NEW XPe configuration for HP T5720 w/magicJack

ITS · Post by **ITS** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 9:27 am

Soon to be released on eBay, a HP T5720 Thin Client, with a unique XPe configuration, that allows the LATEST version of magicJack software to be ALWAYS downloaded, & executed/run! NEVER worry about UPGRADES from the magicJack servers again! Why use old school XPe configurations that saves the magicJack software & upgrade software to your flash drive!
This new & unique configuration DOES NOT STORE the magicJack software or UPGRADE software to the flash drive, EVER!
The Xpe image & flash drive are still PROTECTED by the EWF!

Need more information? Post your question(s).

ITS

conniemadagain · Post by **conniemadagain** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 10:21 am

so your giving this away ....

just upload the file then ...

thanks for the contribution !!!

ITS · Post by **ITS** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 11:44 am

The new & unique Xpe config on a T5720 HP Thin Client will be for sale.
I guess I should have made that clear in the original post.

ITS

oldtimercurt · Post by **oldtimercurt** » Thu Sep 30, 2010 8:45 pm

Gee, I thought there was a for sale section in the forum.

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stevereno · Post by **stevereno** » Fri Oct 01, 2010 1:12 pm

He's just popping in a USB stick and re-mapping some folders to store the MJ software therein. Whoop-de-do.

ITS · Post by **ITS** » Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:20 pm

I see someone made an incorrect assumtion.

You know what they say when you make an assumption........

No USB stick..... no remapping of folders....

It was actually quite simple to setup.....surprised to see no one has done it before.

ITS

stevereno · Post by **stevereno** » Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:48 pm

Ok, I'll play along... so, if you're not storing it on the flash drive, you have to be storing it somewhere else, right?. You can't store it in RAM because it wouldn't hold after a power cycle. If not a USB stick, then has to be some other sort of added storage media like a Compact Flash card or SD chip.

ITS · Post by **ITS** » Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:58 pm

No other external storage device is used.
Sometimes you have to use what you have in front of you, and make the most of it.

stevereno · Post by **stevereno** » Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:39 pm

So, tell us about it. Or do you plan to keep it a secret? Why not share it with others on the forum? That's what this place is all about. Helping others. You'll gain credibility and be admired here for it if it really works.

oldtimercurt · Post by **oldtimercurt** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:45 pm

You missed the point. He wants to share it in exchange for sharing your $

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stevereno · Post by **stevereno** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:58 pm

Well, at this point I'll call it BS, because he claims to not ever store anything to the flash drive. Think about that for a minute... there's really only two accessible forms of memory in the TC's, flash and RAM. RAM is volatile and won't retain anything after being power cycled. So, what's left? BIOS memory? I highly doubt he's able to write and store much to that area - and, he claims he's not doing any remapping, so can't be writing to the MJ itself. Not using flash, not using RAM, not using any form of added memory stick, and no remapping. So, where's he writing to?

stevereno · Post by **stevereno** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 2:19 pm

The sellers on eBay that offer "Worry Free magicJack Updates" include the following in their listing info:

Worry FREE magicJack Updates! Using a Microdrive will eliminate the need for the Write Filter. Unlike the Flash Drive, you DO NOT have to manually save magicJack updates anymore because it will be saved automatically to the Microdrive for a totally worry free magicJack operation 24/7. Spinning Drive Yes but noise? NO Sir! Use a stethoscope just to hear it spinning!

So, this is how it's done. Adding another form of memory storage, a Microdrive. The OP is more than likely splitting hairs when he says "No other external storage device is used". Perhaps by installing the Microdrive internally, he feels able to make the claim about having nothing external.

ITS · Post by **ITS** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:01 pm

Let me make this clear.....I am using a stock HP T5720 w/512/MB ATA Flash drive & 512MB DDR RAM......NO other microdrives, No flash drives, etc, etc, is being used.......
Just because you can't understand it, doesn'n mean it can't be done.

Let me ask this..............
When you inserted your magicJack into your thin client for the first time, it checks to see if the magicJack software is saved to the drive( be it a hard drive, flashdrive, whatever...)if it doen't see it, it downloads the files...........ok...think real hard...........where does it store it temporarly? I don't mean save(writing to the whatever drive). Where is it stored?

The answer is quite simple...

stevereno · Post by **stevereno** » Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:06 pm

ok...think real hard...........where does it store it temporarly? I don't mean save(writing to the whatever drive). Where is it stored?

It's temporarily stored in RAM (i.e. the RAM Drive), but, that won't hold after a power cycle.

stevereno · Post by **stevereno** » Tue Oct 05, 2010 1:20 pm

I kind of thought he wouldn't reply...

roc1479 · Post by **roc1479** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 1:55 pm

He's probably using ewf overlays to accomplish this.

stevereno · Post by **stevereno** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 2:36 pm

roc1479 wrote:He's probably using ewf overlays to accomplish this.

He says he's never writing to the flash, so he has to be simply increasing the size of the RAM Drive and letting magicJack install therein - which means magicJack would install itself as a brand new installation everytime the thin client is booted.

gcadman · Post by **gcadman** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 6:07 pm

Why would it install on the Ram drive instead of the C drive ?
Or is the ram drive the c drive and it will erase after reboot then reload from scratch?

Thanks

stevereno · Post by **stevereno** » Wed Oct 06, 2010 7:16 pm

Using overlays, as poster roc1479 suggested.

EWF Overlay: EWF protects the contents of a volume by redirecting all write operations to another storage location. This location is called an overlay. An EWF overlay can be in RAM, or on another disk partition.

More info from Microsoft about overlays and EWF here: http://tinyurl.com/27jvsqw

stevereno · Post by **stevereno** » Sun Oct 10, 2010 4:42 pm

Wow. Looks like we lost a few days of replies here. Posts from Oct 7, 8, and 9 are gone.

gcadman · Post by **gcadman** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:14 pm

Wow, I was wondering why nobody replied lol

gcadman · Post by **gcadman** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:17 pm

Should we try to figure this out, Will it help the majority of T/C users ?

I just increased my ramdrive a bit to help with the larger size of the new versions, but it is still loaded on my drive. all is well on mine (for now).

Gary

slceso · Post by **slceso** » Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:26 pm

Wow. Looks like we lost a few days of replies here. Posts from Oct 7, 8, and 9 are gone.

I think the board went down hard sat/sun, and probably lost some posts cause some of mine are gone.

I have thought about using one of the dual CF/ IDE setups (like the one in my alpman t5520) with a CF on one and MD on the other and trying some remapping, but it becomes cost prohibitive quickly. I like the flexibility that the MD offers, but not the failure rate. I thought about just putting a CF in there and seing how long it takes it to fail. If it would last a year I would probably consider it.