service to those qualifying customers until their lives literally ended, they could obviously do so, even if not otherwise specified.
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Before anyone jump the gun and claim MagicJack uncompetetive, please read the terms of service for TK6000, it is very very long and too many restrictions. I think they are trying to monopolize the VoIP industry by baiting people to fund them then they charge users extra. Not only that you cannot use their service for call centers or any business sanctions. There are a lot of restrictions in which you can use your TK6000. Also if you leave the country with a TK6000 they may terminate your service if they find that you are using a protocol in a foreign nation or they can charge you extra fees without notice. Not only that, you can only buy 3 TK6000 per household, which sucks if they are trying to raise funds right now.
When you compare the two terms of service, the net talk is really trying to control your usage and if you exceed a certain amount of minutes per month (they don't tell you this only in the ToS) they can terminate your "lifetime" service without notice and place a service charge on you. When I read MagicJack's term of service its mainly about avoiding law suits with incompetent users who don't know how to use a PC.
When you compare the two terms of service, the net talk is really trying to control your usage and if you exceed a certain amount of minutes per month (they don't tell you this only in the ToS) they can terminate your "lifetime" service without notice and place a service charge on you. When I read MagicJack's term of service its mainly about avoiding law suits with incompetent users who don't know how to use a PC.
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MagicJackLover wrote:Before anyone jump the gun and claim MagicJack uncompetetive, please read the terms of service for TK6000, it is very very long and too many restrictions. I think they are trying to monopolize the VoIP industry by baiting people to fund them then they charge users extra. Not only that you cannot use their service for call centers or any business sanctions. There are a lot of restrictions in which you can use your TK6000. Also if you leave the country with a TK6000 they may terminate your service if they find that you are using a protocol in a foreign nation or they can charge you extra fees without notice. Not only that, you can only buy 3 TK6000 per household, which sucks if they are trying to raise funds right now.
When you compare the two terms of service, the net talk is really trying to control your usage and if you exceed a certain amount of minutes per month (they don't tell you this only in the ToS) they can terminate your "lifetime" service without notice and place a service charge on you. When I read MagicJack's term of service its mainly about avoiding law suits with incompetent users who don't know how to use a PC.
How do you do the voodoo that you do, so well?
Your ramblings have not illustrated anything nefarious.
These scary facts are silly. It's not unlike all the paranoia regarding MJ's language in their TOS allowing them to track the people you call, and allow targeted ads based on that data.
You make effective arguments such as "I think they are trying to monopolize the voip industry..." Ya think!? I'm pretty sure that's the goal of every voip company.
Their TOS gives you a clear monthly limit on their "unlimited" calls, which is 5000 minutes per month. Try getting a clear answer out of MJ. Ooma limits theirs to 3000 per month. Yes, NetTalk is downright diabolical. Dun dun DUNNN.
I'm no Tk fanboy. I don't even have one, yet. I love my MJ, and will probably even extend my service with the 5 year deal. That doesn't blind me to the potential benefits of the Tk6000.
-Direct router connection (that should stop those "incompetent [computer] users" dead in their tracks!)
-Currently offering "lifetime" service
-An actual customer service phone number
-Made in USA
I enjoy further discussion of the Tk6000, but I think the hysteria approach is over the top.
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Yes I'm sure you are one of those cheap people who are afraid to put down $69 for a 5 year plan. But you're willing to rant about TK6000's long ass ToS "gives you a clear monthly limit" of 5000 minutes. If it was clear it would be on their website instead of their ToS. Your only potential benefit from using TK6000 is 12-24 months of service limited at 5000 minutes (go over and you've violated the ToS which means your service is cancelled forever, go buy another one) before their company share holder cash in their stocks and they file for bankruptcy.How do you do the voodoo that you do, so well?
Your ramblings have not illustrated anything nefarious.
These scary facts are silly. It's not unlike all the paranoia regarding MJ's language in their TOS allowing them to track the people you call, and allow targeted ads based on that data.
You make effective arguments such as "I think they are trying to monopolize the voip industry..." Ya think!? I'm pretty sure that's the goal of every voip company.
Their TOS gives you a clear monthly limit on their "unlimited" calls, which is 5000 minutes per month. Try getting a clear answer out of MJ. Ooma limits theirs to 3000 per month. Yes, NetTalk is downright diabolical. Dun dun DUNNN.
I'm no Tk fanboy. I don't even have one, yet. I love my MJ, and will probably even extend my service with the 5 year deal. That doesn't blind me to the potential benefits of the Tk6000.
-Direct router connection (that should stop those "incompetent [computer] users" dead in their tracks!)
-Currently offering "lifetime" service
-An actual customer service phone number
-Made in USA
I enjoy further discussion of the Tk6000, but I think the hysteria approach is over the top.
The only actual "potential benefit" that you say makes sense is using their dongle without a PC.
And I'm sure I would be calling a customer service phone number to bitch about their service to their reps, only to be put on hold. It's the internet age, who even calls customer service phone numbers anymore.
Yes I'm sure you're one of those people with the mentality of if it's "Made in the USA" then it must last.
MagicJack has its own way of doing business, sure you can get disconnects from their service from time to time but those are all done from an automated server to ensure that everybody can make calls equally. Not just that one person who sits on his ass all day and make phone calls for the hell of it, who probably paid $25 when MagicJack was on sale and then go to MagicJack forums and post about the TK6000.
If you think it's silly that you can't use the TK6000 in a business or call centers then you're probably a moron.
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??? What does one have to do with the other?? That's not even an argument. I hope this is not the best you can do. I've already called myself cheap in the thread you refer to. Now, I'm supposed to be offended when you call me cheap? You're really grasping at straws here, aren't you?MagicJackLover wrote:
Yes I'm sure you are one of those cheap people who are afraid to put down $69 for a 5 year plan. But you're willing to rant about TK6000's long ass ToS "gives you a clear monthly limit" of 5000 minutes.
Show us where Magic Jack clearly puts their limit on their website. You can't. Show us where Magic Jack puts a clear limit in their TOS. You can't. That doesn't stop MJ from cancelling people's service for "abuse" without explanation. At least NetTalk TELLS YOU THE LIMIT.MagicJackLover wrote:If it was clear it would be on their website instead of their ToS.
So, you're both clairvoyant enough to predict the financial failure of a company, and a legal expert enough to dictate, in absolutes, the exact course of action NetTalk will take if I go over the limit in any month. Deluded much? So far, between the two companies, only MJ has cancelled peoples' service for "abuse" without further explanation. Can you use your unholy powers to explain that?MagicJackLover wrote:Your only potential benefit from using TK6000 is 12-24 months of service limited at 5000 minutes (go over and you've violated the ToS which means your service is cancelled forever, go buy another one) before their company share holder cash in their stocks and they file for bankruptcy.
To clarify, with this statement you are admitting this superior ability exhibited by the Tk6000, and you are also saying that a potential for "lifetime" service, and real customer service, which I also mentioned, does not matter? This is great. Let's read on...MagicJackLover wrote: The only actual "potential benefit" that you say makes sense is using their dongle without a PC.
MagicJackLover wrote:And I'm sure I would be calling a customer service phone number to bitch about their service to their reps, only to be put on hold. It's the internet age, who even calls customer service phone numbers anymore.
Take a deep breath and focus for a second. Have you wondered why we are communicating on an UNOFFICIAL MJ support forum?? It's because MJ "support" is downright infamously bad! (That's redundant, but it's needed in this conversation.) This is your biggest laugh of the night, and you should've finished on a high note with it. Instead, you ruin the moment, by continuing to run your mouth. NetTalk has both an OFFICIAL forum, AND a phone number! With a straight face, you claim that MJ's insanity inducing chat-only support is superior???!
You are cordially invited to return to you senses, sir.
I must also point out the irony in your rant about the "internet age." If voice calling is so passé, then why do any of us need our Magic Jacks, anymore??!
I am of the mentality that engineering, manufacturing, and high skilled labor is important for the long term strength of a nation. I'm sure you do a great job collecting bottles and cans from the street, and spending your hard earned cash on foreign plastic at Walmart, but save for the environment, you're not helping.MagicJackLover wrote:Yes I'm sure you're one of those people with the mentality of if it's "Made in the USA" then it must last.![]()
So, you admit that MJ does arbitrarily drop calls, and limits their length. Why do you deny that they terminate people's service for "abuse" when they won't even define what the limit is? MJ is gutless, and so are you.MagicJackLover wrote:MagicJack has its own way of doing business, sure you can get disconnects from their service from time to time but those are all done from an automated server to ensure that everybody can make calls equally.
MagicJackLover wrote:Not just that one person who sits on his ass all day and make phone calls for the hell of it, who probably paid $25 when MagicJack was on sale and then go to MagicJack forums and post about the TK6000.
Are you still trying to disparage me, by calling me cheap? I've already taken that on as a badge of honor. I admit I'm cheap. Why won't you admit to being an obtuse MJ shill?
One who uses MJ's in the operation of a business, is cheap.MagicJackLover wrote: If you think it's silly that you can't use the TK6000 in a business or call centers then you're probably a moron.
Pot. Kettle. Boom!
If you think that most people care about not being able to use the TK6000 as a call center, when the product is explicitly not being marketed for that purpose, then go ahead and exhibit your wit by calling me a "moron."
I'm rubber, and you're sniffing glue.
Let me repeat myself. I love my MJ. It's a great product. However, I'm not stupid enough to believe that there can never be anything better. Acting like the shill you are, you jump on NetTalk for being a new company with a long way to go. Well, guess what, MJ was exactly the same way, not that long ago. MJ's biggest problem, is that they've stagnated, making them vulnerable in the big race to the finish. Read my words in other posts: MJ must change, to remain the same.
Shill on. Excellent.
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I use both the MJ and the TK6K and I ABSOLUTELY PREFER NetTalk's TK6000 OVER MAGICJACK!!! With the NetTalk TK6000 you can either plug it into a computer's USB (for portability) or plug it directly into a router (for operation without a PC or ThinClient). The $100 cost covers you for a lifetime, with no annual bills at all. Anyone want my MJ for dirt cheap? It has 4 years of time left on it and the # can still be changed for free. Just PM me.
(1) Has anyone tried the TK6000 for whole house use? Like with MJ, you could plug the TK6000 into the wall phone jack (making sure phone co. line is disconnected first). We know that with a 500mA USB a MJ can power up to about 4 phones. How many mA goes into a TK6000 (stepped down from a/c)?
(2) If I get rid of the MJ, I won't get to try all of the exciting plans for the MagicfeaturesPlugin. Many of these innovative features will utilize the computer hard disk and programs. I think TK6000, if you do run it through your computer, only does so to gain access to your network, and could not be made to interface with your hard drive or programs.
(3) Anyone here still having problems with occasional garbled voice on the TK6000?
(4) I'm sure Dan will soon come out with some upgrade for the MJ to compete with the TK6000, and will make it so that it will still have been worthwhile to have signed up for the 5 year extension. In this business, 5 years and unlimited mean the same thing (both companies will probably be obsolete or merged into other companies before 5 years from now).
(2) If I get rid of the MJ, I won't get to try all of the exciting plans for the MagicfeaturesPlugin. Many of these innovative features will utilize the computer hard disk and programs. I think TK6000, if you do run it through your computer, only does so to gain access to your network, and could not be made to interface with your hard drive or programs.
(3) Anyone here still having problems with occasional garbled voice on the TK6000?
(4) I'm sure Dan will soon come out with some upgrade for the MJ to compete with the TK6000, and will make it so that it will still have been worthwhile to have signed up for the 5 year extension. In this business, 5 years and unlimited mean the same thing (both companies will probably be obsolete or merged into other companies before 5 years from now).
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I haven't tried it, but I see no reason why it wouldn't work similarly to MJ in that capacity.dz20854 wrote:(1) Has anyone tried the TK6000 for whole house use? Like with MJ, you could plug the TK6000 into the wall phone jack (making sure phone co. line is disconnected first). We know that with a 500mA USB a MJ can power up to about 4 phones. How many mA goes into a TK6000 (stepped down from a/c)?).
Well, that kind of defeats the main convenience of the TK6K, which is eliminating the need for a computer. However, so far, your assumption is correct regarding passive use of the computer's network access when connected via USB. Pictured on the TK6K retail box is a softphone/video phone application "coming soon." I do not know any other details about it at this time.dz20854 wrote: (2) If I get rid of the MJ, I won't get to try all of the exciting plans for the MagicfeaturesPlugin. Many of these innovative features will utilize the computer hard disk and programs. I think TK6000, if you do run it through your computer, only does so to gain access to your network, and could not be made to interface with your hard drive or programs.)
From all accounts, it seems the garbled voice problem has been solved. Mine has remained clear ever since the fix was announced a couple weeks ago.dz20854 wrote: (3) Anyone here still having problems with occasional garbled voice on the TK6000?
I believe that would make you the only person who is "sure" about anything Dan is going to do. Especially with the word "soon" connected.dz20854 wrote: (4) I'm sure Dan will soon come out with some upgrade for the MJ to compete with the TK6000, and will make it so that it will still have been worthwhile to have signed up for the 5 year extension. In this business, 5 years and unlimited mean the same thing (both companies will probably be obsolete or merged into other companies before 5 years from now).
I agree with you about five years being a long time in technology/telecom years. However, I wouldn't count on Dan doing anything "honorable" when it comes to those who prepurchase 5 year plans. Personally, with the low price points of MJ, I can't imagine he'd want to undermine any potential revenue for a new product/service.
We'll see what happens.
Enjoys a daily VOIP cocktail made from:
-One shot Magic Jack
-One shot TK6000
-One shot NetTalk Duo
-Two shots Ooma (it's bigger)
Shaken, not stirred.
Google Voice is the chaser.
-One shot Magic Jack
-One shot TK6000
-One shot NetTalk Duo
-Two shots Ooma (it's bigger)
Shaken, not stirred.
Google Voice is the chaser.
This person has his TK6000 set up for whole house use, and his 5 phones operate with no problems: http://forum.nettalk.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=460
I'm still trying to find out if my Actiontec M1424WR router (that was for FIOS internet) will work with the TK6000.
Now if TK6000 could just solve the problem of having to dial a 1 before each number... imagine if a school had to reach a parent, and didn't realize that they needed to dial a 1 first.
I'm still trying to find out if my Actiontec M1424WR router (that was for FIOS internet) will work with the TK6000.
Now if TK6000 could just solve the problem of having to dial a 1 before each number... imagine if a school had to reach a parent, and didn't realize that they needed to dial a 1 first.
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I agree, that should be changed.dz20854 wrote:
Now if TK6000 could just solve the problem of having to dial a 1 before each number... imagine if a school had to reach a parent, and didn't realize that they needed to dial a 1 first.
If a school was using a TK6000, I would hope it would be part of the staff training for the dialing instructions.
For clarity, people dialing TO a TK6000 don't need to dial a 1 first, unless required as part of their company's phone dialing instructions.
(i.e. the TK number is long distance from their number, and a 1 is required by their phone company for dialing long distance)
Enjoys a daily VOIP cocktail made from:
-One shot Magic Jack
-One shot TK6000
-One shot NetTalk Duo
-Two shots Ooma (it's bigger)
Shaken, not stirred.
Google Voice is the chaser.
-One shot Magic Jack
-One shot TK6000
-One shot NetTalk Duo
-Two shots Ooma (it's bigger)
Shaken, not stirred.
Google Voice is the chaser.
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smaye wrote:The NT TK6K sounds like it answers the few problems I have had with MJ.
I am actually OK with a basic phone that will dial free to US and Canda, but I would like enhanced callerid (number AND name) and porting of my home phone number.
Can any of the actual TK6K owners comment on that?
As far as caller ID goes, I do receive the number using my TK6000. However, some other users report getting the number only. I'm thinking the company is still finalizing this feature, but I haven't heard anything official.
Porting: Officially, they state that they are actively preparing to offer this service, but it's not here, yet.
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Enjoys a daily VOIP cocktail made from:
-One shot Magic Jack
-One shot TK6000
-One shot NetTalk Duo
-Two shots Ooma (it's bigger)
Shaken, not stirred.
Google Voice is the chaser.
-One shot Magic Jack
-One shot TK6000
-One shot NetTalk Duo
-Two shots Ooma (it's bigger)
Shaken, not stirred.
Google Voice is the chaser.
I just saw this thread and hadn't heard of Net Talk or the TK before. Thanks for the info. I've bookmarked their forum and will follow it.
It's nice to have a competitor to MJ that looks like an apples to apples kind of thing for the most part. I have a computer that runs all day and night, so having a detachable dongle isn't a priority to me. I have no significant problems with my MJ and am in no particular hurry to replace it. That being said, it might be worth having a backup to the MJ other than our cells.
Only one question. Can you have the MJ and TK running on the same ISP concurrently? If so, that would be a great head to head test.
I saw something about a 30 day trial, so this might be worth considering.
I'll keep my eyes open for more info and reviews before I take the plunge, but $100.00 won't break the bank.
It's nice to have a competitor to MJ that looks like an apples to apples kind of thing for the most part. I have a computer that runs all day and night, so having a detachable dongle isn't a priority to me. I have no significant problems with my MJ and am in no particular hurry to replace it. That being said, it might be worth having a backup to the MJ other than our cells.
Only one question. Can you have the MJ and TK running on the same ISP concurrently? If so, that would be a great head to head test.
I saw something about a 30 day trial, so this might be worth considering.
I'll keep my eyes open for more info and reviews before I take the plunge, but $100.00 won't break the bank.
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I just started using both Skype and sipgate with the Skyjack and Xlitejack plugins for those times the MJ connection is sketchy. So far, I'm very pleased. Both let me spoof my outgoing number, although Skype requires this to be my cell phone; sipgate works with my GV CID as the outgoing number.That being said, it might be worth having a backup to the MJ other than our cells.
Although, not free, at .02/minute, it's a nice back up.
FWIW
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Llamaman wrote:I just saw this thread and hadn't heard of Net Talk or the TK before. Thanks for the info. I've bookmarked their forum and will follow it.
It's nice to have a competitor to MJ that looks like an apples to apples kind of thing for the most part. I have a computer that runs all day and night, so having a detachable dongle isn't a priority to me. I have no significant problems with my MJ and am in no particular hurry to replace it. That being said, it might be worth having a backup to the MJ other than our cells.
Only one question. Can you have the MJ and TK running on the same ISP concurrently? If so, that would be a great head to head test.
I saw something about a 30 day trial, so this might be worth considering.
I'll keep my eyes open for more info and reviews before I take the plunge, but $100.00 won't break the bank.
I have MJ, TK, and Ooma all running behind the same router with zero conflicts, even when using all three at the same time.
It is great alternative to MJ. Feel free to chime in at their forum for any questions!
Enjoys a daily VOIP cocktail made from:
-One shot Magic Jack
-One shot TK6000
-One shot NetTalk Duo
-Two shots Ooma (it's bigger)
Shaken, not stirred.
Google Voice is the chaser.
-One shot Magic Jack
-One shot TK6000
-One shot NetTalk Duo
-Two shots Ooma (it's bigger)
Shaken, not stirred.
Google Voice is the chaser.
That reminds me, Darkman. I need to reconnect my Skype stuff. A friend from Australia has been bugging me about that.
Thanks for the invite to the other side, Whiz. (LOL at your Imperial Margarine avatar! I didn't know they were still around. )
One more thing to like about the TK, if it's true. If it'll work for FAX and DISH, it might work for my home security alarm. I set it up to call my cell after I dropped my POTS, but it doesn't work 100% with the MJ. I wonder if anyone has tried it out. If not and if I do get one, I might be the guinea pig.
Thanks for the invite to the other side, Whiz. (LOL at your Imperial Margarine avatar! I didn't know they were still around. )
One more thing to like about the TK, if it's true. If it'll work for FAX and DISH, it might work for my home security alarm. I set it up to call my cell after I dropped my POTS, but it doesn't work 100% with the MJ. I wonder if anyone has tried it out. If not and if I do get one, I might be the guinea pig.
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Faxing with TK6K
I've seen other posts where TK6K owners have successfully used fax machines with their NetTalk devices and I wanted to add mine to those successes. If it weren't for the magicfeatures plugin AND the rumored femtojack promised by BIG DAN to be released.....er.....um......"soon"(yeah,right), I think I'd have already dropped my MJ in favor of my TK6K.
Yes. My TK6K is really working THAT good.
Yeah, I know it's only been a month I've had TK6K but so far, NO garbled voice, NO reset probs, BOTH name and number on Caller ID, works with whole house hook up and drives multiple phones with no hitches. Now, if they can just get rid of that pesky 1 at the front of dialing out, the damn thing would be as close to perfect as is possible.
We all know MJ doesn't play well with DirecTV and Dish Network receivers........I still need to prove to myself that my TK6K allows my DirecTV receiver to dial out for updates but after today's success with faxing, I'm bettin' there'll be no surprises.
I sure hope NetTalk keeps their web site professional like it currently is. If they add a cheesy video of a sweet little girl with a couple of puppies named "Net" and "Talk", I think I might have to look more at Ooma!!
Seriously, of the three, NetTalk seems to currently be the most cost efficient. Time and competition could always change that. Ya gotta love this ride as the action unfolds. SUCH fun to watch. AND to all you out there that may be suspicious of my affiliation, I assure you I have NO alligience to any one of the three systems talked about and compared here on this forum OR NT's forum. My alligience is to the almighty dollar and to good old American Competition and Capitalism.
Yes. My TK6K is really working THAT good.
Yeah, I know it's only been a month I've had TK6K but so far, NO garbled voice, NO reset probs, BOTH name and number on Caller ID, works with whole house hook up and drives multiple phones with no hitches. Now, if they can just get rid of that pesky 1 at the front of dialing out, the damn thing would be as close to perfect as is possible.
We all know MJ doesn't play well with DirecTV and Dish Network receivers........I still need to prove to myself that my TK6K allows my DirecTV receiver to dial out for updates but after today's success with faxing, I'm bettin' there'll be no surprises.
I sure hope NetTalk keeps their web site professional like it currently is. If they add a cheesy video of a sweet little girl with a couple of puppies named "Net" and "Talk", I think I might have to look more at Ooma!!
Seriously, of the three, NetTalk seems to currently be the most cost efficient. Time and competition could always change that. Ya gotta love this ride as the action unfolds. SUCH fun to watch. AND to all you out there that may be suspicious of my affiliation, I assure you I have NO alligience to any one of the three systems talked about and compared here on this forum OR NT's forum. My alligience is to the almighty dollar and to good old American Competition and Capitalism.
MJ user since Feb '10
MJ MagicFeatures user since Mar '10
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Dedicated MJ Thin Client: HP t5710 1.2GHz 1gF/512R, running MJ, MagicFeatures & TightVNC, 12-15 watts w/o monitor, roughly $1.25 per month electric cost
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NT TK6000 user since Apr '10
Dedicated MJ Thin Client: HP t5710 1.2GHz 1gF/512R, running MJ, MagicFeatures & TightVNC, 12-15 watts w/o monitor, roughly $1.25 per month electric cost
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It figures.......
Update to my previous post.....I brag a little and it bites me in the butt. I had to power cycle / reset my TK6K today....first time since I bought it.
I'm gonna go eat some crow now.......
I'm gonna go eat some crow now.......
MJ user since Feb '10
MJ MagicFeatures user since Mar '10
NT TK6000 user since Apr '10
Dedicated MJ Thin Client: HP t5710 1.2GHz 1gF/512R, running MJ, MagicFeatures & TightVNC, 12-15 watts w/o monitor, roughly $1.25 per month electric cost
MJ MagicFeatures user since Mar '10
NT TK6000 user since Apr '10
Dedicated MJ Thin Client: HP t5710 1.2GHz 1gF/512R, running MJ, MagicFeatures & TightVNC, 12-15 watts w/o monitor, roughly $1.25 per month electric cost
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Re: It figures.......
Ain't Murphy a P.I.T.A.V-Man wrote:Update to my previous post.....I brag a little and it bites me in the butt. I had to power cycle / reset my TK6K today....first time since I bought it.
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I'm gonna go eat some crow now.......
Joe Sica
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Murphy....
Yes indeed. That dude Murphy is alive and well and flourishing in every electronic device at my house.
Well, so it seems.....
Well, so it seems.....
MJ user since Feb '10
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NT TK6000 user since Apr '10
Dedicated MJ Thin Client: HP t5710 1.2GHz 1gF/512R, running MJ, MagicFeatures & TightVNC, 12-15 watts w/o monitor, roughly $1.25 per month electric cost
MJ MagicFeatures user since Mar '10
NT TK6000 user since Apr '10
Dedicated MJ Thin Client: HP t5710 1.2GHz 1gF/512R, running MJ, MagicFeatures & TightVNC, 12-15 watts w/o monitor, roughly $1.25 per month electric cost
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TK6000 dialing without the "1"
I got an email from the NetTalk Service Team today stating that dialing the "1" in front of the 10 digit phone number was no longer necessary for LOCAL calls as of June 1st. (It's still needed for long distance calls.) I tried it and sure enough, the call went through.
Ahhhhh. Competition is a wonderful thing.
Ahhhhh. Competition is a wonderful thing.
MJ user since Feb '10
MJ MagicFeatures user since Mar '10
NT TK6000 user since Apr '10
Dedicated MJ Thin Client: HP t5710 1.2GHz 1gF/512R, running MJ, MagicFeatures & TightVNC, 12-15 watts w/o monitor, roughly $1.25 per month electric cost
MJ MagicFeatures user since Mar '10
NT TK6000 user since Apr '10
Dedicated MJ Thin Client: HP t5710 1.2GHz 1gF/512R, running MJ, MagicFeatures & TightVNC, 12-15 watts w/o monitor, roughly $1.25 per month electric cost
Can you tell me how you fixed your MJ stuttering problem?onlyme wrote:I broke down and bought a TK, Its not bad but I get some minor stuttering from time to time. It's the same type of stuttering I got from MJ when I first got it. As it stands now I like my MJ better. That could change tho if TK can clean up the minor break-ups.
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ThisIsMyUserName
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I use both MagicJack and the NetTalk TK6000. One thing I noticed is that with NT/TK there was a recent upgrade so that you no longer have to dial "1". Also call clarity and dependability seems to have been much improved. One thing that NT has in common with MJ is the empty promise of local number portability (porting in).