Rotating password again

sabresfan · Post by **sabresfan** » Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:14 pm

My mj just lost registration and I've checked with 3 different dumps and the password changes each time again.

VaHam · Post by **VaHam** » Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:17 pm

I concur

dbean · Post by **dbean** » Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:18 pm

same here; can't get new one to register either

just changed on Friday, now again on sunday...bummer

VaHam · Post by **VaHam** » Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:20 pm

Have to go back to using thinclient to provide FXO to * but the quality suffers.

sabresfan · Post by **sabresfan** » Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:26 pm

Guess Dan and company were testing awhile ago and may have worked the bugs out. I'm glad I have a TK6000 and a sipsorcery account to use with Gizmo5 and GV to fall back on. Not that I would mind using the dongle again but once you experience a service with the clarity that MJ has using an ata( come on Dan wake up some of us would pay for a premium account) it's difficult to want to use it again and dealing with the mess that MJ creates on it's own.

xguju · Post by **xguju** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:03 am

Rotating passwords look like they are back, any hope to get ATA back running or should I just sign up for another service plan?

Scrote · Post by **Scrote** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:08 am

Same here PW change each time cannot get ATA to register. Oh well it time to look for other option for phone service this is my last year with MJ then.

andyha · Post by **andyha** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:34 am

I've been running MJ through my router using MJMD5 for the last 18 months or so. Wouldn't register last Friday, I plugged in the dongle and checked tha password, it had changed although my userid stayed the same. I plugged that password in and all was good until today. I plugged in the dongle once again...4 times, and each time got a different password. Looks like we are hooped...I hope I am wrong because lord knows there are a lot of way smart people in here who will probably figure out a work around of something, at least that's what I am hoping!

rameshb_v · Post by **rameshb_v** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:01 am

andyha wrote:I've been running MJ through my router using MJMD5 for the last 18 months or so. Wouldn't register last Friday, I plugged in the dongle and checked tha password, it had changed although my userid stayed the same. I plugged that password in and all was good until today. I plugged in the dongle once again...4 times, and each time got a different password. Looks like we are hooped...I hope I am wrong because lord knows there are a lot of way smart people in here who will probably figure out a work around of something, at least that's what I am hoping!

Same here.... ATA not able to register even with new password...

Toink · Post by **Toink** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:31 am

I've had enough of MJ. I'm moving on. Two years of putting up with MJ is more than enough! You can go shove it, Dan!

topflight05 · Post by **topflight05** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:01 am

Toink wrote:I've had enough of MJ. I'm moving on. Two years of putting up with MJ is more than enough! You can go shove it, Dan!

Me too (password is rotating now and had enough of magic jack). MJ dongle = inaudible conversations. MJ + ATA = telephone quality. Can anyone recommend an alternative, I really like my ATA. Or should I go to OOMA? I renewed for $55 a year ago for 5 years, but oh well. A normal home phone plan costs $120+ a year, so it's not like I lost money.

JOFTAA · Post by **JOFTAA** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:15 am

Maybe this explains why my MJ quit sometime during the night and I cannot get it going again.

I just retrieved my password and it has changed since Friday. That is two changes in three days. I guess it is time to find another way to call 800 numbers.

The password I retrieved did not work, so I checked again. My password changed again.

So, yes, the password is changing with each login as far as I can tell. Unless it is changing more often than that?

Oh, well! Thanks for nothing, Dan.

Now I have a question for the brains of this outfit: What did you do the last time there was a rotating password? Is this game over? Or, is there someone who is going to figure out how to get the new password and use it for each call?

sabresfan wrote:Guess Dan and company were testing awhile ago and may have worked the bugs out. I'm glad I have a TK6000 and a sipsorcery account to use with Gizmo5 and GV to fall back on. Not that I would mind using the dongle again but once you experience a service with the clarity that MJ has using an ata( come on Dan wake up some of us would pay for a premium account) it's difficult to want to use it again and dealing with the mess that MJ creates on it's own.

I have seen the TK6000. It looks like it would serve my purposes. The main reason for me to use the Magicjack was not to make calls, but rather to receive calls. I am in Europe and want my friends and family back in The U.S. to be able to call me without having to pay for long distance.

What are the advantages to sipsorcery and Gizmo5? I have GV, but that won't help me unless I have a U.S. number to forward to in Germany. Since I had MJ, there was no need to GV being used.

I am looking for a solution that will allow me to have a U.S. number in Germany without having to use a computer. I want to be able to plug my cordless phone base into a device and make/receive calls.

TK6000 seems very expensive at $100. Although, since there are no additional yearly fees like with MJ, it may be worth the price over the years. But, in order for this to be true, the company behind the device has to stay in business, otherwise it is just another doorstop.

Ideas, please? Thank you.

The Irony!

I cannot call tollfree 800 numbers from Germany. I had to use my Magicjack to call to order my TK6000/Duo. I used MJ in order to dump MJ. LMAO!

topflight05 · Post by **topflight05** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:23 am

JOFTAA wrote:Maybe this explains why my MJ quit sometime during the night and I cannot get it going again.

I just retrieved my password and it has changed since Friday. That is two changes in three days. I guess it is time to find another way to call 800 numbers.

The password I retrieved did not work, so I checked again. My password changed again.

So, yes, the password is changing with each login as far as I can tell. Unless it is changing more often than that?

Oh, well! Thanks for nothing, Dan.

Now I have a question for the brains of this outfit: What did you do the last time there was a rotating password? Is this game over? Or, is there someone who is going to figure out how to get the new password and use it for each call?

sabresfan wrote:Guess Dan and company were testing awhile ago and may have worked the bugs out. I'm glad I have a TK6000 and a sipsorcery account to use with Gizmo5 and GV to fall back on. Not that I would mind using the dongle again but once you experience a service with the clarity that MJ has using an ata( come on Dan wake up some of us would pay for a premium account) it's difficult to want to use it again and dealing with the mess that MJ creates on it's own.
I have seen the TK6000. It looks like it would serve my purposes. The main reason for me to use the Magicjack was not to make calls, but rather to receive calls. I am in Europe and want my friends and family back in The U.S. to be able to call me without having to pay for long distance.

What are the advantages to sipsorcery and Gizmo5? I have GV, but that won't help me unless I have a U.S. number to forward to in Germany. Since I had MJ, there was no need to GV being used.

I am looking for a solution that will allow me to have a U.S. number in Germany without having to use a computer. I want to be able to plug my cordless phone base into a device and make/receive calls.

TK6000 seems very expensive at $100. Although, since there are no additional yearly fees like with MJ, it may be worth the price over the years. But, in order for this to be true, the company behind the device has to stay in business, otherwise it is just another doorstop.

Ideas, please? Thank you.

The Irony!

I cannot call tollfree 800 numbers from Germany. I had to use my Magicjack to call to order my TK6000/Duo. I used MJ in order to dump MJ. LMAO!

I set up MJ to forward to Sipgate for the time being (that way people can still call my main phone number). I then setup GV to link to Sipgate (this is for outbound calls). I then setup Sipsorcery to allow ATA to connect to Sipgate. Whenever Sipgate receives a call, it forwards to Sipsorcery which forwards to the ATA.

Incoming: MJ number -> Sipgate -> Sipsorcery -> ATA
Outgoing: number -> ATA -> Sipsorcery -> GV

genxweb · Post by **genxweb** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 6:59 am

I concur I had a client that updated Saturday and it is rotating.

Also looks like mine is down again as well

sabresfan · Post by **sabresfan** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:56 am

For those wanting an alternative to using MJ with the dongle for now and don't have an sipsorcery account I would recommend sipgate as a paid alternative and whistlephone as a free alternative. For a longer term option I would recommend Nettalk their service is better than it was last year at this time and the Duo seems to be a good product.

dbean · Post by **dbean** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:44 am

can't reg. w/ new pw; back to dongle until sub expires, then onto dif. solution.

JOFTAA · Post by **JOFTAA** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:51 am

sabresfan wrote:For those wanting an alternative to using MJ with the dongle for now and don't have an sipsorcery account I would recommend sipgate as a paid alternative and whistlephone as a free alternative. For a longer term option I would recommend Nettalk their service is better than it was last year at this time and the Duo seems to be a good product.

I am going to go with the Duo. Seems to be the simplest option, although a lot more expensive than Magicjack.

Is there a fix for rotating passwords? Or, is this end game?

Nobody beats the Whiz! · Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:59 am

It's not too much more expensive, if you use their 25% off internet coupon: NTLK25OFF

xguju · Post by **xguju** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:13 am

Thanks for the coupon, also may be a dumb question to ask but does NetTalk have similar quality to MagicJack + ATA, and does it have the ability to use its SIP info on an ATA? I understand I don't need to use my computer, but sometimes it is nice to have just one device running because my ATA has two lines and I would like it to use both.

propizza · Post by **propizza** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:36 am

Game over, forwarding to sipgate till expires, then will go to a duo

genxweb · Post by **genxweb** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:42 am

has any one looked at pulling the sip credentials off a duo? Or are you all looking at just plugging it into the ata or a pc?

When will MJ just offer a open sip where they charge us additional 10 dollars a year. I would be willing to pay 40 a year total even for us and canada and not worry about constantly changing passwords and let us bring our own devices at our own risk.

arcadia2uk · Post by **arcadia2uk** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:45 am

The Duo's credentials are easily found by wireshark. Until they change method...

JOFTAA · Post by **JOFTAA** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:12 pm

Nobody beats the Whiz! wrote:It's not too much more expensive, if you use their 25% off internet coupon: NTLK25OFF

Thank you for that! I am glad I had not ordered yet.

I just went to their website and there is no place for a coupon code. I called customer service and was told that if you don't go to their site via an email offer, you cannot get the discount.

Has anyone here tried to place an order using the discount code by going directly to the site?

Why would it be necessary to get credentials off of the Duo? Since it plugs directly into the router, it is essentially working the way my MJ did with the ATA. Only no extra device required.

Nobody beats the Whiz! · Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:14 pm

JOFTAA wrote:
Nobody beats the Whiz! wrote:It's not too much more expensive, if you use their 25% off internet coupon: NTLK25OFF
Thank you for that! I am glad I had not ordered yet.

No problem, just sharing the info.

I have no idea how long that code will continue to work.

This code only seems to work at www.nettalk.com, not any of their other sites.

JOFTAA · Post by **JOFTAA** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 2:35 pm

Nobody beats the Whiz! wrote:......

This code only seems to work at www.nettalk.com, not any of their other sites.

Good catch!

angel-78 · Post by **angel-78** » Mon Oct 25, 2010 3:32 pm

Thanks for the 25% of coupon. I have been looking at the duo for while. I almost posted it last night. I have had my mj for 3 or 4 years I have used an ata pretty much the whole time, because the quality sucks through the dongle. I have always recommended mj to friends, but not any more. Will wait and see how well the duo I just ordered works.

jeffnyc · Post by **jeffnyc** » Mon Nov 01, 2010 8:10 pm

propizza wrote:Game over, forwarding to sipgate till expires, then will go to a duo

damn - did the 5 year plan - mine doesnt expire til summer 2014

plut0 · Post by **plut0** » Mon Nov 01, 2010 9:11 pm

I just looked at a wireshark dump...lots of data going back and forth. I'm guessing the password retrieval is part of the https traffic which will be much more difficult to debug.